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Great shot,but the girl looks like she is sucking on his face.
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Wow..very moving. A great shot. What is going on in the background though, may I ask? I'm not entirely up to date with World affairs ^^'
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People were rioting during the Republican National Convention... I can't remember exactly why they were rioting though...
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Maybe the kiss was staged... who knows... But the rest of it wasn't.
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Bologna. It is only OBVIOUS that is was staged, COME ON! Look at the guy on the truck. Let's get real here, what cop is going to pose on a truck like that if it was NOT staged? Exactly!
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Isn't that kinda rude? Why not just let people enjoy things instead of running up to them and ruining it by telling them that it's fake. It shouldn't matter if it's real or fake. It's art. And whether it was the right DD to be chosen or not doesn't give you the right to ruin it for the rest of us. ): I'm not saying HAY YOUR OPINION SUCKS because everyone's entitled to your own- but why not keep it to yourself or other people who feel the same way.
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Because, critique is for the better. The woman especially is too up tight in the shot and I made the suggestion to make it more natural-looking next time. Everyone is entitled to say or critique on what they want -- REGARDLESS what the rules say on D.A. about DD's!
I, and I am sure a number of other people, don't care about rules and regulation all the time because some are ridiculous. I'm not going to STOP what I am doing for someone else on here. If I want to critique, damnit I am going to critique!
And you know what, I think your OPINION about MY opinion SUCKS! How do you like the taste of that edge? I didn't think so.
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You don't have to be a total douchebag..
Which.. you were doing in the first place. The only reason I even said anything was because I saw that you were trolling all over the first page of comments that came up.
You can get as defensive as you want- the artist didn't ask for yours or anyone else's critique, therefore- you shooting down their piece just comes off as harassing to others and possibly them.
Critiquing is a helpful thing-- when people request it. It's not just closed off to subscribers anymore, so no one is missing out.
I can agree that the woman looks out of place- but you really are ruining it for the people who A. Don't see it B. Don't care and they like to enjoy what was trying to be created if it was being created at all.
I'm sure I'm not the only one trying to talk a little sense to you- and I'm sure that's probably one of the reasons that you're uptight about this- but why not just leave it alone? No one is trying to pick a fight- just restore the order.
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Some may not care about what I see in the picture (me being an Art critic) nor may they catch on, but I am not getting on an offense. What I AM doing is standing my ground on what I like to do (maybe not in the nicest of way) and will CONTINUE doing it and that is: critique. Whether you or anyone else likes it or not!
I deal with critique every damn day and other Artists these days need to get over their dislike of critique because they are going to get a LOT of it as they go. I do not care if you are William Shakespeare or the Pope, ok?
That is that. And the reason I got ticked the way I did is because someone wanted to challenge me, like you, to prove something to an Art critic who already KNOWS his stuff. I am a VERY bold and can be mean Art critic, but I ASSURE you that those who have hated me because of it thanked me later!
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I think you're missing the point.
The entire reason I even replied to one of your comments is because no one asked for your critique.
I understand your point of view-- and I also understand that you think that you're in the right. You're standing up for something that no one is targeting you for.
On the comment box, if your critique is needed, it will say "critique requested". This time, it didn't say such a thing. When giving a critique when that comment box is turned onto the default box, you're jumping into a world of uh-ohs. You have no idea if you're going to hurt the artist's feelings, offend them or if they'll be okay with it. That's why the option is there on whether or not to turn critique off. Now, if you were to come into my gallery and tell me everything that was wrong with my art, I would get a bit huffy- and possibly turn all comments off until you got the point. I don't like, nor have I ever liked critique unless I've asked someone for it. It offends a person like me. I'm not the only one out there.
It does baffle me how you're getting defensive over something that I apparently am not doing to you. I'm not challenging your critiquing skills, nor have I ever in the entire debate that we've gone through. Talk about stuffing words into someone's mouth huh?
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As soon as I read the third line, I said to myself, "Forget it."
I already see where the Hell this is going. RIGHT back to square ONE!
I KNOW NO ONE ASKED FOR IT, BUT IT DOES NOT HURT NO MATTER IF THEY DO OR NOT!
Sometimes I cannot STAND this day in time because people today are more bone-headed than ANYTHING I have ever witnessed!
CRITIQUE DOES NOT HURT, OK? AND ANY COLLEGE PROFESSOR OR PERSON WITH A SENSE OF HEAD WILL TELL YOU THAT.
Any response you make upon this will be OMITTED.
GOODBYE! I am through arguing with you stupid people.
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Finally. X.x'
And the hilarity of this all was that "square one" was the problem in the first place- you just kept going and getting farther away from the point- which was that.
Speaking of boneheaded- take a look in the mirror. You are the most stubborn person I've ever spoken to-- and I've held conversations with a lot of people.
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No you are the most stubborn. Bottom line is, I do not care what you say, think (I am sure you are the same about me) and whether you say the Artist DID or DID NOT ask for a critique, I GIVE critique ALL the time regardless what ANYONE says!
You keep saying they did not ASK for it. I KNOW THAT. Regardless, I give it ANYWAYS!
Why don't you take a damn look in the mirror here!
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But that's insanely rude of you. You could always offer instead of throwing it out there. That way- you're saying something but not hurting people's feelings-- at least not right off the bat *facepalm*
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Call me rude or whatever you wish, I even ADMITTED I was a bold and can be mean Art critic and have also ASSURED you that they have thanked me in the END. THAT is what you are NOT getting through your head is I have been THANKED FROM HUNDREDS of people for my critiquing -- EVEN people who did not ASK for it!
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Ever think that maybe they thanked you to get them off their back?
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Yes, but I know that is not true because they come back and ask for my critiques in Notes. So your theory would be incorrect. However, it may only be correct 5% but that 95% NO, not at all. I got TONS of people wanting critiques from me, especially in the Literature section.
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Prove it and I'll let it go. Lemme see examples.
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How am I going to prove something I am dying to prove right now that is deep within my Notes? I cannot submit my notes as Artwork. They are meant to be personal on my site or on anyone page.
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you've got to have comment track back in your recent activities- in your friends account's galleries. Think of something. You have the proof if this is the truth.
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I can screen shot just one person that has posted Notes in my comments. I have already taken care of my other customers, but I will give you an example with just ONE person alone. I deal with a TON of notes. SO MUCH that each page is the one you are about to see. It would take more than a 100 pages of submition to prove my point to the fullest.
SO, the best I can do is screen shot and show you an example, ok?
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Just one random person isn't really supporting your argument-- I'm sure you can see why I would think so. If you can't-- I really didn't think you were that close minded..
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What I am trying to say is that this is the only person left I am not even near done helping; and I got tons of other people. There is another person in my submition called yigit. I help him too allot too. But I already took care of the others this morning so I cannot submit those people.
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But that's not what I asked for- just because you're done with them doesn't mean that you've lost all record of what has gone down in the past with your critiquing. For all I know- and I'm not accusing you of it- is that you're just saying that so you can be in the right.
And you do realize that the artistic way is always growing- you can never ever be done "helping" someone if that were the situation..
People grow and progress by themselves if you let them.
Do you ever get people that don't answer you or just tell you to get out or shut up? Those are the people that you're bothering. : /
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I submitted the other half. The one I should of. And yes, I deleted all records already. Every day I do.
And no I do not get people like that. And no duh, I know that people progress, but the way to progressing is to teach or heads-up someone, help them about something and say, "HEY . . " and let them know.
Not everyone can be helped, but I try.
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Well you could try a bit nicer. : / That's for sure..
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Should of could of would of, but I am not; and it seems to me sorry from me to you or anyone else regarding that is not good enough. I gave you some proof and I am wanting to take this off my Gallery before I look any more stupid on my D.A. page than I already do.
It kills me I got a fave on one of the links though.
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Wow... you are ridiculous... have you looked at the rest of his gallery?? there's a bunch of pictures from the RNC and you wanna go ahead and tell me THOSE are staged to? get real here... the riots in St Paul DID happen so it's not like it was hard to take a picture like this.
& idk what you're talking about... the guy on the truck doesn't even look like he's posing. get over yourself.
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Oh, and by the way, do not stick words or phrases in my mouth I did NOT mention. I never said his other work was staged. I speak of THIS picture and this one only!
So let's get that straight.
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Oh no, I was just merely making a point in saying that he's taken other pictures from the same riot, with police. So why would he stage this one and not the others?
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I do not care about the others, the DD is this picture NOT the others! Why is that so hard to comprehend?
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Listen, I can give a fly what you or anyone else says, ok? And you probably don't care what I have to say, but the bottom line is, what cop is going to POSE on a truck and stare (along with ALL the other dudes) right at the two people front and CENTER?
Learn how to observe art before correcting anotherr person upon their comment!
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umm sorry but that cop is merely looking out..i live in another city where there have been riot,and yes cops do stand on top of vehicles just like that to look out farther into the crowds, i have first handedly seen a similar instance. so u should think about the scenario before commenting...
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I was through arguing with you a LONG time ago. However, now since you want to continue, let us continue! For the thirtieth time, how many times do I have to state that this picture is still not natural looking and looks, keyword looks like a staged shot?
I do not care if 1,000,000,000 people were there. Maybe I did not get my point clear enough so let me clarify. There is a difference between me saying it looks staged and that it IS staged (I know I wrote that). What I meant to say was that it looks as if staged. I am sorry if there was any confusion here, all right.
All I have been trying to state this whole time is that the photo does not look natural. I am tired of arguing about this, truly, and I am definitely sure you are as well!
One more thing I want to state, is that I am NOT going against the suggestor who made this a Daily Deviation. All I did was say that the next shot he/she takes should look a bit more natural! I KNOW I did not say it in the nicest of ways, but that is how I am.
So let us end this charade because it is really getting old and ridiculous . . .
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i understand, i had just seen the pic and ur comments and wanted to say that the cops really do do that. though once i looked at it more and i will agree that it does look staged, at least the kiss does. i really didn't mean to come off rude or anything, just wanted to point that out.
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Nah, you are probably the nicest one today. You come more easy than the others instead of all contraversial.
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yea thats me, though don't get me wrong i AM a bitch..but Thank You very much!!
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hey
chill out
this is what it looked like
i live here
the macho young pigs had lots of postures. . . .
the smell of hubris filled the air. . .
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All I am simply saying is that it is not a natural looking photo, for the 20th time. Why should I chill out if the person I had a dispute with is trying to say it was a natural taken photo?
If the Artist cannot take my suggestion in taking a more natural photo, next time, then he/she can forget about art because I deal with critique EVERY day! I know, good for me. I am not going to let my guard down against someone who does not know what they are talking about saying this is a natural looking photo.
Sorry.
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The two people in the fore ground are obviously staged,it is intentional and campy, but the background was not, and you are WRONG about that, and you were rude.
Deal with it.
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I was through arguing on this subject a long time ago. Get off the high horse and get over it, too! I am. And anything you say after this will be omitted because I am simply TIRED of arguing on this old subject. For the record, I already admitted I was not the nicest of critiquers but am very straightforward. You telling me I was/am rude is nothing new to me.
P.S. IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON FOLKS!
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you should change your username, pal
and perhaps admit you were wrong
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I do not have to nor should do anything. The only one I bow to is the one above. And the sole reason I am arguing with you now is because you are challenging me. However, that's above to change here soon.
It seems to me you are the one who wants to continue because I got over this dispute a LONG time ago. I am through with arguing with you people!
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Apparently you do care because you keep arguing with me and calling everyone else blind because they don't agree with you. For one, you cant even see everyones faces, half are blurred out. secondly, did you think maybe the cop is trying to get a better view of the riot at hand?
If you think the background is staged, go ahead, because I know you're wrong. If some guy was taking a picture of two people in the middle of the street suckin face, I'd be lookin too.
"Learn how to observe art before correcting anotherr person upon their comment!" ummm, can we say hypocrite? you just tried to correct me on my comment when I was just telling someone what the picture is of. It's a riot. In minnesota. At the RNC. It happened. look it up.
Maybe eh asked them to kiss so he could take a picture? That's believable. but don't tell me I'm absurd to think the background is real when he's taken plenty of other photos AT THE SAME RIOT.
Now I'm done arguing with you, because neither you nor anyone else will change my mind on this.
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That has nothing to do with anything about you telling someone else what it is. I know it is a riot, a setup riot.
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Listen, the background (if you knew a damn thing about photography) is blurred out because the FOCUS is on the two people NOT the cops.
Whereas they might be blurred and you cannot see their faces, it is STILL obvious they they are ALL trying their damnest for the photo -- EVEN the guy on the very right hand side peaking his way in.
Secondly, name a reason WHY the cop is standing on the truck. O' to get a better view? First off, he would have had to of had TIME to speak to the photographer suggesting that he get on the truck for the shot. A natural picture does not wait for a guy to clime on a truck just to see the two people, ok?
And of course he asked the two to kiss for the picture, but it is not a natural shot/kiss, and NEITHER is the background setup. In other words, you are not going to get a shot like this unless it was setup out of the BLUE!
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the cop was trying to acquire a similar position to a guard tower etc. that officer is likely a higher up IC and crucial to running the Law Enforcement of the riot, that officer needs a better view due to his particular duties.
easily explainable. the riot was not staged.
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