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Published: 2009-05-11 04:44:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 10938; Favourites: 68; Downloads: 1301
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A first WIP of my uniform compilation. I wanted to stick in what I'm thinking of doing for the enlisted uniform. I'd like some comments on it before I go further, and I'm going to put a bunch of pockets on it once I'm more set with it.Related content
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In this case, it would be for dedicated pilots, be they starbase couriers or fighter pilots. Though, it might be interesting to make the helmsman wear that... yet more colour on the bridge, hah.
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I know this is old but thought I would wade in. In Star Trek Deep Space Nine, 'Nor the Battle to the Strong', there are many marines in that episode, though I am not sure we see more then 1 or 2.
If you scroll down the page I linked too (within all the text) there is an image of one of the marines from that episode, and yes (can't remember if it was him or not) someone in that episode DOES mention they are a marine.
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I know this is old but thought I would wade in. In Star Trek Deep Space Nine, 'Nor the Battle to the Strong', there are many marines in that episode, though I am not sure we see more then 1 or 2.
If you scroll down the page I linked too (within all the text) there is an image of one of the marines from that episode, and yes (can't remember if it was him or not) someone in that episode DOES mention they are a marine.
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I still really like this. It's a nice touch of uniform evolution, as well as a touch of the old burgandy uniforms (the belt, rank on the sleeve.
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One thing that I have never understood is why Tactical/Security is handled by a naval officer position when in the real world its done by enlisted marines.
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Because from the 23rd century onward, there are no marines.
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I think thats a misconception. The Federation Marine Corp may be a fully integrated into the Starfleet command structure, but the training needed to be effective in there respective roles is holey incomparable.
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No, really, there are no marines. Federation security, at the most. Starfleet's an exploratory organization, not a military anyway.
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The more I learn about the setting the more i'm convinced the righter are completely insane.
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Well then, you don't understand the world that Gene Roddenberry tried to create.
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You're wrong. There are Federation Marines.
And star-fleet is two halves. It is not just an exploratory body. It also constitutes the defense of the entire United Federation.
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Show me an episode of Star Trek, excluding Enterprise, where they once say there is a Federation Marine Corps. Books, games, and extended media do not count in terms of Trek Canon. Ask Mike Okuda.
And try to be more...polite, if you don't mind? Especially when telling me I'm wrong when, by the official laws of Star Trek canon as determined by those who produce it support my argument.
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I was not impolite. Stating that someone is incorrect is not rude. I apologize if my plain spoken nature was abrasive in nature, though. However, you should also reflect a mirror at yourself. Telling someone that they don't "understand" the nature of Gene Roddenberry's universe simply because they see something that is a blatant void in a concept is quite rude. It wouldn't make any sense for a body such as the Starfleet to not have a dedicated ground force. Episodes like The Original Series episode "Errand of Mercy" also indicate that Klingons and Starfleet alike are used to ground occupation taking place. Something which Federation security simply isn't equipped to handle.
Well that is a bit of a blurry line isn't it? Starfleet on many occasions has used ground forces (DS9 has many such instances) and I very much doubt they were using the by-the-numbers federation security for those jobs. You'd NEED a dedicated marine or strictly military force to handle those situations. It's widely accepted in fanon, not directly refuted in canon, and even vaguely supported based on that assertion. The MACO's wouldn't count as a direct support for them either though since they were outside of the SF command structure.
So my bottom line is this. Canon does not directly refute the existence, and allows for some interpretation. Fanon and EU often says they do exist. Mike Okuda's words are not gospel. Even Gene Roddenberry himself has been retconned by "canon" over the years. I'll take the side of logic over a filler line from a creative head that makes no sense.
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These look really good! I'm glad you chose orange for the pilots. It's my favorite color, and it's what I'd do on board a starship ^^
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Haha thanks, I went with orange because back during the cold war, interceptor pilots above the arctic circle wore high visibility orange in case they crashed. Astronauts still wear orange too.
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Very nice.
If I can suggest a material, microweave canvas isn't that bad...cotton's not that bad either, but flammable.
Microfiber polyester, or basically anything microfiber will work. Comfortable, but strong. o:
I always figuered there'd be an under-uniform we don't see...kinda like, modern Class-B army uniforms, you tend to have a plain white T-shirt underneathe the green shirt with all the pins and stuff in it...mostly because it makes it more comfortable to wear with a bunch of decorations.
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Well, in Voyager, there were a few instances where they took off the jacket as well as the shirt. I figure that there will be a more "activity oriented" uniform which will be more durable and have the option of just wearing the undershirt.
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the uniforms in the middle row I really like! The dark with just the hint of color really comes across nice!
I think what it is the subtly of them. The black makes a point of letting everyone know they are together, team or crew, but the small suggestion of color also is enough, I'm going toward the idea you're sticking with bright colors but those that glow in the dark like some do, still gives them their identity of their chosen area of the fleet.
it's enough to say were part of the larger group but we also have alligence to those of our department too. I mean I know that is always a part of it in the show, but this is so much more classy! Okay classy might not be right but definitly dramatic and making a point. Where my reviewing is rambling and confusing.
Let's say I like 'em. I like 'em alot.
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Haha well, my primary thoughts dealt with the fact that Starfleet uniforms seemed to become more and more militarisitic. I figured that, yes, dark military uniforms are good when necessary, but when not on military missions, Starfleet officers are supposed to be on optimistic missions of exploration. Because of that, brighter uniforms would convey the positive nature of the mission.
But anyway, I'm glad you like them ^_^
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Good Uniforms.
I happen to like them the way they are. I might use some of the design eliments in some of my uniforms..
As far as the "Picard Maneuver", (>D)I think you'll get that with any material you pick.
(FYI- If you haven't seen the the new Star Trek movie, GO SEE IT. It's defently worth the money. Althou they do spin the Star Trek 'vers on its head...)
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I'll see it eventually.
But I'm glad you like my uniforms lol
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No prob...
Quick question, what software do you use for your ceations?
If you don't mind me asking...
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For the ships or these drawings specifically? Because I'm using GIMP for these uniforms.
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Acualy... both.
the only things I got is the standared Paint and Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0 plus one more that I need to put on my new Laptop...
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Ah, I got Photoshop Elements 6.0 from my girlfriend just the other day, haven't used it yet. GIMP is a free version of Photoshop that's somewhat stripped down but still useful. For my 3d ships, I model them in AC3D, export them as .obj files, set up the scenes in PoseRay, render them using POVRay, and then compile the scenes in GIMP, or Photoshop if it's available.
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Thx for the info. I've just been using Paint for most of my stuff. (I have minor gliches with my photoshop...)
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I'm glad you approve ^_^
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Woohoo, first to comment!
Ok, with all honesty, I like them. I would switch up the colors for the Command staff though. They need to be more prominent than the others so everyone knows who they are. I do like the ribbing effect on the front of the shirts...looks comfortable. Just promise me that if these go into production, go with a more breathable and better fitting fabric so we don't have to see the "Picard Pull-Down".
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Well, when we get to the 29th century, we have blue for command anyway, and it's just the color I really wanted for it (blue's my favorite color 
As for the "Picard Maneuver" haha I liked that little move, but hopefully it'd be something that resists wrinkles but isn't too unyielding. I just don't want it to be the material they used for the original jumpsuit types from the first few seasons of TNG.
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Oh god, not those suits! Those jumpsuits were made more out of spandex than anything else, so you could suffer an atomic wedgie very easily. I had heard that the crew had problems breathing in the outfits and they sweat alot because of the spandex and poly blend.
I like blue as well, a nice deep royal blue.
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Yeah, they also complained that they were painful. They'd stick to your back and tug on your skin. And I'm glad you approve of the blue haha
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The only good thing to come out of those outfits was the women...oh wait, that didn't sound right...hmmm, remember the episode The Naked Now from STNG? Those swaying hips of Tasha Yar on her way to Data's room? Hehe, what a trek geeky moment.
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Haha yeah, that was quite an episode
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