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It seems there has been alot of buzz about Derpy being "fixed". I saw the New version of Derpy in "The Last Round-Up" and I do admit it didn't settle well with me. I still enjoyed the original. I didn't like the reason why they had her change. It didn't seem at all offensive in my opinion. When I first saw the scene in the animatic, I literally burst with joy. But I had a feeling that it might not settle with some fans and some people. Especially since people already have their own version of Derpy and people might get the wrong idea of her character.
Its not often that cartoons show fan content. Cause sometimes when you include Fan content, it usually can result to something negative (to fans or to others). And sometimes it also endangers the identity/essence of the show. Or if people like it, they will probably expect a lot more.To the point they might expect TOO much. So you could imagine my surprise when they decided to name Derpy and give her a voice.
Derpy has became more than just some fancy Easter egg in the show. She's became an Icon, a symbol to the fans of MLP:FIM. Though Derpy was created in a studio, her character was created by the fans.Β Β You can probably say that she represents all Bronies everywhere. Fans have enjoyed Derpy whenever they see her in the background until the point when she talked. The entire studio loves her as well. I was there in one of those Livestream chatrooms when people first heard her talk. It was quite entertaining how happy people were. So its no surprise to see people get really upset by this.
In a way, I understand why majority of fans are upset but blaming, pointing fingers and throwing hate around is not the way to do this. You're forgetting your own motto "Love and Tolerance". You bronies are one of inspiration and our greatest achievement. Don't sully your name by spreading Hate and intolerance. Remember, Tolerance is not the same as acceptance. If you are upset with something, display it in a more positive way. You'll get your message across much better than lashing it out with hate. Show some respect. Show some humility.
Oh I also want to address on a artist name Yamino. I've heard that she has been garnered a lot of hate by the Brony Community due to her not liking Derpy's portrayal. Let it be known, that she had NOTHING to do with the sudden change. She expressed an opinion on Derpy. That is all. She did not ask me to do this or anyone on the staff. I had to say this because the hate she's been receiving is unnecessary. So leave her be.
Also don't spam notes and messages to the people who work on the show. You're probably not going to get much out of it.
On the issue on Derpy whether she'll have the same Derp face expression and stuff. The show will still go on and I hope you will continue to support the show. Though Derpy is a great character, she is not essentially the reason why the show is awesome (though she is one of the Reasons). If Derpy never existed on that fateful scene in the first episode, would MLP be a bad show? Remember MLP is a great show because for what it is. I didn't know about Derpy until someone from the Studio pointed it out. I hope you'll still enjoy the show no matter what happens.
I hope this message will ease some of your minds. Thank you.
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Aaand further proof you didn't actually read what I typed. Ah well. Your opinion is your opinion, and I see you will not sway from your views on the matter (fair enough, since I'm not going to change mine, either). Any further discussion will just serve to further entrench ourselves in our opinions, and likely will not add anything of value to the subject, so I think I'm gonna leave things be.
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Clumsy and cross eyed =/= mentally handicapped
Whether you truly believe she's 'mocking the handicapped' or not, haven't you noticed that there are more people without disabilities complaining that people with them?
If I was disabled, I would be glad that there was a character like that. I'd be happy to see a pony that showed similar traits to myself.
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A handicapped Pony in and of itself isn't offensive. Neither is a clumsy Pony. The problem is when the clumsy Pony 1) has a voice that sounds like a stereotype of mental retardation and 2) is called Derpy, which is often used on the internet to mean 'retarded'.
If you were, for example, black, it would be great to see more black characters on TV. But not if those black characters act out racist stereotypes.
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One thing I say: Bronies do not think they own the show, that is why they react to strongly when things go awry in it, they are painfully aware that they do not own it.
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That's still problematic--they're 'painfully aware' they don't own it, but that pain implies they think they should--they think because... they're adults? they're men? they buy the toys? Why is it?
My Little Pony has never been a show for them, yet the writers already made an entire music video shouting out to you. They gave two different characters their fandom names. And they got mother-frocking Q himself to play the reality-bending trickster griffon thing.
But Bronies are still unsatisfied. There are shows whose TARGET audience doesn't get as much fanservice as Bronies have gotten, but Bronies feel they're entitled to more.
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You are lying to yourself if you think so. Sadly such self deceit is a confirmation bias so your assumptions only serve to irritate yourself.
But each to their own.
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...What?
No seriously. What you typed is meaningless. Don't use psychology terminology you don't understand.
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Psychological*
And clearly it is not me here who lacks understanding.
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It's easy to take potshots, but I've yet to see an argument (let alone a good one) as to why Hasbro is in the wrong.
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They aren't, I never even intended to claim such. Is that where your hostility roots from? You are in the mindset of "how dare you disagree with me" when all I did was to state my own opinion on the situation and how I saw it?
Matter of fact is that Hasbro did its darnedest to find a good middle ground which was more then I would even have expected them to do. People were upset however and I understand why, which still does not mean I agree with that sentiment and my personal opinion is that Derpy was not an offensive character and if you know what Amy Keating Rogers had in mind to begin with you would understand it better perhaps yourself too.
Link is here [link] In the off chance that you actually do give a crap about this issue and are not just trolling here.
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I'm sorry, then; a lot of Bronies are responding to this very badly and I unfairly lumped you in with that group. The personal attacks on Yamino and the declarations of Hasbro/HUB's demise do piss me off. It has nothing to do with me being disagreed with, but the fact that there are so-called fans of this show behaving terribly.
And to clarify, I think it's fair to say that many don't mean anything ableist. 'Derpy', as best I can tell, originated in South Park as an exclamation a character made when getting into clumsy mishaps. The problem is, the term has changed. It's used in an ableist manner by many on the internet. If that were the only issue, then it might be overlooked, but on top of that Tabitha St. Germain gave the character a voice that sounded like a stereotype of a mental handicap--and then patronizingly dismissed the concerns of an actual handicapped fan. They acted without sensitivity: that's my main point.
Now, agree with this reasoning or not, it doesn't particularly matter. My biggest issue, and the reason for my anger, is the reaction and behavior of the tangential Brony audience who have already received loads of fanservice, and their haste vilify Hasbro and those who've raised the concerns.
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Um... I realize I'm new here, but I couldn't help but stumble across this journal after trying to find MLP pictures for my younger sister. I don't want to come off as a leech replying to a conversation between you and GuyRandom, but I was a tad compelled to raise my voice in the matter after reading through both of your views.
I'm fond of My Little Pony, though admittedly not as fanatically as bronies. 
Though, I do have to agree with you. Bronies do intimidate me sometimes.
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I certainly don't think anybody had malicious intentions with the episode, though one doesn't have to intend to offend in order to offend. It's sad that this has transformed into such a mess.
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Though I wonder-- this is curiosity, I assure you-- is the brunt of the controversy on just Derpy's voice then? 
It is troubling this situation, but even as I've grown to like Derpy, one has to recall that the show was aimed at young girls in the first place and not quite the bronies.
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It's a two-edged sword. If it had just stayed in fandom and maybe on Hub's facebook? I don't think there would have been a huge problem. But the fact that it appeared in the show has brought them under scrutiny. Maybe they would have had less of a point if not for the voice, who knows.
But the end result is, Hasbro has a vested interest in protecting its brand from even APPEARING to give offense, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if this blow up causes a hell of a lot stricture rules about what sorts of Bronyservice the team can get away with.
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Oh ya right! We were laughing at Derpy. And that's why we want her change back, to laugh at her. Sure that makes sense.
I haven't hear a single fan being offended by Derpy's character, only soccer moms and haters posing as soccer moms hating and being intolerant.
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You haven't been looking, then.
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You have been looking too hard...
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Must be a very tiny minority to find, since Derpy was made and loved by the huge majority of fans.
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the man is trolling you :3. Dont feed the trolls.
Ive given him a nice dose of psychology to think about
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A majority of Bronies, maybe. I guess you just fucking forgot the fact that the majority of Friendship is Magic fans are small children who never heard the Pony called Derpy until the episode in question.
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Nice f-bomb "I'm the mature one."
Small children wouldn't even know or care what Derpy meant, to them it would be just a name.
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This is the internet. People swear here--especially in discussions where a bunch of entitled manchildren are demanding their abelist characterization of a My Little Pony be made canon.
I mean even if you disagree with the premise that Derpy is abelist--which to a certain degree is right, considering the term originated as meaning 'klutz'...
You still must see that Hasbro and HUB have a vested interest in not even APPEARING to be offensive? You understand that controversy is not good for their bottom line when small children are involved? That HUB does not want to be the network that gets remembered as making a cartoon where they taught kids to laugh at the retarded pony?
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* Implying that over 90% of modern cartoons are not stereotype based and involve eighter stupid or less intellectual greedy or biased characters.
Well played Sir Well played!
What' s your next card?
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I question the idea that Derpy is supposed to mentally disabled. I thought she merely seemed *slightly* slow, and clumsy, in that episode. She's a far cry from the mentally-disabled children that shows like South Park parody. She's even a far cry from Patrick Star. With all due respect, you might be part of the tiny minority who are looking for an issue that doesn't really exist. And, as Hasbro has discovered, overreacting to the outcry of a few can cause more problems that it solves.
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Whiny Bronies aren't a problem for Hasbro. The national news catching wind of the controversy would.
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Ya, clearly I'm a man-child shooting vulgar insults at you.
Derpy does NOT appear offensive. There have been goofy looking characters in the past in many other cartoon shows, and they were never shot down.
No one in this world would laugh AT Derpy anymore then they would laugh AT Pinky Pie or any other pony. To honestly believe small children were made sad by Derpy's appearance is to demonize reality.
HUB will only be remembered as another company who bent over for the few intolerant haters, ruining something that was a great cartoon history moment.
A hasbeen company that will never do anything great again.
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You really don't understand the issue at all, or you're being deliberately obtuse.
Calling a character in a children's cartoon 'Derpy', a word commonly used as an abelist slur--whether YOU meant it that way or not--is bad news. It hurts real, human people who suffer from mental disabilities, and it draws the ire of media watchdogs who could get the show so much bad publicity that Hasbro might feel they're better off cancelling it to save face and risk further damaging the brand. That's an extreme case, but it's possible. Not offending people is in your best interest as a fan of the show.
Imagine this: in the background of a children's show, a character appears. He's a black man with cornrows, and though he's never named or given dialogue, the fandom latches onto him. And they give him a fandom name: Ghetto Bob. They don't actually dislike black people, they just thoughtlessly used a name that many will find offensive. Now would any sane studio then see the fan reaction and decide to bring that character into the cast and call him Ghetto Bob?
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Also ever heard of the saying " laughing with you not at you' ? You probably haven' t, because if you did you would not make such silly statements and keep repeating the thing about it being originally made for kids.
You know walt disney once said;
If you only aim for kids you are destined to fail.
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Walt Disney never had to deal with fucking Bronies
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As said before derpy comes from the word derp. The word derp originates from some old 1990' s movie. essentially being used for somone who does somthing stupid. after this it has been made into a meme that everyone uses as a short way to discribe themselves when doing somthing stupid and realizing it.
Problem?
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Problem?
Faggot originated as a word meaning 'small stick' or 'cigarette'. But you wouldn't call an effeminate male Pony 'Faggot Hooves', now would you? Well, if you're from 4chan I suppose you might.
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But the word derp has never been used as the word faggot, and never has there been a group of people enlisted with the word derp as it was with the word faggot. Therefore those two are uncomparable,for the word faggot has effectively been changed to a dubble meaning and has been an insult for well over 20 years if not more. While when you "derp" you did somthing stupid and realized it. Thats how both the internet and a growing number of people in real life use it.
Care to take another throw 
A fine night to you.
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No, Derpy is NOT a common word you HEAR, it's an internet slang that was made only in recent years, used as a meme to express an emotion.
NO ONE in reality goes about to mental kids and calls them "Derpy!" It doesn't happen! The word is not even universally known!!
The word "Derpy" was NEVER an insult!!
You are demonizing the reality of the issue, and if you can't accept that, I have nothing else to say to you.
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dear brony you are quite confused with how our friend derpy's used.
we do not mock low intellect,
nor poke fun at mental defect.
the clumsy moves that derpy makes remindus of our own mistakes.
teaching us to laugh and say,"i'll get it right another day."
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It was sarcasm... which I thought was pretty obvious...
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that was a CHEERFUL reply, silly filly!!
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*Ahem
No one is laughing at Derpy, So "Why do we want her back?" Well, easy to say that she is a fan-created character. Putting her in the show basically tells us that the animators of such an amazing show care for us. We / they didn't just put Derpy in so we could insult her for being "Cross-eyed". Her image basically conveys a message. Anyways, who ever said "derp" or being cross eyed is insulting?
Here's a quote from a fic. βWe love Derpy, because she reminds us that no matter how bad things seem, or how badly we mess up, you have to stay positive. Nothing seems to go her way, but that never stops her from trying her best.β
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Thank you for the point, but ya, I was being sarcastic?
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Actually that message was intended @Guy Random ,though I thought this would be some addition to your comment. I just wanted point that out about Derpy.
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There is a chance he might not see it unless you directly comment to him though.
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I saw it. And I do know exactly why we want her back. I love that gray mare and how she is undefeatable helpful strong individual who doesn't let her failings to bring her down.
Resilience is a virtue.
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I think you'll be happy to know that the bronies who were harassing Yamino about Derpy are... still harassing her. Yep... a lot of good this did. Well... okay... some of them have stopped and apologized. Honestly, if I were her, I'd tell all the bronies who apologized to me to screw off. You can't send death threats and hateful comments, apologize for it and get off scottfree. And as for this whole Derpy issue... why is it an issue, to begin with? It's just a stupid cartoon character who wasn't even canon to the series. Her name was made up by fans. Her backstory made up by fans. I have no idea why you guys thought it would be a good idea to make her official. Just look what's happened... this should NOT be an issue.
Now see... there are shows I'm a fan of where the characters were LITERALLY killed off. They weren't redesigned with different voices. They were killed off.
Here's a good example. In the anime/manga Death Note, there was an extremely popular character named L. He actually served a purpose. He actually helped progress the series along, unlike Derpy who has done nothing to progress the series. Anyway, that character I mentioned... he died about halfway through the series. Were the fans pissed? Yeah. Did we make a scene about it? No. Why? Because we got over it. Now grow up and get over Derpy! She's not going to be changed back!
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You are intitled to your opinion as others are to theirs, just because you do not see somthing in a character and do not feel a need to fight for it doesn' t mean others don' t.As for now 43000+ signatures and counting 
Haters gonna hate.
A fine day to you Sir.
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HATERS
H- Having
A- Anger
T- Towards
E- Everyone
R- Reaching
S- Success
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Doesn't matter if the stupid thing has 40,000 signatures or 1 million signatures. She's not going to be changed back. And calling me a hater really does not make you look good... like... at all. Especially on the page of someone who works on the show. That's just showing them that they truly have created a horrible fanbase who cannot accept that not everyone's going to like the show or the characters. Sure, you said that I'm entitled to my opinion, but then you turned around and called me a hater. Mhmm... that makes sense...
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Well didn' t think you would be so buzzed about it
And you seem to not like backslash when it hits you in the face eighter...
Thruth is just like you are intitled to an opinion so is everyone else whether you like it or not :3. I can care less about your judgement on me. As for me i don' t judge you. For i do not know you. I am simply stating my opinion. And there was nothing bad about my last post that sould get you all buzzed up. As said because you don' t feel like fighting for somthing like that doesnt mean others dont. And If you want everyone to think the same and act the same about theese kind of issues ...then sorry bud your on the wrong planet. Not everyone is a pushover 
A fine day to you Sir
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why dont we take derpy:
and if she's not allouwed in the show anymore,
push her into fanart so shell still be
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It's still not fair that other profanity shows like Total Drama Island, The Regular Show, And Amazing World of Gumball get to go free from the offenders. Im not going to sit idly by while my favorite show gets torn apart by offenders and soccer moms while there are other cartoons that actually are OFFENSIVE!
Hasbro, you better learn from these things. Remember we are the reason you guys are alive and running. We may be small, but together we are very strong. We will show our disappointed (I felt the response they said Derpy is here to stay was a lie) in ways other than empty bottled threats. I am not saying we strike arms and hunt down Hasbro. Why attack the company that just submitted to the offenders. We need to strike a different way. I'm sure you fellow bronies can figure out what I mean. *Register Ching*
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Riddle me this, if for years Disney has tolerated the existence of Goofy and even Dopey, how come those characters havent suffered any alterations? Why prey on an innocent mare and force her to be normal? Equestria is about equality so itΒ΄s normal whether there should be fat or skinny ponies, tall, handsome, ugly or why not, even ponies with other sexual preferences, just a thought. But just to let us know that the lines have been blurred to say that this is just a kidΒ΄s show. You wanna know whoΒ΄s completely retarded and offensive? Barney The Dinosaur and the Teletubbies, I found the Muppets in my childhood to be a far more inteligent show that promotes equality.
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Goofy and Dopey were made in a time period that did not have as many restrictions on society as they do now. They had become iconic characters over a LONG set of years, and therefor won't be changed. Derpy Hooves is a new character, Derpy has no relation to the show, and in general was just a catering to the /b/idiots that shouldn't have happened. She should have been corrected silently and that was that. It was a bad move for Hasbro to even bother giving the meme community something to brag about.
And I'd be more offended that the character "representing the fans" is portrayed as a retard.
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