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Published: 2015-06-28 00:46:35 +0000 UTC; Views: 1394; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 0
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If a written law is not also a moral law, then to Hell with it! Because it most likely exists only to oppress, or to grant avenue for oppressors to oppress.People really need to wake up and come to grips with the reality that many of the written laws on the books are written for the benefit of the corporations and the social/financial elite. They are not written with the interest of the common wealth or moral responsibility in mind, and those laws that are often are undermined by other laws designed to shear the rights of the individual for the benefit of those corporate/political entities who's sole concerns reside with themselves and no one else.
Throughout the course of history many laws have been passed that were morally-bankrupt and existed for the sole purpose of control and to silence opposition against the ruling elite. Now is no different as there are still laws in existence that are flawed in nature and are misused by those with decadent virtue to further their own agenda (like the Espionage Act and NDAA, for example). Just because something is supposedly the "law" does not make it right, and if a law is not morally right then it is a law that must be defied.
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Laws do not protect you, it is common sense that does. Law if a failure at common sense.
So every law is proof, we are so dumb, we cannot ourselves distinguish between, what we should do and what we should not and how we would like to be treated by others.
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We have all known what the moral basis of the law is since Moses came down from the mountain. Jesus simplified the moral basis further by stating the Golden Rule. Applying that moral basis on a fair and common basis through the criminal and civil courts would be what most people would call justice. Since the people of this world are likely to fall into sin, we get laws and legal rulings that are not moral in the sense of justice...but they sure are legal! 
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Woop woop woop woop!
By making this picture you are in direct violation of law #5897201, sub section J, paragraph green, attachment 2. Go report to the prison for your necessary hand slapping.
Kidding.
But the sad truth of the matter is, that since everyone's sense of morals is a little bit different, we all need some amount of law to keep things together. That, and someone needs to ride people's asses into acting decent. Take Alaska. Fur trappers there hunted all the animals there into near extinction, something that definately would've harmed all people living there. The fur trappers were not moral enough to make themselves stop, so laws were needed to make them stop. Or how about the first 300 american troops stationed there to bring some sembelance of law and order? They weren't given any specific tasks or orders, so they quickly devolved into bullies with guns.
Even Native Americans, Africans and Nomadic Asian tribemen needed some structure where some people told the group how to act and what to do.
Really, I wish I could believe that humans could magically be nice and awesome to each other without laws or government, but I haven't seen that happen
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Never have I stated that laws are not necessary, but it is worth remembering that not all laws are written and passed with everyone's best interests at heart...usually they are passed with the interests of someone's wallet in mind. That is why I say that all laws must be fueled by morality, and by morality I refer to honesty, common sense, responsibility, and fairness.
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Right, okay.
I can agree with "legal-laws are not always good"
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There are 4 universal laws of human civilization as far as I can see.
1: Don't hit people. (Don't hit them with fists, bullets, knives, chemicals, radiation, etc.)
2: Don't steal. (Lying is a form of fraud, fraud is theft, liberty can be stolen, etc.)
3: Don't force people to live your way. (Most people fail at this.)
4: Make those who do, stop. (If a stern talking to works, awesome, if only a bullet to the head will accomplish this, pull the trigger.)
The first three will keep you out of trouble 99% of the time.
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Strictly speaking, telling people to not hit or steal counts as "forcing people to live your way". and this is exactly what I have trouble with: Freedom means without limitation, Freedom does not entail anyone's rights, and that is exactly why humans can never truly be free. That, and all the baggage that comes with plain and simple mortality.
Also, how does one determine if "only a bullet to the head will make somebody stop doing something you don't like"? Sounds like a classic gateway reason for any murderer to me. Ohh, Mr. McKenze from next door wouldn't turn his music down, in spite of my explaining I needed to sleep to perform my job and contribution to society competantly, so I had to put a bullet in his head.
Oooh oooh, and how about blackmail reltaed activities? You didn't list that as a form of theft. And is ALL lying a form of theft? Mila Kunis lied about her age when she started on That 70's Show, does that mean she stole from the show? How about peter Lorre lying about how fluent he was in English early on in his career? What if I'm a Hateheist who considers all religion as a form of lying? Should I burn down churches and mosques to stop the from lying to people?
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To be honest, moral judgements are oftentimes load of crap too (say honour killings).
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I don't consider "honor killings" to be moral in any sense. That's more the byproduct of self-righteousness, not morality. Morality is equal parts common sense, honesty, responsibility, and fairness.
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People doing them would disagree
Also common sense, responsibility, and fairness seem to be rather subjective (just go to any political discussion for ample examples).
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What do you think of the McCain-Feingold Act? That law seemed a little unfair.
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you sound like the people who protest to bring sharia law "no more man made laws..only god made laws"
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There are no "god-made" laws. There are only man-made laws that simple-minded people are duped into thinking are ordained by some deity.
God ain't got shit to do with morality. Honesty, common sense, reason, integrity, benevolence...if the laws are not written on the principles of these virtues then they are not good laws! Period!
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Happy to see that this is something we can both agree on.
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