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JynxFreak — The Atavian Wing Structure
Published: 2007-07-19 08:26:37 +0000 UTC; Views: 5256; Favourites: 63; Downloads: 180
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This is an amalgamation of three previous deviations that I've made, depticting a theoretical bone and muscle structure for a winged humanoid. I had previously done them by hand and scanned them in for a touchup, but now I wanted it to look like I'd drawn them onto parchment or somesuch. Enter digital manipulation, stage left. Exit Ram, stage right. This was a big picture, and my computer did not like it one bit.I like the way it turned out, though. The 'mixed media' category is because it's half traditional half digital.
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Where did you get the name Atavian from? Also is it copyrighted? Because I am writing a novel that includes winged humanoids and need a better name that "Avians"
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What's wrong with "Avian"? That's the name I'm using, and it sounds all right to me!
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After doing some research I have found out that Atavians are from a video-game, so I cannot use Atavian in my book, oh well. Thanks for replying BTW
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You're writing a book to? Sweet! Pardon my prying, but what's it about?
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Yeah, and don't worry you're not prying 
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Nice. I haven't started on the project with the "Avian" part in it yet, but I have just finished the first draft on another book (my first, actually!). The finished one is about a girl who, through a series of misconceptions, ends up earning a living off of assassination. It works off an interesting concept, as you go through the whole book without ever once learning a character's name.
Allow a word of friendly advice: it'll seem to daunting if you view it as a book, so instead look at it one chapter at a time, as a bunch of short stories. Good luck!
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That sounds awesome, and thank you
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Don't mention it.
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I like the rendering of this but the double jointed shoulder blade limits the independent mobility of both wing and arm. Something to reconsider.
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Da Vinci Flavored. 'Cept he never had anything as shiny as an Atavian to dissect...
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Very interesting! I love seeing concepts like this. But I have a bit of a comment, wouldn't having the muscle structure connected to the neck/back of the head make flying difficult? Like every time the wing was raised the head would snap up. But then again XD that's just a little sketch by the side, every other idea is superb. It looks like its a real image used in a text book.
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Well, to be honest, having it attached anywhere is awkward because by rights it should be the pectorals the wings attach to.
Also, it's not the back of the head I really intended there, so much as the shoulders and trapezius. There'd probably still be problems, but the only other solution I could think of was obliterating the shoulders by having the wing muscles come down over them and attach to the sternum like the pectorals do. Which would look very not-human and potentially not work anyway, depending on the elasticity of everything.
Thanks for the comment though, glad to hear you like it.
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zomg amazing! I've been trying to think of a semi-reasonable way to attatch wings and here you've got it all done and shiny no less!
*gives you a cookie*
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Hmm, do you still have the original parchment background ??
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Well, actually, it was one small parchment texture lifted from a PS brush site that I abused the hell out of in Corel Photopaint. It looks pretty hokey without stuff on top to break up the 'shopping. Why?
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Been shopping for a decent parchment pattern that can fill a decent size
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Well, that texture I made up IS holycraphuge, but I dunno if you'd call it decent. You can have it anyway, if you want.
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Wow.
Just.... wow.
I had never really taken the skeletal structure into consideration when deawing wings, and they'd always turned out more than a little wonky. and... now I know why 8D
Instafave, m'dear.
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Thank you! <3
I admit now, I am a squinch on the obsessive side when it comes to my fantasy worlds. I like to design scientific detail where I can- I guess it makes stuff more "real". Someday, I'll upload all the stuff I invented for the lizardmen.
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8D awesome! I look forward to it. Almost done your sketch request, by the way.
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knowing what little i know of avian anatomy... I would venture to guess that the ribcage should have flexible side hinges, and the sternum as well as clavicles and scapulas would be much larger to bear the pulling force of the musculature... but, they arent pure birds i suppose... you did a great job though, I love sceletons! and hexipods... your rendition of this body plan is still excelent in it's conception!
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Thank you very much for saying so.
As for the avian anatomy- well, the problem is these people LOOK human, just with big wings on the back. So I had to work the avian elements into a relatively human skeleton. As it is, I made the sternum bigger and the chest cavity deeper, though not so much that it'd look odd on a human. I should have thought to make the scapula and clavicle bigger. Damn! Oh well, maybe next time, and thanks for pointing it out
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boneclones.com... the only reason i knew that... and a finnish weird person.
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.....ooooooh, this gives me a neat reference guide... xD
great work! geez, that must've taken forever to do. I like how you give a little bit of the muscular structure as well. ^^
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I did intend to fully plan out the muscular structure as I did with the bones, but I never got around to it >_> Maybe next time I'm feeling anatomical.
I'll tell you a secret, though, about how long it took me to do. I'm righthanded, mmm? So... I drew the right hand side, and then flipped it in my editing program for the other half >_> I could never have gotten it so even otherwise. *taps the side of her nose* it's little tricks like that.
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haha. xD yeah, I know that trick. I've been working on a lot of character sheets lately so it's almost essential for me. o_o;;
It is an awesome sheet, though. Might make a good reference for me... (I have several winged characters. >_>;; ) That is, if you don't mind? xD
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Not at all. I should probably note, though, the wings I drew in the muscular diagrams are far too small. To lift a humanoid, you'd have to have upwards of a twelve foot wingspan- the tops of the wings would probably extend beyond the top of the character's head, and the wingtips would probably come close to brushing the ground. (though that, obviously, can be altered for personal taste and suchlike). And no, of course I don't mind.
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That's sort of... WAY cool. Outstanding, actually.
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I nearly exploded, trying to get it all amalgamated. My RAM abandoned me.
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really nice effects, very da vinchi style 
correct me if im wrong here (probably am) but these are feathered wings? I was admiring your work when it dawned on me that if humans had wings, theyd be kinda like bats (being mammals and all) and I'd imagine theres kinda bones that hang downwards from the main structure. I dont pretend to know anything about bat wings though and I'm not seeing anything being wrong if theyre feathered wings (I love how these are drawn
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Yeah, they are feathered wings. I must admit I was tempted to do the bat-thing for these, but I looked it up and birds have fused bones at the end so I drew that. You've got a good point there though, they probably WOULD be bat-type wings. That's a really interesting thought, actually. Hmmm.
(These winged humanoids are supposed to be descended from Harpies, though, which are descended from birds. Parallel evolution perhaps.)
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this is really good
when i first looked at it i thought it was a real one (as in proper anatomical sketchy thingy from an old book)
Very well done
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