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Chapter 1 End.
OH MAN YOU GUYS
I MADE IT
I FINISHED CHAPTER 1
So all you lurkers who have not been commenting, now would be a GREAT time to voice your thoughts! Or even leave a critique. :3
Thanks for sticking with me these past... what, 8 months? Wow... awesome. It's been awesome, and here's hoping you stick around for the next 50 bajillion chapters! Or maybe I'll be pretentious and start calling them "episodes". IDK.
Don't know when I'll start Chapter 2 -- I'd like to do some character art and planning before I start it, but inspiration and productivity might strike me anyway. xD; Oh well. We'll see how that goes!
Oh, yeah, speaking of chapter 2 -- contest. Who won the cameo? Let's take one more look at the entries:
[link] by ~vixenmel
[link] by *charlot-sweetie
[link] by ~maximaxx
[link] by ~Kaelita-kun
[link] by ~SkittyTails
[link] by ~BlackwaterNoble
[link] by =ELASTAS
[link] [link] [link] [link] and [link] by ~piplup25
[link] by ~metaknight-fangirl13
[link] by ~CoroQuetz
[link] and [link] by ~lightsideluc
Part of the reason this page took so long was because I had to go through all the entries and do some judging. It was really hard... the entries were all fantastic and charming. I really liked the variety I got, especially! Everyone envisions Ash differently and it was cool to see how everyone pictured him in a classroom setting.
In the end though, I've decided that the winner is...
Congratulations! While all the entries were really good, 's writing style was witty and smooth, and despite the hyperactive pacing and short attention span of the narrator it was still easy to follow the storytelling. He was able to include humor, gross humor, action, character development, a short moment of horror (Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!) and even a dash of romance at the end and yet was able to keep it both cohesive and within the general, light-hearted attitude of the story. :3
So, good sir, either you, your OC, or your PokΓ©sona gets a short, minor cameo in chapter 2, along with ~CyMoahk 's as well (since he won the math contest on page 13).
AWESOME!
And all you guys who didn't get to enter or didn't win, don't worry, there will be other chances down the road. :3
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Comments: 238
TrioBadge [2011-03-27 21:04:59 +0000 UTC]
oh god! Don't worry Ash you can make him understand you! Also great ending to a great chapter
Even though i didn't win i don't mind at least i tried so congratz for winning !!
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lilmarisa In reply to TrioBadge [2011-03-29 20:36:53 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you liked it!! ^^
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Voligne [2011-03-25 16:13:19 +0000 UTC]
I just stumbled upon this webcomic from TV-Tropes. (Yes, you do infact have your own page)
I am impressed, I look forward to reading more.
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lilmarisa In reply to Voligne [2011-03-25 19:31:04 +0000 UTC]
Thank you! I'm glad you're enjoying it so far! x3
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spyrozsynder [2011-03-25 00:08:48 +0000 UTC]
i absolutly lllooooooovvvvvvveeeeeee!!!!!! your comic!!!!! :3
your doing a great job!!!!
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lilmarisa In reply to spyrozsynder [2011-03-25 01:45:59 +0000 UTC]
Aww! Thank you so much! ^___^
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reapergeek [2011-03-24 17:39:35 +0000 UTC]
I'm one of the aforementioned 'lurkers', but to be fair I only found this comic yesterday.
You are to be congratulated for a number of things, my friend, one of which is actually making me WANT to read anything involving Ass Ketchup (I try not to be one of the nuts who disses the Anime and anyone who likes it, but I can't say I'm a fan).
I really got sucked into this comic, though. I truly enjoyed the story, and that surprised me. You've taken the borderline-cliche 'people-turn-pokemon' story and turned it into something I actually want to read more of. I'm eager to see where this goes and how the characters develop.
As for the art itself, I love the way you draw your Pikachus. They look appropriately cuddly and adorable. My favourite page was definitely page 38, with all of Ashachu's facial expressions (particularly in the final panel). There has been an improvement in the art as the comics progressed as well, which I always love to see. There has been an improvement in the way you draw people specifically: you've got movement and poses pretty much down, and the line art and shading will continue get better with more comics, I'm sure.
Totally 'Watching' this. Looking forward to more. Cheers.
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lilmarisa In reply to reapergeek [2011-03-24 21:05:28 +0000 UTC]
Aweseome~! It's always great to see someone come out of the woodwork and comment I love feedback!
I'm glad to hear you got sucked into the comic, especially since you don't like the anime in the first place. Just out of curiosity, what was it that caught your interest and got you to start reading? Or did you just not know it was anime-based at the time? xD;
I know that "people-turn-into-pokemon" stories have been around for as long as the fandom's been around, so I'm glad to hear it feels fresh and interesting -- especially since I'm actually not very into transformation stories (the idea of turning into an animal freaks me out - which is fine, since I can work that fear into my story ) so I'm not too familiar with what's typical and original in the "genre".
It's sooo nice to hear that my art is improving. x___x; Some of the older pages I was so proud of make me cringe now, haha... I plan on doing a little bit of anatomy study between chapters 1 and 2, get a better feel for the muscles so I can make the bodies look a little more natural. Oliver's actually supposed to be pretty well-built for a guy his age, so I should probably start working that in. :3
Thanks so much for watching and for the awesome comment! ^_____^
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Ryua [2011-03-23 01:34:43 +0000 UTC]
aslkdhfewaoijsfdj SOOOO happy for an update! Aww, he's so cute hugging little Ashchu...
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lilmarisa In reply to Ryua [2011-03-23 05:36:28 +0000 UTC]
^_____^ Thanks! Ashachu IS cute, isn't he? hehehehe
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ZippyDev [2011-03-22 22:53:11 +0000 UTC]
I've been enjoying these a lot! They've been a lot of fun to read, and since you finished a full chapter, I figure the least I can do is write a critique, since you've been repeatedly asking for them. Unfortunately, I'm not a premium member, so I have to offer critiques in comments. So it goes! Anyway, these come with the caveat that I'm not a professional artist, and so you can feel free to say "whatever, he doesn't know what he is talking about", and you might actually be right! But you've been asking for critiques consistently enough that I figure, if you can go to the trouble of drawing the things, the least I can do is to write up my thoughts on what parts I did and didn't like about them, and try to get them into some kind of cohesive form.
Here goes:
I'll start with the things that I don't like, and get them out of the way first:
* First and foremost, are the art issues. Your art is generally good (see below for specifics) but you have some trouble with proportions. And it's not one thing (you don't always draw, say, ears too big) but just sort of a general "things are frequently a bit off, and it makes the whole picture look weird." Page 32 for example, Ash's pikachu ears are roughly double normal size. It ends up looking strange.
Also, there is sometimes you are inconsistent and sloppy on your detail work. The most obvious example that comes to mind is probably page 39 itself, last page in the chapter: Oliver and Ashe are fine, and look good, but Oliver's dad just looks strange. He has less detail than anyone else in the picture, and the effect is off-putting. (Fewer color gradations in his hair, the linework on his face is all the same thickness, his eyes don't even have pupils, and the shadows on his chin are just strange looking, since the highlight continues on the lower-right far higher than it looks like it should.)
I think that if you fixed these two issues, it would really help!
Ok, now on to the good stuff:
I like the story a lot! It's familiar ground at this point (there have been no shortage of "oops Ash is a pikachu again" fanfics by now) but you've managed some nice twists so far. In particular, the "Person that Pokemon just hate" is a nice hook, and original, as far as I know. You've done a nice job of hinting at Oliver's dad's past, without explaining anything outright.
You have a nice understanding of comic panel layout and pacing. You're not afraid to leave large chunks of the panel blank, if the content calls for it. (Page 27 for example was very nice.)
I really like your willingness to draw things from weird angles. You have good "camera work", if that's the right word for it. Things like Pika-Ash looking up at the huge-seeming (and foreshortened) Oliver (in page 38) are good stuff, and really help to break up the comic. You are in no danger of falling into the standard "trap" of having a bunch of talking heads each panel that only change minimally.
You also have a nice ability to draw expressive poses. You manage to get a lot of the expression into the whole body, and not just rely on the face to convey emotion. Page 32 for example, you manage to get through a whole page of Ash monologue, without it turning into a boring page. I think the fact that he was in a different pose each frame helped a lot. Things like the ears dropping as realization hit are wonderful touches, and work far better than just a "surprised expression" would have. Well done!
Finally, I've found the writing to be surprisingly good! (Surprisingly, in that I have fairly low expectations these days from fan comics) You have a nice sense of dramatic pacing and timing, and the dialogue doesn't feel forced. I particularly liked at the end of this chapter, the way you managed to hint that Ash might be speaking pika-eese, but managed to completely drive the point home in the final panel. You could have done something really heavy handed ("Haha, you just keep saying Pika Pika!" but with one line ("Pika Pika to you too, little guy" line) you manage to both clinch the fact that Ash is not, in fact communicating after all, AND remind Ash (and the reader) that he is small and vulnerable at the moment as well.
So. Well done! I'm enjoying this a lot, and hope you keep with it! Your art has improved tremendously over the first couple pages too, so I can only imagine what it will be like at the end of THIS chapter. Keep up the good work!
-Zippy
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lilmarisa In reply to ZippyDev [2011-03-23 05:35:48 +0000 UTC]
OH MY GOOOOOOSH SUCH A LONG AND DETAILED REVIEW/CRITIQUE
I LOVE THESE THINGS, THANK YOU SO MUCH
Yeah, the inconsistencies in my art have really been bugging me, too, especially regarding things like anatomy - or even simple things like what the character was wearing on the previous page. I think I'm gonna spend the little break between chapters 1 and 2 making a couple model sheets and doing some anatomy study in hopes to help improve in that regard
A lot of it is just... laziness, too. Often times I'll see the error plainly and just think "Oh, whatever." And post it anyway without fixing it. I need to... not... have that attitude. xD;
Oliver went through a lot of changes in the 2 years I planned this comic before actually posting it, but "person that pokemon just hate" was something that stayed consistent for pretty much his whole existence. I'm glad people are finding that interesting!
As for Oliver and Edison's past, the pacing and speed of the reveal is partly based on what kind of comments I get. I can't really tell what is and isn't obvious about their backstory so far since I already know all of it, so it's good to watch people make guesses and predictions, so I can pace the reveals (or throw in red herrings ;D) based on what people think is going on. If something's glaringly obvious, I figure there's no point trying to keep it "secret", so I might as well reveal it and focus on keeping the bigger twists hush-hush ;3
I think you're the first person to comment on my page layouts, and I'm really glad you noticed them. ^^ It can be pretty time-consuming to tweak the drawings and panels on a page to make sure the space is being utilized well to convey time and action. I know a lot of pro artists have to fill a certain page quota and not go over it -- I don't know how they do it x___x
The camera work is both a fun and stressful part of the drawing these pages! When an unusual pose turns out looking great, like on 27, or 38, it's a very good feeling. Actually sitting down and drawing those angles was a pain, haha. But still, in the end, I do enjoy breaking up the page with angles like that for exactly the reason you said - it makes the page more interesting, both for me and (I hope) for the reader.
The thing about body expression is... I'm a very dramatic speaker, so I talk with my whole body, and I just kinda... work that into the comic because it's what looks/feels right to me. Plus, I've got this idea in my head that since comics are a visual medium, the art alone should be able to tell the story with very little dialogue. I want a Japanese or Spanish speaker to be able to look at my comic and know kind of what's going on, even if they can't understand the verbal exposition. :3
I think one thing that really helps is the fact that I don't even write dialogue until I'm halfway done with the page. I'll draw the scene out, and know the kind of things I want the characters to say, but I don't actually write the words down until I've already drawn the poses, since the body language can influence what I think they're saying. ^^ So the ears dropping and all that... it was basically me going "Okay, here is a series of drawings where Ash reacts to being turned into a pikachu. Now what does he say?"
And the writing! I'm glad you like that, too! I'm much more of a writer than I am an artist, so that just gives me the warm fuzzies. ^___^ My personal pacing/storytelling preferences come from years of reading both Manga and Comics and finding a happy medium between both, plus over a decade of fanfic trial and error. Of course, there's always room to improve.
Even for experienced writers, writing dialogue can be really difficult, so someone who isn't used to writing (such as an artist) would have even more difficulty with it xD I must look really crazy when I draw these pages because when I write the dialogue I will act it out and say it to myself to make sure it sounds right. xDDD I'm glad my methods are working!!
Thanks again for taking the time to leave such a long, detailed comment!! ^____^ I really appreciate it!
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ZippyDev In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-26 04:01:37 +0000 UTC]
Thank YOU for
1) taking a lot of time to make a comic that I am enjoying quite a bit
2) Asking for actual feedback and not just cheerleading. (As someone who has a problem with this myself, I know how hard it can be to hear the less positive feedback, especially about something you are invested in. Even though I usually find that the most valuable, I sometimes have a hard tmie hearing it. :-\ So good on you for actively seeking it out!
Keep up the awesome work!
-Zippy
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SherlockianHamps In reply to ??? [2011-03-21 16:35:56 +0000 UTC]
Yay for an awesome chapter!
Boo for it being over for now DX
Looking forward to more of these guys.
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lilmarisa In reply to SherlockianHamps [2011-03-21 20:45:44 +0000 UTC]
Yay! x3 I'm glad you like it!
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TheShadowDarkrai [2011-03-20 18:38:41 +0000 UTC]
HAHAHAHAHA.
That was good.
like I said before, He needs to learn how to quit flapping his gums.
What happens if team rocket and their meowth comes along?
That`d be BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDD If he started talking like he just did!
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lilmarisa In reply to TheShadowDarkrai [2011-03-21 20:46:27 +0000 UTC]
Haha, well, nothing's happened yet. So he should be safe for now!
...for now >D
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TheShadowDarkrai In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-27 00:24:18 +0000 UTC]
yeah, but still.
he needs some silence training.
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PokemonTrainerLisa In reply to ??? [2011-03-20 12:30:07 +0000 UTC]
Great work on the dialogue here. And aww, that's pretty cute, Oliver hugging Ashachu, I mean.
Also, I love the shocked expression on Ash's face in the last panel. It's great!! XD
And oh noes! Oliver can't understand Ash! What's he gonna do now?
Poor Ash. He's gotta think of something!! I'd say he needs to do something fast. He needs to take drastic measures to get his message across.
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lilmarisa In reply to PokemonTrainerLisa [2011-03-21 20:46:08 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, even when he's in terror, Ashachu is adorable x3
I'm sure he'll come though, though!
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Janna-Hawkins [2011-03-20 04:02:50 +0000 UTC]
Ohhh poor Ash!
Congrats on finishing the first chapter!!! Can't wait to see what happens next!
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MKtisowie59 [2011-03-20 03:42:01 +0000 UTC]
HURRAY !! CONGRATULATIONS on a job well done on this chapter !! I'll keep in tune for the next chapter
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lilmarisa In reply to MKtisowie59 [2011-03-20 03:50:22 +0000 UTC]
THANKS
I hope you'll like it :3
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Elastas In reply to ??? [2011-03-19 23:14:21 +0000 UTC]
aw well ^^ cant win em all.
or even some :L
LOVE THE FACE. LOL!
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lilmarisa In reply to Elastas [2011-03-20 03:49:55 +0000 UTC]
There will be other chances :3
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righteouswolf In reply to ??? [2011-03-19 22:24:08 +0000 UTC]
Ash is like "oh crap, i'm screwed" in the last panel
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PokemonTrainerLisa In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-20 12:37:34 +0000 UTC]
Yep, he's screwed in more ways than one, apparently. XD Let's see, Ash has been turned into a Pikachu, he's been CAUGHT by someone, and now humans are unable to understand him. Ouch. Talk about having a rough time! Ash is going through a lot! O_O
Yeah, things aren't looking good for him, lol. He's got a major dilemma on his hands, or paws, I should say. XD The only question now is, can anyone help him overcome these obstacles that he's facing?
My prediction: Pikachu to the rescue. If anyone can understand that he's really a human and he's, in fact Ash, it's definitely Pikachu. XD
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lilmarisa In reply to PokemonTrainerLisa [2011-03-21 15:41:03 +0000 UTC]
He sure is going through a lot, but this is Ash we're talking about. Knowing him, he'll find a way to come out on top. ;3
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PokemonTrainerLisa In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-21 17:24:24 +0000 UTC]
Hehe, you're right. Ash is very determined. And he never gives up no matter what! Good point!
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REV6Pilot In reply to ??? [2011-03-19 21:33:28 +0000 UTC]
Interesting, I've never heard of a person hated by PokΓ©mon. That's rahter original, and I'm gonna see what turns out.
Added to the watch.
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lilmarisa In reply to REV6Pilot [2011-03-20 03:49:16 +0000 UTC]
Good, because I've got a lot planned for this that I hope you'll enjoy x3
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REV6Pilot In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-20 03:57:46 +0000 UTC]
I will if you keep it going like you are ^_^
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Suicunee In reply to ??? [2011-03-19 21:25:42 +0000 UTC]
CONGRATS - FINISHING THE FIRST CHAPTER! *waves*
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pupusukka In reply to ??? [2011-03-19 19:00:41 +0000 UTC]
Ash is in deep shit now : D
Concrats for completing the first chap~ how many there are gonna be, If I may ask
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lilmarisa In reply to pupusukka [2011-03-19 19:04:18 +0000 UTC]
I don't know, I haven't planned that far ahead. xD I know what milestones I want to hit, but I haven't divided the entire story into chapters just yet. ;3
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pupusukka In reply to lilmarisa [2011-03-19 19:09:13 +0000 UTC]
oo, so you do almost like me, Have some plot points in head but just devide the story when it's time to it? :3
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lilmarisa In reply to pupusukka [2011-03-19 19:17:05 +0000 UTC]
Yeah. This comic is going to be long. This isn't just a quest to get Ash's humanity back, this is an all-out epic story about character development, coming of age and self-discovery (for both Ash and Oliver). Follows the steps of your typical Hero's Journey. ;3
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