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Sephirath21000 In reply to Masterbuscus [2015-09-26 21:11:16 +0000 UTC]

it was during Operation: Skybreak, a massive mission at the climax of the story where Littlepip, Velvet Remedy, Calamity, Xenith, Gawd's Talons, the Applejack Rangers, and all of the allies that Littlepip made over the course of months in the Equestrian Wasteland banded together to deliver a final blow to the Grand Pegasus Enclave while they were distracted fighting the currently-leaderless Red Eye's Army in Fillydelphia, the Applejack Rangers would join with the Steel Rangers in fighting against the Enclave while Gawd's Talons dealt with Red Eye's own Talons and Enclave officers, Ditzy Doo would go into the Fillydelphia crater to absorb mass-amounts of radiation to perform a Sonic "Radboom" that'd ground the Enclaves Raptor-Class vessels flying in the area with the blast disintegrating the enchanted clouds that allow the ship to stay airborne. With Red Eyes' Griffins distracted by Gawd's Talons and the Enclave Pegasi, Xenith would sneak into Fillydelphia to liberate and rial-up the slaves into rebellion against the taskmasters.
While this was all happening: it was merely a distraction set-up by Littlepip so she could get into the SPP in order to clear away the clouds and show the Pegasi the horrors of the Wasteland that the Enclave was deliberately hiding from them for 200 years. Thanks to the battle in Fillydelphia, the garrison was threadbare around the main hub, allowing the group of Velvet, Littlepip, Calamity, and Spike to enter without much resistance, Calamity would fly off to snipe the Enclave guards and draw the best fliers away from the fight, Velvet Remedy would enter the communications center and imprison the forces inside to halt communications (thanks to her friendship she developed with the currently orphaned Alicorns in restraining the Pegasi), and Spike would strike down the Raptors still in proximity of the SPP (stating that the "Dragon Killers" that the Raptors were often called were asking to be blasted down for insinuating such a claim), resulting in Spikes eye getting an eye-full of a meal slug.

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Masterbuscus In reply to Sephirath21000 [2015-10-03 02:25:47 +0000 UTC]

Well shit, you didn't need to go THAT in depth but thanks! You also have convinced me to re-read the original FoE.

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Masterbuscus In reply to DarthSithis09 [2014-12-05 18:31:54 +0000 UTC]

Wasnt that sort of a thing in fallout equestria. How they try to maintain friendships thoughout it all. I cant say im 100% accurate, I read this a good while ago but Im sure that was one thing littlepip was trying to do as well as surviving. Thus combineing friendship from mlp and all the survival stuff from fallout. Of course main story plot but Im pretty sure It was an aspect of the story. Wasnt it watcher who told littlepip in the earlier chapters that she should find some friends.

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DarthSithis09 In reply to Masterbuscus [2014-12-06 00:17:18 +0000 UTC]

it has been awhile sense i read it as well, but yes i believe it was. 

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Masterbuscus In reply to DarthSithis09 [2014-12-13 04:15:13 +0000 UTC]

Yay I did a smart

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king-koder In reply to DarthSithis09 [2014-12-02 12:27:27 +0000 UTC]

Post-Fallout Equestria won't be recognizing the characters or plots of any side stories. Only the events of Fallout Equestria by kkat is considered outside of this story's own plot.

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DarthSithis09 In reply to king-koder [2014-12-03 00:44:06 +0000 UTC]

oh ok cool.

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SILENTPHANTOMOMEGA In reply to JetWave [2014-12-04 00:25:31 +0000 UTC]

It's the uniform isn't it?

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king-koder In reply to JetWave [2014-11-01 03:00:46 +0000 UTC]

Which parts are confusing?

Some parts of the comic are purposely left cryptic or incomplete because they contain material that will be relevant later on that I don't need the audience to be aware of at that time.

However, to dispel any confusion, I should be able to answer in-depth any questions regarding the story.

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JetWave In reply to king-koder [2014-11-01 20:56:10 +0000 UTC]

Well for starters, if it's such an honor for him to meet her, I assume that's how many would feel at this time as well. Especially seeing how she has a book written about her adventures. Wouldn't there be more ponies meeting her? Wouldn't her friends be there? Wouldn't Littlepip expect them to be there? She's been inside there for at least 10 years! I know there might be an announcement later or so, but her friends aren't just any ponies. They would be there. It's too special. 

I especially don't understand why she doesn't stand up for herself. She's very defiant and a pony who clearly stands for justice and would want to be treated at least fairly. She clearly hasn't been. Sure, Brick is a dick but you wouldn't expect her to just let him do whatever he wants with her just because he's supposedly NCR. Especially disabling her horn without warning of what it does would be fear triggering for any unicorn. And why does Celestia let them treat her like this? After all those years of Littlepip standing up for her? As soon as he told them to detain her, both Littlepip and Celestia reacted as if they were completely defenseless. There was barely any protest at all. Why would they even need a warrant to secure the tower? They never treated it as Littlepip's home but as some kind of machine that is somehow under their property anyway, and back at HQ they treated Celestia as if she didn't even exist. 

Why would they need to enter the tower in the first place? Could they not have her go through the fire first and welcome her from there? This new pony clearly shows that the entire scene played out up there was pointless. How come Spike doesn't say anything about her restraints at all? Wasn't Littlepip too weak to leave the SPP? Wouldn't being injected by a medical substance just before being burned alive and resurrected again be either pointless or dangerous? It's fire! It's literally described as burning her to death! No matter if it worked or not, it seems way more likely to me that she would end up like most other victims to Spikes fire before she entered the SPP. Heart attacks and generally almost panic to death. I feel like her getting ready to truly face the fire with importance put into it would've been a much better than suddenly being put to sleep like a dog. It makes the fire seem like just a slight inconvenience. Hell it's not even an inconvenience. It's too easy. It's not even a fire anymore. It's just basic teleportation.

Why would the NCR want to switch out the pony controlling the weather? The one controlling it literally has 10+ years of experience without any major hick-ups if any at all. The "certified technician" bullshit is bullshit and she should know it. She's not stupid but she sure seems like it here. She doesn't even have a hint of suspicion for why they're coming inside to get her or why they're arresting her. She responds to the NCR as if they were her parents when it should almost be the other way around. With so much time on her hooves and with so much power, it baffles me that she seems so clueless and lets them get as they want simply because they tell her they want it. From what we've seen, they haven't promised anything in return other than that they will "help her". 

This is becoming a lot longer than I expected. I guess you could say it feels like this: She's too dumb. She's being treated as if she's dumb. Her perception is literally 1. And as a result, it's reflected straight back in our faces making us feel like we as readers are being treated as dumb. Maybe it's a tactic to set up for a hate relationship towards the NCR, but it feels cheap. Painfully cheap, especially seeing as it's at the cost of Littlepip's entire character. I can't see any of her in this grey pony. She's too nice and Fluttershy'ish. It's just not how she is, especially toward the end of her story. I dare say she was even a bit of a cunt, even though it was for a good cause in the end. 

If all this is part of your plan for being cryptic or incomplete, I feel like there's too much of it. Littlepip acting like this doesn't fit into such a plan either. If our main character suddenly changed to something completely different, shouldn't we know about why straight away? Isn't that something the readers need to be aware of? 

As a foot note, I would just like to mention that why I'm making this huge wall of text is because I care for your comic. Your style is adorable. I have doubts about it actually fitting into gore and battle and generally the themes of FoE sa far as visuals go, but I can still imagine you getting it done. I hope the future turns for the best for both you and the comic and hopefully, I won't have nearly as much to complain over when things have been put straight on the table. Or at least that this is just a rocky start, like with many of the sidefics out there. 

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king-koder In reply to JetWave [2014-11-02 10:35:12 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your support, Jetwave. Many of these points have been considered by both myself and the person who helps me with the story. There have been plans for the comic to address these points, but to help alleviate your immediate concerns, I will try to explain my point of view on the matters which you brought up. If you find any further contradictions between the explanation and Fallout: Equestria or logical fallacies, please let me know. In no way do I claim to be flawless in my reasonings.

Below is the response from Gracie Sky from the Legends of Equestria forums, who is the aformentioned person who helps me with the story arc, character development, and the finer details within the story. We extensively collaborate on the story, so this response also represents my opinion as well, except explained more efficiently.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS below.

"I'll start with the details of the Dragonfire portal. From my understanding, the fire is harmless, but creates the pain of being burned alive. This pain is what would cause the stress that would lead to a heart attacks which could possibly be fatal. However, being temporarily tranquilized would make the body unable to feel that temporary pain and should pose no threat to the pony. If there were still the danger of death inherent to taking the Dragonfire portal, then I find it highly unlikely that Littlepip would continue to allow Homage to take the trip twice a year just to visit her in the SPP Tower.

The reason Littlepip's friends aren't present is because they don't know that she has been evicted yet. It is hinted in the first page that Homage found out, presumably during her visit, but Littlepip made her swear under every star in the sky to keep it a secret. I don't believe the NCR would make a public announcement about evicting Littlepip, so that possibility has been eliminated as well. As for why Littlepip would want to keep this a secret even after Homage found out, it's simply because she was not ready to leave at the time and hoped against her better judgement that she wouldn't have to leave.

As has been stated before briefly, Littlepip has completely changed over the course of 10 years. Her personality has evolved throughout the Fallout Equestria story arc, from a pony who didn't stand out while she was living in Stable 2, to a charismatic leader over the course of 3 months. Likewise, I am going to insinuate that over the course of 10 years in the SPP tower, her personality has adapted to her surroundings again. This time, however, she has lived in solitude and repetition. This story runs on the assumption that the result of this scenario is a Littlepip who has become somewhat shy and socially awkward. I can also argue the that being with the soul of Princess Celestia for 10 years would make anypony more disposed towards love and toleration.

As for Princess Celestia, it is in her personality to let other ponies handle their own problems, based on her actions within the MLP show. However, it's clear from the beginning of Brick's interactions with Littlepip that Celestia did not approve of the commander's handling of the situation. The problem is, Brick is constantly teetering on the line of what can be tolerated or maybe even what is "legal". The few occassions Celestia does decide to voice her concerns is when she feels he has, in fact, crossed that line.

As for the NCR, if they own the SPP Tower, they would naturally want control over it, especially since it controls the weather, which is a fundamental part of Equestrian life. To a governing body like the NCR, Littlepip is a liability in a state of complete unaccountability. Even though Littlepip has operated the tower loyally for 10 years with no problems, that is no guarentee that something couldn't go wrong in the future, for which they would be held accountable for, since it would've happened in their tower. Littlepip's say in the matter is probably of no concern to the NCR and Littlepip has little to no understanding of the legal system that has been developed during her absence, meaning she would have little choice but to give them the benefit of the doubt. It's that or actively resist the NCR, which would conflict with the new less confrontational personality I am trying to give Littlepip. The only real issue here is why it took them so long to occupy the tower, which is currently being explained by the story.

One other thing I'd like to foreshadow is that Littlepip's personality will indeed develop into something different over the course of the story. One problem with sequels is developing an already developed character. Thankfully, Littlepip has had 10 years to "regress" into somepony who can be redeveloped. Please be patient with the new Pip until she has been given a chance to rediscover her indepenence."

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JetWave In reply to king-koder [2014-11-03 22:51:26 +0000 UTC]

But if the tranquilizing were done through the needle, I assume it's a chemical substance (duh). Wouldn't it just be burned along with the pony while in her veins? The fire wasn't some kind of harmless death simulator where it made you feel pain for the sake of feeling it. It destroys the object with fire before building it up again in this new location using fire. It's only used by ponies as a last resort and were never meant to be used by ponies at all. But it's true that at the end of things where they have materialized again, the results show it as harmless. But that doesn't mean it doesn't burn the subject alive including everything both outside and inside the pony. I seriously doubt you wouldn't wake up trying to scream during that process. A magical spell would make more sense for protection against something like this. 

Either way, the fact it doesn't make enough sense isn't the thing really bothering me. I could let it slip because hey, it's just one detail. It's the fact that the fire was treated as such a non-issue. Hell, if somebody read this comic without reading the source material first they would've shrugged it off as a regular teleportation spell. There isn't even any hint about it originally being painful and a big deal at the end of FOE. The comic doesn't set any reason for that needle being use what-so-ever other than to make the NCR seem like even bigger jerks. 

I also have a strong feeling the reason Homage only visits the tower twice a year is because of how incredibly painful it is. If it really was so easy she would most likely visit way more often than that. 

Despite the hint that Homage knows about Lil'pip leaving but no one else, I still feel like it's a bad way to go. Several high up in the NCR knows and obviously Spike, but once again it feels like it's made up to be nothing special. She's never seen green grass with her own eyes before. She's never touched the world. Her friends should've been there, or in the very least she should've expected them to be, depending on if this really is her getting out of the tower safely. Brick gave quite the impression in the wrong direction otherwise. 

I can get behind your explanation for why she has changed, but what she has changed into still doesn't sit right with me. Using your logic she should probably have a hard time leaving the tower for other reasons as well, such as power. She has shown weakness towards such before. After so long by the controls, it must feel odd to not be able to see absolutely everything (as long as it's outside) at any given time. But if that's something you're going to touch on, it has more opportunities to show later too. 

Why the NCR would believe that what she has to say is of no concern is beyond me. Why they would claim the tower to be theirs when they can't even enter the thing would be nearly beyond me as well, but it's a stereotypical selfish type of government so in that regard it seems to make enough sense. There is only one way into the tower and that is through the breath of a dragon who is very close to her. Way more closer to her than to the NCR no doubt. To get out of the tower you'd have to go the same way again, but only if the immortal, indestructible tower with Celestias soul inside it allows it. I have no doubts that Celestia is a lot closer to Littlepip than the NCR, either. If the NCR did something stupid, they would be in deep trouble. If Littlepip would've wanted to, she would probably have the power to keep her position no matter what anyone says anyway. She shouldn't be treated as a nobody, but rather as someone with a lot of power. Because that's the position she's in. 

For sitting alone with a computer screen and a soft bed for 10 years she sure doesn't seem to know much. Why wouldn't Littlepip have an understanding of the NCR's legal system? Did she play Chess with Celestia whenever she wasn't out of it every day for 10 years? She has had plenty of time to learn the ways of the NCR but not only that, she's literally watched as it's been made and put into action. It's not like she traveled in time as if starring in Click. She certainly shouldn't be such a stranger to it, especially when she supposedly were one of Gawd's inspirations from the beginning. 

Personally I don't think regressing her and emptying her of character would've been needed to grow her again. I have a hard time seeing positive effects from it. If you wanted to grow a new character from nothing then maybe an actually new character would've fit the bill better. But I haven't seen nearly enough of this version yet to make any real judgement. Maybe it's not nearly as bad as my mind makes it, but from what I've seen so far that's what I'm getting from it. I know I'm not the only one who feels the same. So eh, I'll just keep being a bit skeptical about it. It's better to be pleasantly surprised. Though I'd like to have said that you made me feel a lot better about the future of the comic and I thank you for that. 

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kahas In reply to Lordoffantasy [2014-10-29 01:19:53 +0000 UTC]

I didn't read FOE.
Why, exactly ?

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king-koder In reply to tigreanpony [2014-10-27 17:26:04 +0000 UTC]

The NCR is aware that combining Spikes dragonfire with ponies lives is very dangerous.

There is a special tranquilizer used by the NCR that quickly numbs and knocks out the pony so the conscious pain they experience while going through a dragonfire portal is minimal.

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Kyronea In reply to king-koder [2015-02-07 14:35:55 +0000 UTC]

Ah, okay, I was wondering how you'd explain that. I'm totes okay with that explanation. Although I do wonder if they are working on a method that does NOT involve dragonfire.

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Alancar2 In reply to tigreanpony [2014-10-27 13:04:31 +0000 UTC]

If you see the show, when Spike uses its fire on a parchment it seems to turn to ash, but it comes out on the other side intact. Same thing must happen to people, they are burned but then come out on the other side intact.

Which makes it unpleasant, but not actually dangerous.

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Hopalongtom In reply to Alancar2 [2014-10-27 17:00:05 +0000 UTC]

Well still dangerous, there's likely some risk to it still!

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SuperBigMac In reply to Alancar2 [2014-10-27 16:58:01 +0000 UTC]

Unpleasant, liable to kill you via heart attack if you're not careful/prepared, and also puts you through the aether for however long it takes for the 'ashes' to reassemble. Not to mention excruciatingly painful, I think.

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Gordon-Weedman In reply to KingArthur5 [2014-10-27 16:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Brick-to-the-head would be better.

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