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Well... I had this idea stuck in my head for quite some time. I think it was inspired by a comment? Not sure, it dates back to the before-the-whole-portfolio-mess September so yeah. But seriously... Assassin AND a pirate? I'm not impressed. Sure, it's cool, but kinda far fetched. As they say, you can serve only one master, that being either you yourself and selfish pirate life OR the cause. And I don't know if any of you've noticed, but the whole Brotherhood stopped being a thing after the first game, which had probably the most self-centered protagonist of all. Still, there was the Creed, feathers that actually meant something besides an annoying collectible, a hierarchy in which we had to fit in somewhere because we were a part of it. And then we get Ezio... Don't get me wrong, I love Ezio and his ass is still a very close call to Altair's, but his motivation was revenge, pretty much - some save-the-world thrown in as a bonus. And as the games progressed, he was only getting more and more badass... which made him less. Liiike, with Altair we had some serious character building. And Ezio kinda barges in, kills them all with double blades, his pistol and a crossbow, then single-handedly rebuilds the Brotherhood. Yeah right. Catch me coz I'm gonna swoon.
I'm not even gonna comment on Connor. I'm NOT. Poor thing, he had such a potential.
Now, I haven't played ACIV yet. Let's say, for personal reasons. So I might be utterly wrong, though I don't suspect I am. After all, the timeframe makes sense and all that XDDD
This shit took so long. I was pissed at first but then I realized my usual comics have one third or fourth of the characters I had to draw here... so yeah, kinda made sense for it to take longer. Still, took longer than it should have. Not to mention a blue screen of death that happened in the meantime... quite lovely. Quite fucking far from a checkpoint. Oh well, I made peace with the fact I won't get enough sleep today anyway.
If you have any issues with details being off or sloppy, please shut the fuck up. These outfits gonna kill me someday.
PS: I'm so friggin proud of Edward's face in the last panel XD Not exactly what I had in mind, but...
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the expressions are dead center
they are sO PERFECT
LOVELY JOB DONE ON THIS
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The expresions of all of them are beautiful, specially love the Altair in second panel and Connor in third.
Hahaha they not let Haytham talk, poor! I like him pretty much!
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Lilay..... youve just outdone yourself
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Awww... thank you ^_^ 
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Looks like Connor is going to kill his grandfather...this should be fun.
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Jaysus - uwielbiam twój styl rysunku
Ticz mi, mentore.
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Dzięki! Co do ticzingu... Ja po prostu rysuję jak umiem i jakoś wychodzi xD Nie potrafię inaczej.
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A niech cie >:<
Zazdrośnie strzeżesz swoich tajemnic.
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Przecie wszystko widać jak na dłoni xD Niby mogłabym sklecić jakiś step-by-step, ale wiele by to nie wyjaśniło bez zrozumienia tego jak ja pojmuję to, co rysuję. Nie ma w tym filozofii, proces jest pewno ten sam co u wielu innych. Jedyne co by mogło pomóc to właśnie tłumaczenie, na co zwracać uwagę - anatomia, detale lineartu i pierdoły. Ja naprawdę magii nie robię, korzystam tylko z wiedzy co nagromadziłam przez lata i jakiegoś tam ogaru rysowania w ogóle.
Najkrócej - obserwuj, co ci się podoba i kradnij. Mój "styl", jeżeli mogę to tak nazwać, jest miksem wszystkiego, co mi się podobało u innych podzielone przez moje umiejętności artystyczne. A więc zaobserwowałam jak taki a taki artysta podchodzi do kompozycji, jak siaki rysuje oczy - i przerobiłam to na własne, często kombinując elementy od wielu artystów w jeden. Poza tym podstawa - gesture drawing, anatomia. Bez zrozumienia jak działa ciało nie da się dobrze rysować. I w tych rysunkach nie o ładność chodzi ale o to, jak ty to widzisz. Jak rozumiesz.
Rysując, nie rysuj postaci dla postaci a to, co chcesz pokazać. Opowiedz historię. Moim celem nie jest "narysować Connora, Ezia, Altaira i Haythama". Ja rysuję pozę i gest właściwą dla danej postaci - a to, że to de facto jest rysunek tej postaci, to zwykły przypadek.
Z tego co tam u ciebie widzę, to świetnie sobie radzisz z rysowaniem nawet mocno skomplikowanych strojów (powiedziałabym nawet, że lepiej ode mnie), rzadko jednak zdarza się jakaś ciekawsza poza. A mówiąc poza nie mam na myśli pozowania, a jakąś akcję czy reakcję ze strony postaci. Moje komiksy są śmiesznie nie dlatego, że wymyśliłam fajny tekst i umiem narysować Altaira. Gra aktorska, emocje, ekspresja. No i oczywiście jakaś historia, jakiś powód za tym wszystkim - niekoniecznie znany przez obserwatora.
Tyle mam do nauczenia, bo każdy artysta tak naprawdę jest samoukiem. Reszta należy do ciebie, jeżeli faktycznie zechcesz się tym zająć.
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Za dużo tekstu - nie chciało mi się tego czytać :3
Co do póz u mnie - problemem jest chyba bariera psychiczna, by pokazać postać w pełnej krasie, i żadna ręka/noga/plecy nie przysłaniało czegoś XD
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Awesome, but in the first panel he is missing a finger i think.
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He's supposed to..... lol.. Assassin's in his era cut off their left ring finger, almost in a sense marrying themselves to the assassin cause as the hidden blade extended out where their left finger normally would be.
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Oh, interesting I didn't know that.
I haven't played any assassin's creed game yet but I plan on doing so as soon as I'm old enough.
Thank you for the information!
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Next time, it has to be an assassin pirate ninja robot.
It has to.
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Nice comic Edward's face expression in the last panel is funny, and a little familiar might I add.
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you talking to me or LiayM
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give me back my rum you dirty pieces of shite please ill let you sail me ship THE IRISH MAIDEN shes a mighty fine vessel..........just kidding i dont have a ship she died trying to sace Capitain Edward Thach or BLACKBEARD if you prefer
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im a pirate assassin nothing is true everything is permited unless it involves money guns swords knives or women oh cant forget the rum ..........why is the rum gone
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This made me laugh WAYYY harder than it should have, haha.
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Thank you, my dear. I happen to love yours as well : ) It's so... compact, so to say. I'm still struggling to achieve this in my drawings.
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Ja piedziele, kocham cię za to XD
Normalnie mi tydzień uratowałaś, nie śmiałam się tak od dawna!
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I find it interesting that it seems like everyone has gotten disappointed with AC, wheres I never really have. There was some gameplay stuff, like sailing a ship was hard in AC3 but it's a lot easier in AC4. AC1 was the hardest of them and I still ended up playing it three times (for various reasons such as losing my save game) Storywise I have loved every moment of it, and one of the things I love most about it is the locations. It's the reason I wish to go to Italy over any other country. I mean actually exploring real places, climbing buildings that actually exist. I even love the collectables, because I get to explore the entire area. I think you should play AC4 so you can really know what you're talking about when you talk about it, and know what everyone else is talking about too. I love all of the main guys, but Ezio is my favorite because I played AC2 first. This comic is still funny though 
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oh gosh you captured all their expressions perfectly, I love it
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I hope you manage to play the game soon, is pretty enjoyable, to tell the truth I was also a bit skeptic, about the assassin-pirate combination, but is okay, and I'm pretty sure that you will see why he doesn't happen, for me at least the Brotherhood, was coming apart after some time Ezio's death, don't know when exactly but it was already pretty bad and it truly never recover, I guess being worldwide didn't help the assassins...
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This comic was too epic ! XD I laughed so hard. Very caricatural of course, but it wouldn't be funny otherwise. But at the same time...it raised lots of thoughts...
Haha, when in ACB you can randomly go in Rome and recruit people to make them Assassins I facepalmed. XD Like : "hello ! I have no idea who you are ! what you did ! and what you could do ! but come with me ! I need some pawns to defeat the Borgia ! Let's pretend you are an Assassin, okay ? At best in a few generations the Order will die out again in Italy because the people I recruted worshipped me and never really made the Creed part of themselves ! so once I'm gone, who cares anymore ?". On the other side....it's a GAME !!! it can't and is unallowed to be a book or a movie.
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Honestly ? I don't get what the problem is with the pirate period. What were pirates ? People who wants to live freely (or have a life at all), out of the laws, some are banished, some are criminals, a lot just random people who had nothing better to do and didn't want to die in a corner. That folklore about the pirates fights is way too overexaggerated. First of, they avoided conflicts as much as possible and used made up reputation and hoped the defenseless commercial ships would raise a white flag (a sign to say : "you can come we won't oppose you and you can take as much as you want"). Why ? Because...do you have any idea how fucking expensive it is to repair a ship ? Not to mention it's going over to "civilization" to find professionals repairer (or they can try to do it themselves and risk to sink without even getting attacked) and that is risking to be caught and hanged, so avoiding fights was the smartest idea. Also most of them never had a fighting training, it's all about practice (and the luck of actually surviving) - so getting to a military ship was mainly a stupid mistake from them and 99% of the time it was over for them - so apart from some bloodlust idiots most prefered not to fight at all. Beside, they never got THAT much money, historically speaking those becoming rich through piracy are almost inexistant. (ah and there was a third option for the commercial ships : throw everything over to "run" away and hence, unless the pirate ship was seriously damaged or there were few people on board trusted AND able to "drive" the ship, no, not a common knowledge among pirates - the ships themselves weren't interesting to pirates, it was what they carried - the pirate ship would simply take the things they throwed over, as it's what they are targeting anyway) Now, of course, some stood out, but a few don't make it for all. What scary, badass people they were indeed... Now, that's reality and that's why when I heard of ACIV being about piracy I found that interesting.
Now, why exactly do I don't see a problem between pirates and Assassins ? What do Assassins fight for ? To give the ability to people to choose their life (they don't tell people how to live their lives, but the Assassins themselves have a code that they don't impose on outsiders, logically) and not be imposed one like the Templars want. And what are pirates ? People who are trying to live their lives, who want to choose who they are, by living out of the laws (as said those "massacre" were in reality quite rare). So I actually was quite interested to see if ACIV would take that approach or not, or at best a middle one between folklore and reality (after all, it is a game, not a book, not a movie, even less a historical document). And an Assassin could prefectly pretend to be a pirate (that's called : cover). So nope, never quite understood the problem of this concept. NOW, what I imagined and the game itself are two different things, but I can't pretend I don't get the reason why they chose that approach.
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I think most people took it like this : Assassin's Creed ? Ah, yes, it's about Assassins ( and associated them to their Brotherhood) !!! And forgot the fact that "Assassin", in the title, is the genitive of the Creed, therefore the real subject is the Creed (ok, one must actually know what creed means and the fonction of the genitive, which is more than simply a mark of possession), the philosophy is what matters, the thing that should be looked at. The Creed is superior (I repeat...what REALLY matters) to the Brotherhood and not reversed as some people seem to think. A philosophy doesn't need a brotherhood to live on or be transmitted.
To me, each protagonist had a unique approach to the Creed and that's one of the points of the games.
Altair was there to introduce us to the philosophy of this Creed belonging to a(n) Order/Brotherhood. As we knew nothing of it, the game has to concentrate on it the most. Ironically, Altair is actually learning at the same time as the player (when he was supposed to know already). And he was the real one who brought the ruin upon the Brotherhood. Yes, Al Mualim was a traitor, but hey, at the same time it was the Golden Age of the Assassins (oh sweet irony), when he was gone, Abbas fucked it up after kicking Altair, also true...and Altair was able to avoid for it to fall apart, but it definitly wasn't as powerful as with Al Mualim. And then...comes the final blow...before dying Altair orders that the Assassins shouldn't all stay together but go all over the world to share their philosophy. How do you expect an Order which scattered itself all over the world to stay powerful as they don't even have a "main place" to turn to if there are trouble or are lost ? I understand the reasons why Altair purposely buried the Brotherhood (and no need of a Brotherhood for the Creed to still live on).
And after an introduction ? Well, it'd be pointless and boring to repeat it all over again. So what ? Well, as the game is about the Creed of the Assassins (it's the Creed that matters, not the Order/Brotherhood of the Assassins, so....let's see the different approaches and contexts (not only historically) we can come up with. And there comes the other characters.
With Ezio...who was indeed able to give a sense to the word "Order", but...apart from the old generation the new one merely followed him, not the Creed (amazing Mentor indeed...)....well, he has been prepared since his childhood, unknowinlgy, to become an Assassin. He'll have to enter it sooner as expected it, though, and that too he won't get it at first. The cloth didn't make him an Assassin, it's merely an heritage from his father (I doubt Assassin's materials can be found anywhere so better to transmit them), it's all those older Assassins who'll be around him, talk to him, make him think, teach him many things that will make him internalize the Creed and slowly making him an Assassin in the process. His revenge will turn into something else and he'll live by the Creed (but as a human he still can take stupid decisions, hey, no one is perfect). And no, he isn't exactly like an Assassin of Middle Age, but we know close to nothing of the Assassins after Altair's reform and that reform was there to change the Order (and therefore Assassins) from within (so the point of having a copy past ? that's saying : ah ! Al Mualim's Order was good, Altair was wrong !), not to mention nothing is static...around 200 years has passed, in every location the Assassins decided to live they surely developped their own version of the Order (purism attack ?).
Ok, after they chose someone who was destined to be an Assassin and was partly pre-formated, and will internalize the Creed, surrounded by wise Assassins. What approach of the Creed could we take ? Well, why not an even more extreme context ?
Connor...he's misunderstood. He knows nothing of the Creed, Assassins or Templars....and is taught and educated by an ex-Assassin who lost faith in the Creed (hence, he accepted to resign the Order, the Creed and him being an Assassin; the condition from the Templars to let him live.....remember how he will be the ONLY "Assassin" left until Connor insists to be formed, for various reasons) .... And Connor should become an Assassin, someone who has the Creed as his life philosophy, from such a man ? As someone who doesn't believe in God himself can't teach someone to have faith in God don't expect someone who has no faith in the Creed to make someone believe (and so make it part of himself) in the Creed. And if Achilles will indeed find faith back and tries to correct his "poor" education, it'll be too late (arrogance is a bitch !). So, Connor knows the Creed (like you know your course by heart but it hasn't become part of you and will therefore not stay with you, you just push it away once it's done; that's why he never says "nothing is true, everything is permitted" in the game, you can hardly find someone not believing in God - even if he had religion lessons at school - quoting the Bible to point out what he's saying) , but he never really could internalize it... With only one Assassin as reference, who turned his back to the Creed, he'll have to internalize the Creed on his own, alone, and in the hard way. And to me, he did learn by the end of the game. The ending is for me a way to show he has learned, not only about the Creed, but also about life, people, humanity and himself. (and to people who say from sratch to end all it was all about selfish revenge, I have many arguments to oppose, but hey, everyone can have his own interpretations, so those people can continue thinking that way, it doesn't matter, needless to say it's useless to impose your interpretation on me ?) So no, no Brotherhood here - even if Connor does recruit people, but he himself at that point had too many things to learn about the Creed to properly transmit it to others, but hey ! who knows what happens after the game ? (that's why I want a sequel lol) - but never was it the point of the games. The title, I repeat is Assassin'S CREED, not Brotherhood.
And then...comes Edward...an entirely different approach of the Creed again, even MORE extreme - by the approach, not the context - but that my dear, I'll keep quiet about as whether or not you'll play the game one day, it's not to me to spoil you, even less influence you (because no matter how much people want to pretend, hearing someone one is pre-formating your mind, and it's hard to go against that).
I'll end with this in case someone even wonders how I could come up with such an interpretation. The limit of an interpretation is yourself and only yourself. There can be as many interpretations as there are people (even the intention of the author doesn't matter, it's just one interpretation as the other, none superior, none inferior), a wrong interpretation is only an interpretation based on wrong datas. (most teachers are lazy though ^^ and to avoid to think, they impose only one interpretation and with time people will think there can be only one...............................................wait...Templars !!!! ....joking...)
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Firstly, thank you for writing such a thoughtful comment. I enjoyed your insight about pirates and your interpretation of the series. Food for thought you might say.
Still, I think pirates wanted to be FREE, genuinely free. Free from a cause as well. You see, being an Assassin is an obligation, you fight FOR people, for THEM to have a free life - but you are forced to fight this outrageous battle all your life, endanger yourself and your loved ones as well as jeopardize your chances for peaceful life afterwards.
Then again, pirates are FREE. Free to do what they want, free from any obligations. And that's why I think pirates and Assassins don't sit well - coz they're basically opposites! Pirate is fun and survival, no obligation. Assassins is constant fight with the "evil" pictured as Templars. Fighting for freedom doesn't mean being free. Sure, it's said that when you're doing what you love and/or think it's right you're free, but I don't think that true. If it were, you would be free to withdraw at any given moment... which, being an Assassin, you just can't do.
They way you say it, I could perfectly understand the pirate thing being just a cover for a true Assassin. However, that makes just a pirate-pretend and an Assassin under it - which is quite okay by me. But no, Edward is a pirate pirate - or is just being painted as one. I just... no.
Well, I can't say if it was Altair who ruined the Brotherhood. By failing the mission successfully he could have saved it, actually. I mean - the army he lead to the HQ's gates was basically wiped out in a blink of an eye... okay, it wasn't, but it was thinned out enough not to be such hard a fight. Then again, Assassins started dying massively when Al Mualim used to Apple, so in the end I'd give him the credit for ruining the Brotherhood. Were it not for his greed for power, none of this would have happened. You think things would've worked out differently if Altair managed to deliver the Apple in the proper way? If anything, he'd end up a puppet as well. All misury because of that one relict.
As for Altair suddenly becoming an oh-so-wise leader... I'm not very supportive of that part. So yeah, his decision in the end might have been a bad one. It also might have given Templars a hard time, given how now they lost the Assassin-free zones to the small rebellions against them. Maybe not too powerful, but they couldn't really feel safe anywhere anymore.
Once again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. It was really insightful and... enlightening, in a way. I never thought about it the way you do. Interesting point of view. Interpreting titles so literally might not often be a good idea so I'm still not quite sure where I stand in all of this, but I'm really glad to have encountered such an opinion.
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Well, yes, a pirate and an Assassin live differently, that can't be denied. But I can see why Assassins would use that as a cover or even help some pirates out (all this I say from my thoughts before playing AC4, my expectations/thoughts and the game itself are two different things)
Without Al Mualim's greed of power the Assassins of Masyaf would have been completely different (not brainwashed for example). XD And Altair wouldn't have done any Reform either. So everything would have been different. If Altair had succeeded at the beginning of the game things would also have been completely different. Sure, we can say it's linked to Al Mualim, but Abbas and Altair also had their roles; and the one who ordered the rest of the Assassins to go around the world is ultimately Altair.
He was old ! He was senile ! XD XD XD No, more seriously, considering how their state was before his death, keeping the Brotherhood in Masyaf or making them all go to one place would have been suicide, the Templars would have tracked them down and killed them all before they could establish a new Brotherhood. (beside, he has seen how blind Assassins could become, following the Brotherhood - and its leader - rather than the Creed) So dispatching them was the best that could be done at that time. Though...without at least a form of Brotherhood, I don't think Assassins could effectively fight an organised Order like the Templars, for now all they could do was "freezing" their attempts of control but never did they really hit them hard. (but I do think the Creed should matter more than the Brotherhood)
Well, isn't it the title's job to tell us about the content of a work ? XD Beside, now Desmond is what he is (money ! money !), but originally all those past experiences was there to make him internalize the Creed and fight the Templars (and we know there's no real Brotherhood in present time either). So I never actually thought of the game being about the Brotherhood. That would mean analysing it in a completely different way. XD I might try it...one day...(when I have time)
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The moral of the story is: shit gonna go wrong one way or another. But hell, we can at least make a good story out of it XD
Shattering the Brotherhood might have been the only way for it to survive. Sure, in a poor state, but still - there were some who still fought, who still remembered. Little seeds that could be a new beginning... some other time. So it wasn't necessarily such a bad decision after all. I mean, Altair must have known there was nobody who was good enough leader to take over after him. A person that should not only have a heart in the right place and be trusted, but also with some kind of vision for the future AND a following amongst the Assassins. And you're right, I forgot how Abbass messed up Assassin morale so badly. I don't think the Brotherhood would have been better off if they stayed together, I can absolutely agree with you on that. Without a good enough leader to keep them all together it's only logical to divide into smaller groups, where even a less talented leader could manage. And even if not, there were many of those so a chance at least one of them survives grew dramatically.
Funny how we're all so willingly discussins fictional history whereas stuff taught at school... eh.
Okay, so explain to me Fear, Call of Duty, Devil May Cry (the reboot coz the original made sense)... Sometimes shit's accurate, other times - not so much. Though I still love the idea of AC being all about different takes on the Creed, even though I doubt that's what creators had in mind. The original Creed is being more and more forgotten... I'm craving for a return to the roots, for a new protagonist that actually cares about the Creed and it's meaning. As much as the other Assassins were interesting, I believe we've strayed away from the Creed long enough.
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lol Well, it depends what in school. XD
I haven't played Fear or Devil May Cry reboot so...I didn't play Call of Duty, but it's about soldiers right ? Whether they are put on duty or think it's their duty to do this or that (the "call" being in their head instead of an outside call).
Interpretation has nothing with the creator(s), it's solely about you. Beside, there's no way to know, so why try thinking about that ?
Anyway, I agree I would like to see one Assassin living by the Creed more closely again... But I won't whine/complain if there isn't, I'll accept what will come and judge on that alone not in what if.
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play original DMC's before D lowercase m C
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HE IS THE REASON FOR EVERYTHINNNG! x'DDD Yeah. Now I know it.
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XD Oh Edward. (Haven't played AC4 either, so I'm just assuming what he might have been like)
Hey, those three should have let Haytham explain. You know, there is a saying that you can learn most about yourself from your enemies, so...
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If he'd been so bad he had to be killed by HIS OWN son despite that leaving him mourning, you could call him a lost cause. That or Assassins are somewhat prejudiced towards Templars xD
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I think all the Kenweys spoiled the whole series.
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Maybe not spoiled, but definitely changed. It's not about the Brotherhood of Assassins anymore, it's about a lonely warrior fighting a lost cause. And that can only be endured so many times >.>
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Dude, for Haytham- I don't mind at all. But they said the Kenway's are a trilogy, and after them, they're moving on. But seriously- I almost changed colors for Haytham. That man is amazing.
Wow. Much Templar. Very Haytham. Wow.
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Yep, by the sound of it, Connor's grandfather fucked up the order.
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Yep, by the sound of it, Connor's grandfather fucked up the order.
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