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Published: 2011-10-27 18:03:23 +0000 UTC; Views: 2650; Favourites: 32; Downloads: 45
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Original Title: What would happen if a T-34-85 and a Sherman Firefly mated?You see, i was imagining what way can a T-34 tank kill a Tiger/Panther/King Tiger/Elefant tank without ever getting killed, at least that it can kill on its own. Is it to put an 88mm gun onto it? A lot who i've asked said "no it cannot be fit onto the T-34-85's turret." So i thought, how about putting a 17 pounder from the Sherman Firefly, so it can kill a Tiger on its own? So i made this. I took the T-34-85 from here [link] . It has the ZiS-S-53 gun onto it, then i saved a picture of a Sherman Firefly, and copied its gun. In a way, at least the 17 pounder can be ok enough being installed onto a T-34-85's turret, now that it can kill a Tiger/Panther/King Tiger, and at the same time, be fitted with less problems.
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The T-34 was given the 85 mm gun to kill Tigers, and all thous other tanks (maybe not King Tiger even Firefly's had problems with them), so yeah. Nice concept though man.
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Thanks!Β
Nice concepts out there as well!Β
Do you plan on making other variations of other tanks? (such as T-54 with 122mm gun or something)
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I might i'm not sure.
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I would rather keep the T-34 the way it is and use aΒ Jagdpanzer 38(t) Hetzer which already has aΒ 88mm KwK 43 L/71 as its main armament. The T-34 is my favourite tank and I don't see why it needs to be changed because it's got enough fire power. It would be better to use a T-34 as bait to get a good shot with the Hetzer at the weaker points of the other tanks.
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The British actually received a T-34 and a KV-1 during WWII.Β They liked the vehicles, and were actually planning to start production of them, the KV with a British howitzer, and the T-34 with the 17 pounder, surprisingly.Β Here's a link to an article on its possible implementation into WoT.
Brainstorming British Premiums
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To ask, would you agree to the implementation of those tanks?Β
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Well yeah.Β More tanks in a tank MMO about tanks fighting other tanks is always welcome.
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Sorry dude, but im think soviet 85mm gun is better that 17 pounder.
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From what i've heard, it's more accurate than 85mm on T-34-85. Unless of course they do improve the 85mm gun to actually punch through Tiger II or whatnot (like Pershing or Jagdtiger) 
No problem though.Β
Say, you play World Of Tanks?Β
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If hundret t-34 shot to one Tiger acuracy is not so big problem 8]
Im not convinced to this game. Mayby if im try...
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Most feared Allied tank for Germans:
1. T-34+Firefly
2. T.34
3. Sherman Firefly
More amazing if you combine Sherman Firefly with IS-2 tank.
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Or maybe, a 88 KwK 43 on an IS-2! the combinations are endless! a T-34 with a 75mm gun from PZ IVG/H or a KV-1 with Panther gun.
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are you sure that changing 122mm to 88mm is going to do ΠΠ‘-2 any good?
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Is it a bad thing, to put 88 Kwk 43 on IS-2? Because at least it could kill anything at a long distance.
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if you want more precision, why don't you think about armaments of isu-122?
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Precision yes, but do remember that the 122mm gun has the downside of having 2 piece ammunition. So suggestable if it is 88mm. But i personally like the BS-3 onto an IS tank/ISU series.
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bs-3 on is? this is going to hurt a lot of people
are you from ukraine?(your av. image makes me think this way)
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No, im not ukrainian. I just don't like UPA. And yes a BS-3 on an IS tank.
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however bs-3 would have been really good on more mobile platform. If only t-34-85 turret was big enough to use it properly. But t-34-100 was total fail. And t-34-85 was not good enough for its role((
is-2 is a heavy tank designed for "head-on" attacks on defended positions(can't find proper terminology in english). Maybe its d-25t wasn't good enough against enemy vehicles(it had really high armor penetration and was enough to destroy almost any tank with one hit, but it lacked precision(when compared to german 88mm) and rate of fire), but it was much better when it came to dealing with defences and infantry inside buildings(when there is no more houses, you can be sure no one is hiding inside of them
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I'm starting to agree with this. But regards to the T-34, i'd still want it installed with a British 17 pounder gun.
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Oww, 88 KwK 43 from Tiger II tank? Yeah, deadly weapon for 2000m range. wow
But
BITCH PLEASE:
How about German Maus XIII prototype tank with American 155mm Long Tom gun?
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Hell yea, but we have to make a thinner armor, and remove the gun mantlet, so at least the point of depression can be tolerated by the gun. other than that, things might be fine.
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So, it's better to be designed as self-propelled howitzer, since in WWII there're only few sph track like German Elefant (role as anti-tank armored, but sometimes used as sph role on Battle of Kursk as opening fire, together with Stukas).
I wonder how if German Maus tank is combined with modern tank engine with T-90 tank (fastest tank in the world with 72kph top speed offroad and 88kph road), maybe at least it can move 20-30 kph. hahaha...
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like i said, it's possible. it can be good or bad. it might be better if someone made a Maus tank out of better and lighter alloys.
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But if we reduce the height, I think Tiger II is more effective between firepower and speed, even it need over 4 directly shots from US 75mm AT gun to destroy Tiger II.
I can't wonder how if Sovie IS-2 tank is made on 1944, not 1945 and then used in Battle of Kursk. haha..
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it appeared in 1943
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well, if they did use it in Kursk, the Germans might have deployed their King Tiger earlier, though i think that the best solution is to copy the 88mm guns, & capture ammunition so at least the Soviets can defeat the PZ IVs that were numerous.
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But in fact, King Tiger is quite easily penetrated by Soviet 122mm AT gun, even Germans quite feared with Soviet 76mm AT gun. It's why King Tiger is created. wow...
But in my mind, it's possible that Katyusha rockets are used to destroy tanks?
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1. True, but then the barrel of the IS-2 was shorter than 88 KwK 43.
2. It is possible they did use Katyusha rockets, but keep in mind that a tank can still move, so if they were going to use such weapons, it must have needed a lot of rockets, just to kill a tank.
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talking of tanks, and since you play CoH, have you tried the Sherman Firefly in that game?
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Nice idea, the 17-pounder would give the T-34 better armour-piercing abilities.
I wonder how would this tank be named, maybe T-34/76,2 or T-34/34 ( since Russians don't use pounds, 17 pounds = 34 kg ) ?
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now the question is, can a T-34 try a 20 pounder? because it is possible with an original Cromwell tank (Charioteer Tank Destroyer).
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Since the 20-pounder was 83,4mm, it should match the gun mantle for original 85mm gun.
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i want to ask, can the panther tank gun be used in the T-34/85?
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can a 17 pounder gun destroy a T-44's front?
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If this is up to scale, I think this would do. 17 pdr was smaller in calibre, but it was better in term of quality than the ZiS-S-53. The point is, without British sights its effectiveness would be considerably lower.
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"If this is up to scale, I think this would do." what do you mean of this sentence?
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I mean, if the T-34 and the 17 pdr are in the same scale. If I'd compare this to models, if both are 1/72, 1/48 or 1/35.
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like I said before, you really know your tanks
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