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Market in Canton
bad land for cats.... and dogs....
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Well, I think that the whole reason vegans and vegetarians eat salads instead of animals is because the vegetables don't have brains or nerves to suffer with. I don't see how not eating animal because you don't want them to be slaughtered and eating salad instead makes you a hypocrite. I'd like to hear your thoughts behind that logic, because it doesn't make sense to me. Vegetables don't suffer. 
On a side note, I think the stupid comment is the one that came just before yours, where the person said: "Obama's mid day snack no doubt. 
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My point is people do this because plants have no way of reacting in a visible way.
There are a few, however (Mimosa pudica for instance) which show a certain chemotropism and hormone-like modulated reactions to harmful factors. So, it may not squeal or look at you with teary eyes but make no mistake, plants are living organisms.
I am perfectly fine with being a vegan for personal, health reasons or religious ones. To each, his own. But people that think that if they don't eat a bucket of chicken wings have done a great many deal to keeping chickens from beings slaughtered are so horribly wrong in their ignorance. My father has been a butcher for over 30 years now and he always told me: "Son, I don't KILL animals. I sacrifice them so that people can eat. I try to make their end quick and painless" To this day, I still haven't seen a guy with more love towards animals. And they can sense it. I've seen freaking wild boars come along and eat corn from my dad's hand. Point is, we ought to stop animal abuse in any form but sacrificing animals (if done properly) is not one.
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Thank you for replying to my message in a civilized way. Not everyone on the internet is civilized.
As before, I agree with most of what you said, but I still believe that saying people being vegetarians/vegans because they don't want animals to suffer are hypocrites is a very extreme statement. Saying what you said about how people wouldn't eat salad if the salad squealed when eaten... People also wouldn't step on rocks if they cried out in pain when you stepped on them. But they don't. And that's the key. It's not about what could happen in an alternate version of reality. It's about what does happen in the current on, and this reality plants have no way whatsoever of experiencing any suffering of any kind when they are damaged, destroyed or consumed. Saying a small number of plant species can display reactions to harmful things doesn't do much for that either. Just because you can detect body damage doesn't necessarily mean you're suffering because of it. If that were the case, even robots could suffer, because even computers have the ability to detect damage and defined harmful agents within their systems.
And just so you know, I don't think meat is murder or eating it is wrong or that one animal's suffering means more than another's like most people do. That's why most people think it's horrible to eat a dog because of all the suffering, but not horrible to eat a chicken, even if the chicken suffers more. Now that's hypocritical. But I still think your statement about hypocrisy running high in vegans is very extreme statement. I don't particularly like vegans though. I think they're a little crazy.
In fact, I actually think that if the animals are raised properly, you could practically be doing them a favor by raising them for slaughter. I think about what kind of life they'd live in the wild, and what kind of death they'd die out there. Now, some animals I believe want to roam much more than others, and won't like being cooped up at all no matter how well cared for they are, and others wouldn't care because they wouldn't get around much anyway, so if it's something that couldn't really stand captivity well, then keeping them might bother them a lot, and they'd live a happier life free, but beyond captivity, when we come to inevitable issue of death, when they die in the wild, what kind of death would they die? A humane one? I doubt it. They may not live longer lives being raised for meat, but they'd die much better deaths by human hands than the ones they'd die by nature's if they were wild, that's for sure. As long as the raising and killing is done properly.
Your ending point is one I can totally agree with though, and I think think that if someone thinks that by not eating chicken they have saved a chicken, then that person is kind of ignorant. That chicken was already raised to die, and was gonna get killed for meat regardless. All they did was not support the activity with THEIR money. Maybe they're saving a chicken in the future, but probably not.
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Exactly. I am a vegetarian and I do not want to eat any meat or fish. I feel would bad for eating something that either has eyes, blood, nerves, and other things. I'm unsure as to if vegetables might be able to feel something.(its just silly me 
Though, I for one, think this is no different than cutting up and displaying chickens, cattle, and other creatures. Its the circle of life and a way of living. I accept that. I do not want to eat meat or fish myself, but I will not force anyone to not eat it either.
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I just have to point out that it has been proven that the "freshly mown grass smell" is a panic pheromone emitted by the blades of grass. I'm really not trying to start anything.
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You should be careful what you say on Daily Deviations (Or dA's "Most Popular" ones too) if you don't want to start anything. I learned that the hard way and got long, angry messages in my Inbox! >_< Not this time though, 'cause all I did was ask for more of an opinion.
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I know; I've actually been on the site for close to seven years. Sometimes you can see if the person your talking to will be receptive and not freak out on you and those are the ones that (if I comment at all) I reply to. However, there are the sad, misguided people and the trolls. If I get a long rant in response I base it's merit on the grammatical correctness based on country of origin. >.<
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I had clicked on your icon before I left that reply. It says you've only been a deviant for a month. If I'd known it was actually 7 years I wouldn't have said that.
What you said there sounds like a good method, and I think about those things too.
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It's no problem. This is a relatively new account specifically for adoptables. I have two older ones. 
It's kept me out of trouble so far.
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Okay.
Yep, I watch out for deviants in certain situations. I saw your comment and your time on here and was thinking. 
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Haha, thank you for your concern; it's rather refreshing.
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Actually, it's true no doubt. If it's a living organism, then yeah, make sense.
Vegan or meat eater, you just can't win...
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Anything that was at one point alive communicated and reacted. I'll eat what I want and if something else decides to do the same and eat me then so be it. I'll get nomed by mushrooms in the end so I'm cool with it.
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Why thank you. Yours isn't so bad yourself.
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Whatever!! F'ing 'Panic Pheromone'
I'd like to point out that it has been 'proven' that some idiots will believe ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING they read!
Oh hey while im on the subject, did you know that it has been 'proven' by 'scientists' in Uzbekistan that if your a really good boy/girl for the whole year, on December 25th a little fat man with a long white beard will climb down your chimney and give you lots and lots of presents!!! How cool is that??
Honest its absolutely true!!! I read about it in a book a few years ago!...... so obviously it must be true!!
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I...didn't know that. That is amazing.
The sweet smell of fear, then, huh?
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Totally. America will be distraught...
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Or they might make dog eating a very acceptable thing.
What the guy does, people will follow. SMH
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(Omg That surprised me)
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That's a real dog. That someone has probably eaten by now, assuming at least that the photographer took this earlier in the day/week/month whatever.
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No, it's just cultural differences. It's really no different than eating a cow, pig, chicken, etc.
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I find this piece very interesting.
Its very easy to forget how fortunate we are that we don't have to see cats and dogs as food.
But, there are places that look at cows and goats as we look at our dogs.
This picture is no more as sick as the meat you buy at the store. Food is food.
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I was soo right when I saw this had a mature content!! I was thinking "Its going to be something grim and graphic, huh?" and I clicked on it, and there's a stomache hanging out of a poor dog! D:
Sooo sad, but I guess in some places, its a delacacy *sorry about the bad spelling. Almost the worst speller in the world ha /: *
Its just disturbing to see this since I have 2 dogs and 1 cat O.o
On the good side, I like how you used the black and white hehh
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I keep seeing these comments about how awful it is that these people have to resort to eating dogs or something due to scarcity of food or something else of similar nature. While that has been the case during hard times like war or whatever, dog meat is actually a traditional food in many areas of China and has been for thousands of years for the same reason that any other culture eats any sort of animal, it was available in large quantity. Dog meat still exists as a cuisine not because of scarcity of other sources of food or anything, but simply because to them, it is perfectly normal meat.
To anyone who may find this disturbing, in modern times most of China disagrees with this practice and it's not found in many places outside of rural Canton.
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thanks for your comment
but a member of DA has given to me this link... 
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That was pretty disturbing, not gonna lie.
That being said, western slaughterhouses have routinely done similar things to cattle or pigs or other livestock in regards to inhumane slaughter. Animal welfare groups and health regulations have worked to curb those practices and advocated for more humane slaughter methods and laws, but such standards are not always enforced even in the west. Rural China is still very much third world, kind of unfair to put so much heat on them for how they prepare their meat when first world nations aren't much better.
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You know, I'm tired of people saying that Asians eat dogs and I'm glad you said that. I help my friend out at her restaraunt and because she's Chinese the ridiculous things people say (other than "Hey! You're not Chinese!"). Like Asians aren't humans and have no feelings or anything and they say it right there in front of her.
I just wanna add that Africans eat dogs too.
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Clarify, the practice isn't found in many places in China outside of rural Canton. I don't know about non-chinese cultures that still eat dog.
In regards to the photo, I can certainly appreciate the photojournalism value as well as its thought provocation potential. To each his own, respect other cultures, and all that good stuff.
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i wanna taste it, ive already tried snake swine frogs badgers crickets catepillars the list goes on but not dog
aaah the things ill get to eat when i travel
NEVER HOOMAN tho
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This is photojournalism at its best and I can't understand what people complaining about.
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Nice shot - it definitly makes people think about what is food according other to other cultures....hmmm...takes like chicken
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