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Published: 2017-01-05 08:26:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 5209; Favourites: 333; Downloads: 27
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Graves wondered why it took so long for his colleagues to notice the cuckoo in the nest. By then it has already tipped all the eggs out and well on its way to being a fat parasite. Maybe that was why Newt was able to spot the imposter for what he is. Magical creatures expert indeed.
I should never paint at 2am at this point I am operating on my insanity alone. And I may have been reading too much angstyGraves post-Grindelwald fics of why no one in the MACCU noticed the substitution but a stranger whom he has never met before did (although Iβm a fan of Theseus and Graves tots being pen pals and fellow Auror brothers in arms).
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Great expressions! I am looking forward to see what happens to these two characters in the next movie.
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Thank you same especially Graves *fingers crossed
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wow, this is amazing and very expressive ! Love this painting, even though I do hate Grindel-Graves, well, the way he uses Credence and abuses his lovely feelings for him.Β As explanation for why no one at Macusa noticed, well Grindelwald is supposed to be one of the best dark wizard ever. Can't help but wondering if he has not confused and imperius many persons there. Like the executionners, they look completely dazed. He does have a micro second when he can't seem to remember Abernathy's name and hesitates for a little bit, but that's the only mistake he makes. But your painting really does show the difference between Grindelwald's pretence at caring when using Grave's body and the reality of his uncaring and cunning real face. Wished we knew more about how and when he took Grave's place. For instance, did Grave knew Credence before or not, did he really care about him and that would be a reason why Grindel used him to get close to him etc.
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Yeah the popular opinion was that he impervius the executioners because they look too happy for someone about to execute people lol. I know it would have been great if we get to see the interactions between original Graves and anyone to be honest so we can actually see the minuscule differences ourselves between Graves and Grindelgraves
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Yes they look like weird. That would have been great indeed to know more about the real graves. Bought the screenplay but unfortunately there is absolutely no more information than in the films. Wish they would write a rΓ©al book like for Harry Potter. There were so much more information than in the films.
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Omg that would be awesome I'll like to know how Graves is described now we know the charmer that is Colin Farrell has played him XD
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Yep but I'm not sure that a book is planned unfortunately. Maybe if a lot of fans ask nicely, who knows ? ^.^ Can't help but wondering if that's more Grindelwald seductive ways of acting than Graves, like Voldemort. They both use charisma to charm people. According to the the HP books, Dumbledore was in love with G. too and did wrong things under his influence, so maybe it's just Grid's way to manipulate people, so he can use them, like many seducers actually. Maybe a tiny part of him does feel some love. After all, he could 've killed Credence when he did not need him anymore, certainly Voldemort would have done it, for 'fun' and to cover his tracks. But Grind did not. And when he discovers the power of Credence, he seems completely seduced himself, the way he looks at him as an Obscurial with so much awe, love and respect. Quite sad actually. As if he could not see Credence's beauty in his vulnerability and sweetness. As if he can only respect power and violence. And he does seem genuinely devastated when he is killed, though we don't know if it's about Credence's potential to serve his plan that just got destroyed or about Credence's himself.
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Hum I sort of see GG looking at Credence as a power source but not really a human being. To be honest his charisma around Credence has a rather oily cloy feel to it like he's really milking Credence's need for affection and being the psycho maniac that he is he seized on that weakness and exploit it. Like the nature of psychopaths is to be completely charming and appear the opposite of what people thought killers should appear. But his relationship with Dumbledore though, that is something I'm really looking forward to seeing more of, I mean Rowling really teased us with that in the HP books and it kills me so much that they're both in FBWTFT but not together on screen haha XD Not sure if all five of the movies are to build up towards the end of WWII where Dumbledore and GG have their epic showdown but I hope to see more of their interactions before all that.
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Quite agree with that GG does not feel great love, well not in a altruist sane and healthy way anyways. But it feels he does feel something, compared to Voldemort. He seems more reluctant to kill (he avoids fighting the aurors at the end until they block his escape, he does not kill Credence when he does not need him anymore and does not know him yet as a power source, even though his secret connection and enquiries about obscurs with him could seem dodgy to wizards if found out, so killing him after he led him to Modesty would have made sense to most 'bad guys" and also when fighting Tina at the end, he also does not kill her, well he did condemn her to death beforehand so he's still bad enough not to hesitate to have someone else killed to save his own skin and the way he dumps Credence after getting to Modesty is just plain cruelty) but GG does not seem to find it funny when he does kill (no maniac laughter). He's a right bad person, but seems a little less evil and a touch more human than Voldemort and to truly believe he acts for a greater good whilst Voldemort just wants power for himself. Though obviously no nobel peace prize material. I just think GG is more interesting as a character, more intricate like human beings can be, less 100% fairy tale evil, more tricky and complicated. In a way, even more dangerous, because he can seem nice at times, but basically, he is mostly not. Whilst Voldemort, you never could get that much manipulated because he's obviously unable of love or even faking it. Would've been interesting to see if GG would've mourned or defended Credence from any attacks, before knowing he was the source of power he was looking for. Then we would've known if there was any good in him or not.
Can't wait to see young Dumbledore yes 
Wondered for a while if Credence could not become Snape later on, very strong dark wizard but with a good heart, good reasons to be a cynical loner, what if Newt took him to Dumbledore to help him, but that would made him 76 at the first Harry Potter. He's not that old in the film, he was only about 55-60 the actor. Plus we saw him younger meeting Lily. So unless a time turner was used but then if Dumbledore did that, he would have made sure to give him a nicer family this time, not yet again an unloving one, so it does not fit. But both characters have a lot in common, I really like them both. Very tragic, they both have so much to give but no one to, or not the right person for them. Also wish we generally knew more about all the teachers at Hogwart's. We don't get to know much about them, Snape excepted and yet again, very briefly.
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Actually it is very interesting to contrast Voldemort with GG, like Voldemort I notice had absolutely no qualms about just outright killing people, he had that propensity even as a child. GG on the other-hand manipulates people mostly and somehow more often than not when people die its only as a consequence of his actions, not because he wanted them dead directly. He just sows chaos and if people die because of it he doesn't care, but if people don't die he won't go out of his way to make sure they are dead, unlike Voldemort. And also Voldemort likes to cast the killing curse like 90% of the time and from what I read casting the killing curse requires absolutely 100% intent to kill which sort of says a lot about GG's personality that he doesn't use any. Of course this is not meant to compare how horrible both of them are, as a holocaust survivor cum historian once said, there should be no hierarchy for suffering. So in short they are both horrible but it reveals a lot about the way they operate and how different both of them are from each other even if their goals as a whole seem to be the same. And exactly as you said, GG is more intricate as a villain than Voldemort, I think Rowling took the short cut out when she made Voldemort the cookie cut villain by saying he was born without empathy and is a textbook psychopath. Like that is too simplistic but I understand its a book for children so she has to write a very clear dichotomy between light and dark but as an adult I guess I wish she made him a bit more complex? Like even as a child I would have understood and I think its good for children to realise even with villains there are shades of grey as with everything else in life.
I think in HP's time Dumbledore is in his 100s like wizards can live to a very old age although not as old as Nicholas Flamel but beyond the average Muggle centenarian. So I think he ages physically very slowly haha like since in HP he only looked about in his late 80s when he is clearly a few decades older than that. I know, I would love to know more about the other professors too, maybe they will have a cameo in the other films as their younger selves, who knows
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thank you for your very interesting and thoughtful reply ! I think you're right, Voldemort is a simplistic sadist whilst GG is more intricate ! can't wait for the next film ! the trailer 's been released too !
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Very nice art work indeed. 
As for "Graves" collegues - they were looking very stupid indeed. Please, can we have the next movie set in another country....
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I know! I thought the casting wasn't too bad actually if I have never seen the HP version of Grindelwald I would have been happy with JD seeing as he does have the whole maniac look down but after HP i sort of have a version already in my head and its not really JD? > <Β
I know I've chatted about with with another user, we agreed that we would love it if the movie is like a documentary style David Attenborough, except magical creatures and with Newt's neurotic narration as he ran around trying not to be killed by the creatures he's saving XD
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Love them (both the character and the idea)
I hope to see Percival Graves in the next "Fantastic beasts" movie: JK would break my heart if she will not write something about him
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Me too haha how did she not predict the response to his casting unless she knew in which case well played lady well played XD
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Lol that is very creative aaaaahahahaΒ Β
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Insane!! Β I love that!
Goes straight to phone background.
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This is really cool! And the facial expressions, aaah!!! I hadn't really thought about the fact that the real Percival was probably killed, that makes it so so tragic. Oh no now I'm sad. It's gonna be so great to see Grindelwald be defeated (esp now that we know he's played by JD, I really don't like that choice lmao)
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Actually if Grindelwald is using a Polyjuice potion to impersonate Graves he would need to keep him alive for his DNA to keep renewing the potion and also probably for his memories because I doubt Grindelwald would been able to retrieve every little detail from Graves' mind in one go for his job as the Director. Yeeeah it would have been nice with someone new and isn't going to play Grindelwald as crazy insane murderer like Voldermort? I'm optimistic JD might do something different tho hehe
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Wow, just stunning β₯ This is one of the most perfect art works I've ever seen
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This is awesome, and it reminds me of when I saw the movie and at the end (when we see who he really is) I had a little freak out moment cause I didn't know that Johnny Depp was in the movie!
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Actually it was leaked out that he was playing Grindelwald (I found out before the movie was shown in my country) so I knew he will appear I just didn't know when haha
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Well, I wasn't aware of that fact 
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I think being ignorant of it is better haha made the ending of the movie more jarring than it is tbh I was quite disappointed when Colin Farrell morphed into JD and I doubt I was the only one apparently XD
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Eh, I dunno, I was happy to see JD so I don't mind
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Haha that's good then I was just sad when it became apparent that well CF isn't really the main after all XD
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