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Comments: 16
PoorEccentric [2012-04-17 00:49:15 +0000 UTC]
I really agree with the last bit about wanting to make distinct characters, but not ones that are too unusual. Whenever there's a character who acts in a way that just doesn't make sense in the society or situation they're in, it really throws me off.
I also know what you mean about the 11 needed elements. It explains all of those times when I've read a book and felt at the end that it was missing drama or humor or any of the other 9. The fact that we're all so used to experiencing these every day explains why I sometimes feel so hollow after finishing a book that's missing one of them.
Anyway, great tutorial.
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jomog369 In reply to PoorEccentric [2012-04-18 03:32:50 +0000 UTC]
Thank you very much. Your comment is greatly appreciated.
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Rattlesire [2012-04-09 20:38:09 +0000 UTC]
As a writer who has published both short stories and novellas, as well as providing tips and advice to upcoming writers, I have to say that I found this tutorial extremely lacking in its purpose. There is an enormous amount of grammatical and punctuation errors that defy your experience in the industry and cause a problem with credentials. In addition, I have to agree with the comments thus far written. To say that writing fanfiction is a lack of creativity is to say that artists who use references to anatomically correct their poses are not artists at all.
Many writers thrive on fanfiction, and thrive on the feedback that is provided by other fanfiction writers. While fanfiction does not get published (although I should retract this statement as the Gaming section of any bookstore will reveal an enormous amount of fanfiction for video games and television shows. While many can consider this to be 'canon' and therefore never 'fanfiction' since that lies under 'fanon', fanon can easily become canon if the writer is respected enough and spotted by the producers and strike a book deal. and while there is a culture in fanfiction writing that does delude many writers to what the industry expects of us, it is by no means something that should be thrown out the window. To outright say this, in a tutorial, which many writers who will be writing fanfiction will come to in order to gain advice, you are pretty much laughing in their faces and stating that they will never be writers.
I cannot advise this tutorial to any of my writer's circles, as they simply would be lead in the wrong direction, and unmotivated.
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jomog369 In reply to Rattlesire [2012-04-09 22:41:35 +0000 UTC]
1. The grammar errors are the result of the dictation software and new computer that I'm in the process of breaking in and will be fixed shorthly. The version that showed up on my screen, incidentally, was not what wound up in the post. I'm still trying to determine what happened. I would also like to point out that you forgot to close your parentheses. Not to mention your missed capital letters and punctuation. But then again, maybe I'm just lacking in purpose.
2. There is a difference between a yahoo using another writer's characters and plot lines, and a professional being commissioned to write in an established series. Telling starting writers that fanfiction is a perfectly acceptable way to break into the field is rediculous. Being disingenuous to someone starting out is just setting them up for a fall. Though, if you want to call that laughing in their faces, by all means continue to call it that.
3. Comparing fanfiction to the use of anatomically correct models in painting is as far off base as you can get. An analogy between correct anatomy and correct grammar would have been more accurate and more biting. It seems this may be lost on you, though.
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lupienne [2012-04-09 15:35:06 +0000 UTC]
"People who write fanfiction, in general, lack any discernible form of creativity.'
It's funny how this line ties directly into your realism paragraph.
'...if the story....defies reality too much, then your readers will put the book down and not finish it.'
I certainly did not finish your tutorial after reading such an unrealistic and ignorant comment.
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jomog369 In reply to lupienne [2012-04-09 16:59:53 +0000 UTC]
You can choose to not finish if you wish, but I think if you ever try to submit to an publishing house you're view on fanfiction might chnage VERY fast. There's a reason why publishers have 'no fanfiction' clauses.
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lupienne In reply to jomog369 [2012-04-09 17:43:11 +0000 UTC]
I don't think my view will change. Trying to publish a story is something entirely different than stating 'people who write fanfic have no creativity.'
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jomog369 In reply to lupienne [2012-04-09 17:56:22 +0000 UTC]
I can respect that your view won't change, but neither will mine.
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DoogieRace [2012-04-09 09:17:11 +0000 UTC]
Don't judge fanfiction. I know many authors who handle this genre with a great amount of creativity.
I've been writing fanfictins myself for years now and it's a good training. Because the more you write the better you can get.
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jomog369 In reply to DoogieRace [2012-04-09 17:05:46 +0000 UTC]
I'm judging fanfiction on a basis of professional publishing. Of all the editors I know, and work with, not one views fanfition as a genre, let alone publishable literature. There is a very real problem of plagerism. If you want to write fanfiction on your own time, perfectly fine, but sending a fanfic piece into a publishing house isn't a great idea and that is the prrespective I'm coming from.
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DoogieRace In reply to jomog369 [2012-04-09 19:06:57 +0000 UTC]
Ah, okay, then I was getting things wrong. Of course you can't send a fanfiction to a publishing house. But posting them on the internet is tolerated and can help a lot practicing.
And some of the Xena-books (when I remember correctly) were originally fanfictions. But I know that's a rare case.
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jomog369 In reply to DoogieRace [2012-04-09 22:35:02 +0000 UTC]
Those Xena books were commisioned pieces. Think of it as ghost writing for an established author, which can be a double edged sword. You don't have to do much in terms of story line, but you also can't just start writing what you like either.
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Rekalnus [2012-04-09 09:12:51 +0000 UTC]
This is practically a checklist! Thanks for providing this. I particularly like the way you separate the inspiration and fanfiction and plagiarism, as much as can be.
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