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So there I was, minding my own business, trying to hold to the pledge to keep political discourse to a minimum for a while, when out of the blue I receive a comment from a woman who was, um… unhappy is how I’ll put it. She was unhappy, and being… oh, how shall I put this… difficult. Yes, that is the most polite way to say it; she was being a difficult woman, who was unhappy at me. She was unhappy and felt the need to be difficult because of comments I made two months ago on someone else’s page, where I showed my support for the page owner’s posting of a pro-Christmas picture. A pro-Christmas picture in December, it seems, made this difficult woman unhappy, and she felt the need to let me know about it. While doing so she did what liberals usually do, which is to assume they know Christianity better than Christians do, accuse me of having the negative qualities that she herself was displaying, deny that America was founded on Christian principles, etc. There was nothing new in her outrage that my support of Christmas caused in her, and I considered showing her comment the attention it deserved by not responding, but one particular word she used got me thinking…Theist. Why is it, I wondered, that she was using that term while discussing a Christian holiday, on a posting made by a Christian, and while talking to a Christian? Seems that an awful lot of people who become outraged by things like Christmas, the Ten Commandments, the Pledge of Allegiance, roadside crosses to mark fatal crash sites, and so on, rant about theists. Why do they do that, when they are clearly angered at displays of Christianity? Why not just come out and say they hate the religion that has sparked their outrage and disgust? Why not have the guts to just come out and say it? When I’m talking about 9/11, I don’t blame “theists” for the terrorist attack, after all.
It is also worth noting that when called on it, these people will say that they hate all people of faith (and state it like they deserve a medal for doing so). Really? That is not, in my experience, the case. “Theist” haters will come up with pictures of lions eating Christians and say they are funny, but where are the “funny” pictures of Jews being gassed and thrown into Nazi ovens, or Buddhist monks on fire? They’ll draw every blasphemous depiction of Christ they can imagine, but where are the allegedly humorous cartoons of Anne Frank being murdered, or Muslim women being stoned to death, or Tibetan Buddhist nuns being raped? If they actually do hate all theists, then shouldn’t these things be just as amusing to them as the crucifixion of Jesus?
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Comments: 865
Daebelly In reply to ??? [2016-01-01 23:09:22 +0000 UTC]
Which people? Extremists? If so, you're right there. Though, I think you're generalizing the theist group. Good job, you've officially proven that you have too many logical fallacies to properly argue with you. It all goes in one ear and out the other, doesn't it? Honestly, I'm amused by all this. Amused that you're typing like a 4th grader whilst seemingly lying about your age. Don't bother replying unless you can prove your alleged age and justify that argument you just made.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-01 23:14:08 +0000 UTC]
no , not just extremists , atheists in general , people automatically assume that atheists are bad JUST because they don't believe in a god , and i'm not lying about my age , i really am 18
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:17:54 +0000 UTC]
I'd like you to provide proof of your arguments. Just for you, I'll put it in a worksheet format that one such as you could understand.
1) Why do you assume that everyone hates Atheists?
2) Provide proof of your age.
Ever hear of Socrates?
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-01 23:22:54 +0000 UTC]
1. i've seen it
2. i don't need to
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:29:15 +0000 UTC]
So, you've seen EVERYONE hate Atheists. Wow. Way to play the idiotic victim. If that's your goal, good job.
And yes, if you want me to believe that you're really 18, you need to provide proof.
Socrates, a Greek Philosopher, played the role of a Devil's Advocate, in which he would take the opposite standpoint of the person he talked to, forcing them to prove their point. If you can't defend your opinion, it's worth nothing. Try defending your opinion rather than use the failing elementary logic you have displayed thus far.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-01 23:41:48 +0000 UTC]
1. i'm not the idiot
2. no i don't
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:44:25 +0000 UTC]
Right, then. You claim to not be an idiot. I suppose you're okay with having a worthless opinion, since you can't prove it.
And I don't expect that you will prove it; But if you don't, I'll have to report you to the DA staff because you're clearly underaged, or at least have the mind of a student in primary school.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-01 23:50:09 +0000 UTC]
it's not worthless
i am not underage , i am 18 years old , age does not matter
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:53:50 +0000 UTC]
If it's not worthless, then defend your view rather than letting it be knocked around like a football.
And yes, age DOES matter. Give this a read. www.coppa.org/coppa.htm
Now, you have two responses left to prove your age before I report you for being underage, or at least put forth an effort.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:00:08 +0000 UTC]
you obviously know nothing about modern society
don't bring irrelevant things to this
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:04:18 +0000 UTC]
It's perfectly relevant; That's the COPPA bill I was talking about. And if I know nothing about modern society, then you somehow have managed to know less. I have several Atheistic friends, and do I hate them for that? Nope. That alone disproves your argument there, validating mine.
Here, I'll make this easy for you to prove your age.
Define Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis, and tell me the title of your research paper from high school. If you can do both of those, I'll drop the underaged bit of the argument posthaste.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:06:05 +0000 UTC]
i know WAY more about modern society than you ever will , this bill has absolutely nothing to do with age , atheists are among the most hated groups of people
ya know what , forget you
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:09:33 +0000 UTC]
Go on, try to prove your logic isn't a complete and total fallacy(Right, you seem to have given that up from that message). You provide no proof for your arguments other than an easily disproved "eyewitness" account, thus proving your point to be completely worthless. You also refuse to provide any sort of proof that you're not underaged. I'll let the DA staff take over from here. It won't be long now, I believe.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:10:35 +0000 UTC]
ya know what , i've got better things to do than to argue with somebody who won't take my word for anything
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:14:22 +0000 UTC]
Wanna know why I won't take your word? You don't provide any sources. You don't have PROOF. You can't defend your statements. Your opinion, according to Socrates, is worthless according to those criteria.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:15:16 +0000 UTC]
i have proof , i've given it more than once
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:17:35 +0000 UTC]
Then what is your proof? A link to an essay that doesn't exist? A falsified birth date? A fraudulent news report?
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:20:26 +0000 UTC]
no , i'm not lying about my age at all , i know i'm 18 , i know people have hated on atheists
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:24:45 +0000 UTC]
While it is true people have hated on Atheists, that doesn't mean that everyone does. Though, I don't expect one such as you to understand that through your blatant logical deficiency. If you are really 18, why don't you type like an adult?
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:34:01 +0000 UTC]
i reported you before you reported me
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:37:05 +0000 UTC]
For what, might I ask? Defending my opinion and inquiring about yours? I guess Einstein was right; The only two infinite things are the universe and human stupidity, mind you. It is impossible to get someone banned on grounds of debating. It is, though, possible to get someone banned for being underaged or lying about their age. As I said before, I have lost interest. Goodbye, and I certainly hope you don't circumvent the block system to further push your "argument." Good day, happy new years, and do your homework.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:28:53 +0000 UTC]
FOR THE LAST TIME , AGE DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:31:22 +0000 UTC]
It does matter. Why would you be defending that so fervently if you did not have a reason to? It's quite obvious that you're underaged from that alone. I'd also like you to know that I have notified the DA staff of you, and if they find you to be guilty of violating the COPPA, you will be removed from the site.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:32:22 +0000 UTC]
i am 18 , you don't have to be a certain age to be a certain way
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-02 00:34:00 +0000 UTC]
Say what you like. I, for one, have lost interest. You've failed to put up a good argument on any front at all.
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to Daebelly [2016-01-02 00:34:57 +0000 UTC]
i've put up more than 1 good argument
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:09:30 +0000 UTC]
Sure, and I painted the Mona Lisa.
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Daebelly In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:13:20 +0000 UTC]
Suuure you are. Provide proof, otherwise do not reply. Your cries will fall upon deaf ears if you do not prove it.
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commander-rolex In reply to ??? [2015-12-10 04:53:40 +0000 UTC]
I wouldn't use the word hate, but yes I agree that when some people say religion or theist they really mean christanity or christan
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Ryuuseinow In reply to ??? [2015-11-14 17:52:43 +0000 UTC]
Tbh antitheist might as well be called anti-Abrahamic religions since I'm sure they haven't even checked out the other religions such as Hinduism and Buddhism.
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RedAmerican1945 In reply to Ryuuseinow [2015-12-29 19:56:08 +0000 UTC]
No we acknowledge the other religions and criticize them. But with the Abrahamic religions they seemingly are causing the biggest troubles in the religious world. Does that mean we completely forget of other problems caused by religion, hell no. Like the conservative Buddhists in Myanmar killing the Muslim minority. Or all the other wackjob religious groups doing horrible shit.
Also mostly Atheists don't care if you have a religion or not, what we do care is if you are a good person and that you don't use that religion to justify crime and horrible acts. Other than that I don't care if a person is religious.
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Ryuuseinow In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2015-12-30 03:19:30 +0000 UTC]
You do know I was referring to antitheists not atheists, right?
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Impious-Imp In reply to ??? [2015-11-10 16:41:17 +0000 UTC]
I don't hate christians, I don't know you all. how can I hate you?
I have prejudices, sure. But everyone does. I don't think christians should have so much political power, but that didn't mean they should silenced either. most people object mostly to monotheism like islam and Christianity because they have the largest impact on policy be it in the middle east where it's the theocratic law of the land, or in America where a vocal extreme minority had undue political power over said policy and seems deadset on enforcing their religion on everyone else.
Some people are far angrier than others.
Personally I think you christians should be as outraged a s the atheists at what people have done in the name of your God
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to ??? [2015-11-06 05:33:15 +0000 UTC]
I'm STILL trying to figure out why the fuck are some atheists bashing my god and then claiming they don't believe in him....
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RedAmerican1945 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2015-12-29 19:57:53 +0000 UTC]
We criticize people who take that god to a literal key and use him to justify horrible acts they commit. When we deal with people that are so religious they are willing to impose their morality and what they think is right on others theres no doubt we will argue them down to no end.
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2015-12-30 01:24:56 +0000 UTC]
Listen good sir, If I shot you right now, God isn't the one doing it. Anyone who claims God when doing something against his rules needs to rethink. Anybody who claims God, isn't always with God, if I robbed a store, and I said you plan the whole thing, when you aren't even in the country. Is that not heresy? I don't know what God those ppl you are talking about believe in, but the God I believe would never sacrifice my morality. Those ppl you are talking about clearly doubt their God.
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RedAmerican1945 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2015-12-30 01:52:23 +0000 UTC]
I said they use religion to justify crimes not that he's doing it himself (-_-). Like Abortion clinic bomber saying their doing the lord work or muslim terrorists killing people in the name of Allah. And fundamentalist Jews killing arabs because god say "This is our land and we mush wipe out the filthy Arabs that stole it." It's these kind of people we hate.
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2015-12-30 02:42:12 +0000 UTC]
They can justify whatever the fuck they want, if they think they can get away with it, they got another thing coming. Hitler nearly wiped out those "Jews", and it came back and bit him in the ass.
But then again, to say you guys only bash people who try to justify what they do, using God, is complete bullshit. Lemme guess, you met ppl on dA who justify why they are pro-life, or don't support LGBT(PD...etc) or some other matter of a sort, by using God as a justification?
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RedAmerican1945 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2015-12-30 02:50:13 +0000 UTC]
I talk with them and discuss why they aren't pro choice or pro LGBT. I don't force others to become like me I'm just interested in why there the other way. And generally when I talk with "Pro-Lifers" and Anti LGBT people they use the "GOd says it's unnatural" argument. Which is bullshit in many way but I wont go into that.
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2015-12-30 04:21:56 +0000 UTC]
But, is that a reason to "attack" them. You want a "REAL" reason they won't support those things? It's...their "choice" every lil thing in everybody's life is a choice. If they don't care about gays or pro-choicers, that is their choice, no freedom, the same thing those guys want,BUT, they want guidelines to their freedom, such as, no killing and etc. I see no problem, as long as they aren't murdering and raping all willy nilly, cause "gawd awow dem to" when he didn't....
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RedAmerican1945 In reply to wakaflockaflame1 [2015-12-30 04:31:13 +0000 UTC]
You seem to think me changing their mind on the subject as being taking away their choice and their freedom. If some still want's to hate gays and wont change fine but as long as they don't try to impose their morality on others. And you may say i'm trying to impose my morality, no. I would try to change their mind and if they don't what to fine they can be like that.
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wakaflockaflame1 In reply to RedAmerican1945 [2015-12-31 01:54:31 +0000 UTC]
Civility, courtesy, and politeness, all ruled by my morality...we need more morality on the internet.
But I'm not really referring to you, I'm referring to the atheist that can easily tell someone to go "kill urself" when someone has a different opinion.
Thank you for you civility, courtesy, and politeness in this conversation, despite me upping the heat. For that I wish peace and good will in your life.
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GySGtGibbs In reply to ??? [2015-10-06 03:24:15 +0000 UTC]
Atheists won't attack any other religion because they want to appear "progressive", and they'd be labeled Nazis if they attack Jews, or Islamophobes if they attack Islam (although in truth, atheists are more worried about Muslims killing them for insulting their faith).
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GodsofWarAndRock In reply to GySGtGibbs [2016-01-01 20:02:46 +0000 UTC]
atheists don't address religion because of god , they address it because of the people who believe in god
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GySGtGibbs In reply to GodsofWarAndRock [2016-01-01 23:37:27 +0000 UTC]
What the hell difference does that make? None whatsoever.
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