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I'm so fed up with all the complaints about what I consider the greatest Superman movie ever. And here's why:"It's too dark for Superman"
No, it's to dark for Richard Donner-style Superman. First of all, it's not darker. It's more serious. And yes, there IS a difference! Second, I'd ask if any of you have ever even picked up a comic, but I already know that Supes is a classic cast of what tvtropes.org calls "Complaining about Shows You Don't Watch". In other words, I can think of dozens of stories off the top of my head that are just as dark: "The Death of Superman", "Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow", "Kingdom Come", "Red Son", the list goes on!
"Too much destruction"
Yeah, because "The Avengers" and the Transformers movies were so mild-mannered. Or that last Star Trek movie, where a giant fucking starship crashed into San Francisco, about 2x the damage from MoS. If anything, the Avengers are even more responsible for any collateral damage: they were fighting a bunch of "go down in one hit" kind of mooks. Superman was fighting guys with the same powers, plus military training. Plus, HEL-LOOOOOOOOOOO! Ever wonder if 90% of the people evacuated when they saw a giant fucking alien laser drill hovering over them!?
(Spoiler alert) "Superman killed Zod"
I know, right? How he mercilessly crushed his hand, then throws him into a chasm and shares a moment with Lois (who also had just killed someone) like nothi-...Oh, wait, that's "Superman II", the time nobody ever gave him crap about. This is the time where he was...well, it already says so right up there. There's a difference between killing to save lives and cold-blooded murder. Not only did Bats kill Rā's al Ghūl, he also tied a gargoyle to the Joker's leg and made him fall about 800 feet or so, and then there's how he shoved Harvey Dent off a building - hell that last one was literally the exact same situation that Superman was in!
EDIT: Not to mention when Iron Man killed a whole room full of thugs just because one of them broke a motherfucking Dora the Explorer watch. He literally told him he would be the first to die.
I know nobody likes Superman anymore, but give him a freaking chance! At least it's not "Superman Returns" (the one movie I hate more than that is "Iron Man 3").
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Comments: 417
DeathForDisco In reply to ??? [2013-12-28 00:00:52 +0000 UTC]
I still don't see how they could do an Antman movie without Pym.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2013-12-28 23:26:48 +0000 UTC]
They're already doing Ultron without him. These guys will go to incredible lengths to keep Pym out.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2013-12-28 23:28:21 +0000 UTC]
Ultron?? Avengers sequel?
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2013-12-31 06:10:13 +0000 UTC]
It's called "Avengers: Age of Ultron", so, yeah.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-01 02:35:26 +0000 UTC]
Gotcha. Well I heard that Antman is supposed to be the start of a new set of Marvel movies so we'll just have to see how that all plays out.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-01 08:32:51 +0000 UTC]
True. So far the only other one we know is in that set is Doctor Strange.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-01 17:39:13 +0000 UTC]
I didn't hear about Doctor Strange. I'll have to go look up info on that.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-02 04:03:21 +0000 UTC]
gotcha. explains why i couldn't really find much.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-03 23:21:13 +0000 UTC]
Well I read on wikipedia that the Antman movie is supposed to have Pym and Lang. All I found on Doctor Strange is that a movie is in development.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-05 00:15:56 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. I just hope that damn "Pym as retired 60s hero and Lang succeeding him today" rumor isn't true.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-05 03:58:06 +0000 UTC]
I hope they somehow make it so both of them are Antman or something like that.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-05 05:15:28 +0000 UTC]
I just hope Pym is the Ant-Man to join the Avengers
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-05 05:21:17 +0000 UTC]
If that happens, because I don't see them actually putting Antman in any of the Avengers movies.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-05 05:28:37 +0000 UTC]
Me either, but hey, I can dream
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-05 17:05:48 +0000 UTC]
We all can. I mean, wasn't Antman one of the original Avengers in the comics anyways?
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-06 03:11:44 +0000 UTC]
Yes, not to mention that the Avengers themselves was his freaking idea.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-06 05:04:58 +0000 UTC]
Right. So it kind of pissed me off when the first movie was announced and they were like "hey, no antman."
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-08 02:26:14 +0000 UTC]
The only thing I can imagine is the 3rd Avenger movie adding in Antman and Wasp.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-09 22:35:52 +0000 UTC]
Better than them never joining, I guess
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-09 23:06:54 +0000 UTC]
That's true. I still wish they would have done "backstory" movies or at least one movie for Black Widow and Hawkeye.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-09 23:19:54 +0000 UTC]
Well, Widow will be prominent in the next Captain America movie, and Hawkeye is getting a bigger role in Avengers 2. So we'll just have to see if their backstories are expanded on.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-09 23:32:04 +0000 UTC]
Bigger role in A2??? How so?
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-10 19:12:57 +0000 UTC]
Then what makes you say that he will???
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-11 00:00:51 +0000 UTC]
Because I heard Whedon say it, just like the other stuff.
...But, when you think about it, he also said Coulson wouldn't die in the first one...
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-11 01:34:53 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. Never take what he says at face value.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-11 19:58:57 +0000 UTC]
True. Come to think of it, I don't remember if he specifically said Pym wouldn't create Ultron, or just not be in the film. So, there's hope.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-12 05:45:11 +0000 UTC]
We'll just have to wait and see.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-12 19:49:39 +0000 UTC]
But I don't wanna wait.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-14 06:44:35 +0000 UTC]
Would you rather wait for the Deadpool movie, because that's taking even longer.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-14 21:02:47 +0000 UTC]
Don't even get me started on that.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-14 21:20:58 +0000 UTC]
I know, right?
Actually, I'm kinda hoping we see him on "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." Crazy, I know.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-14 21:26:07 +0000 UTC]
That would be awesome. Especially with the comic with Coulson. lol.
So...Quciksilver is in Days of Future Past as well as Age of Ultron, both marvel movies, thought they were in the same world, and yet he's being played by two different people in each movie.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-15 13:26:56 +0000 UTC]
Coulson: Why are you helping us?
Deadpool: I'm looking for redemption.
Coulson: From your past as a mercenary?
Deadpool: No, from my last live-action appearance. DAMN YOU GAVIN HOOD, DIRECTOR OF A MOVIE I CAN'T SAY THE NAME OF BECAUSE IT INCLUDES NAMES THAT VIOLATE THE LICENSING ISSUES OF THIS SHOW WHICH ALSO PREVENT THE TWINS FROM THE UPCOMING AVENGERS MOVIE FROM BEING CALLED THE M-WORD AND FANBOYS FROM SEEING YOU-KNOW-WHO FIGHT THE HULK LIKE IN HIS FIRST APPEARANCE BUT THE STORY HAS NEVER BEEN SUCCESSFULLY DUPLICATED WITHOUT SUCKING EVEN IF ONE OF THEM DID GIVE ME MY FIRST NON-CAMEO ANIMATED APPEARANCE!!!
What I'd like to know is how they would translate the yellow and white text boxes to live-action.
I'm pretty sure X-Men and Avengers movies are in separate universes. I think it's better that way. But otherwise is confirmed, I'm assuming a version of the X-Men does exist in the MCU.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-16 02:10:58 +0000 UTC]
Lol at the Deadpool rant. And yes, how would those translate.
They probably are separate, because on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. they keep saying that telepaths don't exist and stuff like that.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-17 01:55:04 +0000 UTC]
Maybe as captions on the screen. Or monologue.
I highly doubt they actually don't exist in that show, considering there are clearance levels higher than any of Coulson's team have.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-17 01:56:12 +0000 UTC]
I know. They just keep saying it in the show.
So...Antman. Pym is going to be in it as an old man and Paul Rudd is playing Scott AS Antman.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-17 05:00:55 +0000 UTC]
Law of inverse television belief: the more the characters talk about how something can't be true, the more likely it is, and vice-versa.
Yeah, that's what I was afraid of. Why Marvel doesn't think Pym is capable of carrying the weight of his own damn movie on his shoulders it beyond me. I think if they just read "Ant-Man: Season One" and made that in to a movie, it'd be much better.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-17 07:15:12 +0000 UTC]
I know. I keep waiting for the moment when they run into a telepath. It's gonna be funny.
I've never read any of the Antman comics but I completely agree with you. Pym could easily carry the name AND the movie. They don't need Scott.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-18 18:51:20 +0000 UTC]
I would love to see somebody like Professor X (though likely someone else, due to aforementioned licensing) start messing with them.
I actually think Scott could be Pym's lab assistant who tells him that he could be a superhero. (It wouldn't seem redundant since Hulk movies have a Rick Jones allergy somehow) If not him then maybe Bill Foster, like in the "season one" comic.
Another great thing about the "season one" comic is that it gives Pym a personality beyond guilt over the certain thing nobody lets him live down.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-18 23:38:43 +0000 UTC]
Well, apparently the clairvoyant is supposed to be a telepath so we just have to wait and see who the clairvoyant is and if he/she actually is a telepath.
I just wanna see Pym in the lead role, not as a supporting role. Apparently they're sticking with the whole "scott stole his suit" plot. rick jones allergy???
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-19 01:54:55 +0000 UTC]
True. He could also be the Leader, which fits.
Me too.
Because he's never in any Hulk movie, despite being essential to the origin.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-19 02:59:47 +0000 UTC]
Leader???
And oh. ok. I forgot about that.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-19 06:17:48 +0000 UTC]
Well they have to do SOMETHING with him! The last Hulk movie was 6 years ago, when he was foreshadowed, and we haven't seen him since.
Yeah. Too bad that.
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DeathForDisco In reply to ImdaBatman [2014-01-19 06:53:48 +0000 UTC]
foreshadowed? how so? did i miss something?
yuppers. too bad that.
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ImdaBatman In reply to DeathForDisco [2014-01-19 23:01:54 +0000 UTC]
When Abomination knocked Dr. Samuel Sterns against the wall, then some gamma blood fell on his head and it started to get bigger.
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