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This is what a police state looks like. Things truely are black and white.Related content
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"Police State"...Heh..You made me laugh with that comment..
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OK, I have something fictional to tell you about:
There are 71 refugees settling at a refugee camp in Orlando, Florida. All of the refugees are Egyptians and Somalis. The refugees from Egypt are supporters if Mohammed Morsi and the refugees from Somalia have fled the civil war in the country. The governor of Florida has imposed a ban on Egyptian and Somali refugees from settling here in the state. And the police decide to dismantle the refugee camp. And the refugees get pepper sprayed by the police. And then some of the refugees get arrested. And then there's a deadly shooting by the police in which some of the refugees get killed.
1. How many people out of the 71 refugees would be arrested by the police?
2. How many people out of the 71 refugees would be shot and killed by police?
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Police State- "A totalitarian state controlled by a political police force that secretly supervises the citizens activities."
That would not happen.
That just would not happen. That's not how Police here conduct operations.
Our Officers uphold, and enforce the Law. They don't "secretly supervise" anything.
They simply enforce the Law's in which we live by. (Law's that are quite fair.)
You don't see them busting into your house at random either.
No, if an armored S.W.A.T team shows up at your door. They have a damn good reason to be there.
Though, they have gotten the wrong house before. Mistakes can happen we're still Human beings. (I know Officers are held to higher standards, but their still Human like you and me.)
You don't see them taking away Protesters and throwing them in jail for expressing themselves.
No, they take the unlawful protesters who have done wrong, and take them.
Watch this video. Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwAThpβ¦
As you can see, the protesters are breaking storefronts, harassing passerby's, and being overall beast like.
The Police neatly and calmly asked them to move.
Mainly because the protests had gotten violent, and traffic needed to move.
But all you hear from the anarchists are "Shame! Shame! Fascist Pigs!" Β and other vulgar insults.Β
Quite frankly, those Officers handled that entire situation quite professionally.
Now...What was it you wanted to say about this being a "Police State."?
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infowars prison planet, There's a war on, for your mind!
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Do you mind if I sketch this and upload it here? I'll give you credit for it.
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El casco nunca me gustΓ³, de ese tipo.
(I never liked the helmet)
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handsome figure of authority I think. Here's to our police force
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maybe you should look again. All I see is a police road block preventing people from expressing their social, economic, and political views to their target audience. Most of their views I do not agree with, however, it was an obvious attempt at suppressing an opposing point of view. Is the policeman telling with his posture and stick that he will be soft and inviting should you decide to cross his threshold of authority with the tip of your big toe? The greater idea that the subjects demeanor is projecting... or at least to me, is controlled movement, suppression of points of view based on politics, and this guy, looking for a reason to exert his authority.
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"This is what a police state looks like."
I guess it depends on what you consider a police sate. If it's a state that has police in it, then I agree. If the term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population (see wikipedia), then I think your picture falls short of demonstrating the concept.
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It's all the same these days...
"Ohh my! it's a police state, brothers, sisters clean your guns! rise against the evil empire!"
It's strange to think that the very worst of a state shows itself when everyone is off guard...
No panic people, It's just plastic sheilds and kevlar to prevent injuries to the officers in a country that's OK WITH GUNS IN PUBLIC!!
HELLO?!
Of course it's a police state! The country leaves it's doors open to gun crime!
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There is only gun crime in this country because they are making guns more illegal. Washington DC boasts the nations highest levels of gun violence yet they have the nations toughest gun laws. How can this be? When you take guns out of the hands of lawful citizens, the only people to have guns are criminals. A nation with out a gun bearing populous "leaves it's door open" to a dictatorship.
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it is ignorant to say that a crime of such color and scandal and emotion and violence, can be watered down to one such cause....
that simply law is the creator of crime
no, human nature is the creator of crime
all law is merely an aspect of what we as people are in impluse to create. whether one stone tablets, or just implied right and wrong. if i stole all of your things, you cirtainly would not find it the right course of action from me...
which i do not think you are too stupid to know.
now, i have only one question to give me perspective...
do you find the country as a "police state" or were you merely creating a cool pic to show off?
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No, laws are not the creator of crime, they are the facilitator of crime, to be the consideration for the criminal. Laws either facilitate for a positive or negative outcome. There are bad laws out there that produce a negative outcome. Keeping guns out of the hands of lawful citizens is bad law.
Right, laws reflect cultural relativism. But I reject the notion that my constitutional rights are somehow relative to someone else's culture. "and America is truely a far more free'er place than much of the world" that statement is true. But if you are saying that because its the consolation prize for handing over one's guns, that statement becomes less and less true when more rights are confiscated from the individual.
As far as the picture, no, this country is currently not under a police state. This picture "is what a police state looks like" *see description*. It captures the police state, which was in full force during the Republican National Convention 2008; a specific time and place.
But Im glad you hurled ignorant and stupid before seeking clarity. Thanks
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i did not mudsling, or defame you
if you read, as you told me to do, then you will notice i asked how you felt in reguards to america being a police state...
i took no judgement on you, because i was unshure as to your perspective
which is WHY I ASKED YOU. i was "seeking clarity", as you so chose to put it
fyi: the question is the last line of my comment, if you planned on looking it up
and ingorance... i merely wanted to bounce off you some perspective. maybe you might consider not taking it so personal.
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In what part of my response was I "taking it personal"? I missed it.
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eh well, you still didnt read my message by evidence of your reply...
i care not to reply anymore, you seem not in intrest of my words
may this picture live on in infamy
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There is no Dictatorship.
Their actions are down to the people. If you want to pick up a gun because you see an officer with one then maybe that's how it all happened in the first place.
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There is not a dictatorship now. That's why this country was founded, to evade a monarchy. "It's strange to think that the very worst of a state shows itself when everyone is off guard..." I agree, Obama enjoys the biggest approval rating of any incoming president. This country is "off guard".
"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations, Second Edition (1973), Pg. 425-426. Translated by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens. Introduced and with a new preface by H. R. Trevor-Roper. The original German papers were known as Bormann-Vermerke
The only comparison I am making between Obama and Hitler is that they are both leftists. I find it relative.
By the way....There is not even a gun in the picture.
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It's not what's in the picture that matters...
It looks like you've spent a good ten minutes typing that reply, going to great lengths in just showing what you THINK is a dictatorship.
I don't see one, and that shouldn't cloud you. Why don't you give the whole 'conspiracy' theory a rest, relax, and enjoy your life.
In truth, there has always been talk of a '
I think that makes more sense than what you came up with, and given your reference to hitler and the nazis, our definition of a '
Now I'm beginning to grow weary of this talk of an "evil empire" spreading across the globe, I'm going to listen to Some Monty Python...
"Always look on the bright side of life! B-dum, b-dum b-dum b-dum!"
Ta-ra!
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Good, then you wont mind if I have the last word. Its not you who is weary of this conversation, its the substance of your point of view that is weary to this debate. You quote "evil empire" like you are using my words against me when you are the only one to ever mention it. I just wanted to make sure you knew you were quoting yourself. Which means you are empty of what ever argument you think you had. There is no fact in your reply, you are trying to substitute substance with emotion. Those are very different. I did not "spend a good ten minutes typing that reply", how long does it take you to Google 'Hitler gun control' and go to the number 1 link? Try it, it might look familiar. while you are at it, time yourself. You can call me what ever kind of conspiracy theorist or name you want, but the fact is the politics that play here in the United States, MY country, (if in fact you are a 16 yr old from the UK) have a very different outcome on me than it does you. You have next to zero vested interest in the outcome of my constitutional rights, therefore, your emotions toward it mean less than shit. You don't even have a written constitution, why would you care about the preservation of mine? Go bugger your uncle or whatever you clowns say.
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Well, All I can say is that being sour about it doesn't help.
If you're country is indeed such a complicated mess, then I doubt it will be running it's little show any longer. What ever it may be.
And you think my Country is a safe Haven? You think all the Laws are cushy and soft? The UK and the US are quite similar. Both are thriving metropolises under the strain of people asking too much.
And age should have nothing to with what I'm supposed to know, and the things that I may not.
Nor should you include such vulgar comments about random members of my family. I never delivered such comments on yourself.
I've completely forgotten about what I'm commenting on now. Obviously the accumulation of people like you asking too much of your government and pointing out a finger at the unfortunate occurances in your life are the problem. Perhaps I have some mistakes in my personality to put forward, and I would do so proudly in the knowledge that whatever ills there are in this world (which I am deeply sorry for you to have seen so much of) there is an equal amount of pleasantries and noble gestures.
Just hoping that you can see that one day.
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It is not your age that hurts you, its your emotional argument void of factual information. I dont care about your feelings.
"I've completely forgotten about what I'm commenting on now" This mean we are through with this waste of time. You must have a need to win some how in some capacity otherwise you wouldn't argue topics you dont even know what the topic is. Things are wrong in the world, people like you make it worse, having some basic NEED to win in any regard. BTW this is a threaded conversation, is your ability to scroll up to see previous comments as broken as your augment it self?
"It's not what's in the picture that matters..." Says the guy on an art website specific to photography.
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE PICTURE DONT BOTHER TO REPLY. YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME.
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So that's an apology to the obscene comment then is it?
Because I don't see one.
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"Because I don't see one." Trust me, there is a lot you don't see.
Consistency is also a part of having a sound belief system, so I will revisit some points because you have forgotten or have chosen not to "see".
"I dont care about your feelings." So no apology necessary
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE PICTURE DONT BOTHER TO REPLY. YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME.
in case you missed it...
IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON THE PICTURE DONT BOTHER TO REPLY. YOU ARE A WASTE OF TIME. (If I had the means to make the words more capital, I would.)
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No apology then?
And with an essay to follow a small reply I don't think I can take you seriously. Yawn* No more replies please, this is getting dull.
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Yes, I would hate for a bunch of facts in paragraph form to cloud your judgment.
Take your own advice:
"No more replies please"
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The inhabitants of a police state experience restrictions on their mobility, and on their freedom to express or communicate political or other views, which are subject to police monitoring or enforcement. Political control may be exerted by means of a secret police force which operates outside the boundaries normally imposed by a constitutional state. If you went to the Republican National Convention 08, but were not officially invited in, chances are you might agree.
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I knew better. Lot's of Ron Paul people I knew tried to do something with the republicrats. Maybe over time they will but I don't think we have that much time. It will take blood revolution to fix this country.
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I think you are right. Viva Ron Paul!
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Thanks. We seem to be in the minority here.
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Your avitar is all the more fitting when you know perspective. Good for you.
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I fully expect to die fighting the New World Order, unlike pitiful pathetic cowards like you who will willingly bow down and kiss whatever they stick in your face.
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and there must be found a balance.
all is lost in either side
and america is truely a far more free'er place than much of the world
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Hey great photos man! How are the laws in Minnesota concerning photographing the police? I've gotten into trouble here in Italy, but I was basically getting in their face while they were eating!
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Our 1st constitutional amandment protects that. They will give you trouble if they can find a reason to though.
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So you're sure that 'freedom of the press' allows amateur journalists without a press pass to photograph police officers and their vehicles? Because with the whole environment of limited 'free speech zones' I'm guessing they could use some anti-terrorism law to forbid things like that..
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Anyone can stand on any public street and take a picture. If the police are trying to control an area on the street that you are taking that picture, you will do what they say or they can arrest you. I can photograph the police if they are on the street.
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What always strike me with pics of this sort... Its hard to imagine that this guy has children, family, summerholidays and so on.
well caught.
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Thank you very much. You bring up a great point. While we are thinking about what could be...Its also hard to imagine him imagining about what humanity is at the business end of his billy club. He would have had me at forbidding, this guy is projecting the consequence of paralysis.
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Don't think I haven't forgotten about it. I've barely any time for my own practice. This WILL get finished. Just don't give your hopes up.
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Nice photo. Mind if I sketch this and upload? I'll of course give recognition.
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Thank you, sure, I am intestested to see your sketch
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Thank you, I'll message you when I finish it.
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