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Published: 2015-08-05 17:23:44 +0000 UTC; Views: 17349; Favourites: 628; Downloads: 29
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how dare deviantart change things thats horrible !!!!if you excuse me im gonna increase my commission prices because i need money and change my avatar again
Whole deviantart is about this and its just so stupid
oh no they changed the icons , oh noo now everything is different forever
and changing the prices is something totaly normal for a site like this , im surprised they didnt do it before
yeah they should have said something about it before changing it so suddenly but then again , everyone would react the same anyway
if you dont like core membership then don't buy it simple as that
just because you can't afford it doesnt mean its bad , you don't see me being mad at Apple for making laptops out of my price range
but then again , everyone can have their own opinion i quess
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This comic. Β I love this comic. Β Especially the guy who's just windowshopping, that is my favorite guy there.
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I wish I had ten thousand hands to give you the grandest applause that ever existed.
Thank you for saying what needs to be said.
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It's actually not true that everyone would react the same way:
1) I'd like your $3 hamburger please? We don't have that anymore, but we can give you our new SlamBurger! for $6! Oh wow, what's changed? Nothing! That's what's so great, it's exactly the same $3 burger you've come to know and love, for $6!
2) Sooo... it turns out that there's inflation and the cost of our supplies went up and we can no longer afford to sell our hamburger for $3... also we need to make some repairs and/or upgrades to our store that we think will make things better for you, like changing that horrible parking-lot problem when you come in, so you can get in and out of the store easier... and we can't do those things unless we bring in more revenue, so we've decided the only way we can be a better burger shop is to charge more for these burgers. They aren't changing - they're still going to be the same burgers you've come to know and love, and your $6 will help us better serve you!
Believe it or not, these two explanations get different reactions from customers. I know I react differently, but I also have studied this and I know for a fact that others also react differently. The reaction to 1 is usually "bilking much?" The reaction to 2 is usually "well that sucks, but you gotta do what you gotta do."
It's true that there are always a small minority of vocal objectors who complain about the #2 explanation also, but like I said, they're a minority and they're MUCH smaller than the number of people who complain about #1. Even if #2 accurately describes the situation, we want to be given #2 as the explanation, not just have the #1 explanation foisted on us. Presentation is everything.
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... bro, even gamegrumps is mocking us!
nice drawing though, i as that person, then like a cat i saw something i liked on the shelf and asked for it, forgetting why i was angry XD
i hope this gets solved soon though!
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ross was mocking DA about its policy on using our art with no warning and royalty in its newest pokemon academy.
youtu.be/pW8htyt2gCg?t=29m26s
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omg yess
Pokemon Academy is the sh/t
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Pfft, I'm totally cool with this. I mean, I don't see the reason to react, so... :I
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I love the argument "I can't afford it now"
Like they've never experienced going without something? It's not like I don't know, a rent increase. That's something to complain about. This is just making a Website that's super limited slightly fancier for real money. I went 7 years without premium just fine, now people randomly gift it to me and I'm like "Nooo plz save your money for real things...."
Hehe maybe now they'll stop gifting it...xD;
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The main argument though is that its 3x the usual price for an ugly icon and there are even less perks than before
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haha, I laughed so hard at that comic^^ all those emotiis (expressions) are sooo fitting to the drama that is going on since yesterday about that core stuff xD
I don't care that the changed the design, yeah, the orange star doesn't fit the green dA layout, but so what.....I was mad at the prize, I suppose 40 dollars would be enough too to get a PM, but now I begin to understand....dA staff wants to have an income too, I guess x3
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pft i wanna say true but I'm one of those people xD
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I'm confused, what if you have the orange star by your name but it doesn't say "core" on your page? :c
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That means you're a beta tester.
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Ohhhhh gotcha
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I've got money for a commission if you have them open!
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everyone complaining about the price increase gd
its perfectly reasonable and if you're one of the people that "can't afford it" then maybe you should think about why you're buying an online membership and not putting it to good use and not putting the $4,17 a month to something important like food
baffles me
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This is not only a classist argument (poor people aren't allowed to spend their small amounts of extra cash on things they like???) it also completely misses the fact that a huuuuge chunk of the people on deviantart are teens who obviously don't even have an income. Either they're asking their parents for a few bucks every month or they're paying for it through points/cash they earn on the site itself. Raising the price and removing the option for shorter intervals of pay is gating off a large amount of the people who actually use premium memberships to begin with, it wasn't a good move at all.
As for why the prices were increased that's a whole other issue.Β
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I never said they weren't, I'm saying that it's incredibly stupid to spend your money on something like deviantart if someone is so poor.. when you literally cannot afford $20 more per year then you need to reevaluate why you've been spending 30 per year on an online membership. it's not classist, it's common sense.
deviantart cant afford the bills either. they have to raise their prices or drop the site altogether.
the majority of people who "cant afford" the price increase are, like you mentioned, teens. asking their parents for $4,17 a month for work they do around the house really isn't that big; unless, of course their family is dirt broke, then they also need to reevaluate why they're wasting that money. pretty sure that those teens can wait two years to get a job, considering the minimum age to be on dA is 13 and you can start working at 15.
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Why close off premium memberships to the largest demographic who buys them in the first place?Β
Also the thing about being poor (coming from someone who isn't very well off) is that you never have enough money at once to spend large chunks of it all at once on simple things like deviant art. You're right, premium memberships aren't that important. But say, someone only ever has $100 or so dollars of spending money every month, a large chunk of that's gonna go to other things. Maybe they need new clothes, maybe they want to buy a new video game, maybe they want to go out and see a movie. It's pretty easy to throw the leftover $5ish dollars deviant arts way every month. $15-$50 is a whole different problem. You can't say something like "If you can spend an average of $30 a year on deviant art over time, then clearly you can afford to spend all that money at once for the annual membership" because that's not how budgeting works when you're poor. If someone only has $100 dollars of spending money they're gonna need to spend literally half that and only have $50 left over for whatever else they wanted to do that month. Like you said, deviantart isn't nearly important enough to warrent such a large amount of money wasted on it at once if you can't just be throwing that kind of cash around.
That's why I say the "lol just dont buy it if ur so poor why were u buying it in the first place" is classist. It clearly comes from a place of not knowing how hard budgeting is when you're poor, its not really anyone's place to question what a poor person spends what little extra money they have on. They're allowed to buy themselves little things.Β
And I get that deviantart needs to raise their prices to support the site, but they probably should have made that clear and warned everybody first. A large amount of the backlash Core is receiving is because of the lack of communication and poor planning on the staffs part.
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that's why you save up $4,17 a month. not spend it all at once. don't take me for classist when all our family can afford to eat is ramen noodles. poor people can buy whatever the hell they want, the majority of people who truly can afford it but are saying they can't need to get over it.
if $20 more per year is such an issue, you don't need to be buying it in the first place. do people not consider something bad happening that they need money for? what are they going to do when they are apparently so poor they couldn't afford the price increase but they were spending $30 per year anyway?
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Like I said, $30 a year over time is completely different than $30 all at once. Most people already have emergency money saved up, nobody is spending their last pennies and dimes on a deviant art membership, but at the same time not everyone can afford to throw $30 all at once towards deviantart for a few extra features. Some people make all their money off of this site, some people need to keep getting premium memberships to support themselves and their artistic career. Artists are notoriously poor. This price increase as well as the removal for a cheaper (but overall more expensive) option is a huge slap in the face to their community.Β
Its the same as say, buying a pack 20 of toilet paper costs $10, but buying a 1000 pack costs $50. Overall, you get waaaay more toilet paper for your money. But who the hell has $50 to spend on toilet paper in the first place. Of course most people are going to be buying the $10 pack. Toilet paper isn't so important that you need to save $50 to get more at once or something, its better to just get the cheaper but less valued pack.
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I understand that, but what I'm trying to say, is that anyone who was both poor and buying yearly was clearly saving up money in the first place. they can't do that again?
and if they were paying monthly the prices have lowered, in all technicalities, from $4,95 to $4,17. lowered.
my whole argument is save up. that $100 at the end of the month? pitch 5 bucks to a piggybank and buy the membership at the end of the year.Β
and anyone making all their money off dA doesn't need a membership regardless. no one does.Β
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I'm gonna stop arguing with you about this because you are really clearly missing my point. I'm specifically talking about not only the price hike but also the removal of the cheaper/shorter options. Like I said in my last comment, nobodys gonna save up an entire year for something as unimportant as a deviantart membership.Β
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if it's so unimportant why does it need to be a big issue?
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Its not a "big issue" but if a huge amount of people were using the cheapest option that they now removed, of course they're gonna be upset. Nobody wants to have to save up for a deviantart membership and they're not helping themselves by cutting off part of their users like that. That's all I was trying to say. (I don't even use premium, never have. So I'm not arguing from a biased standpoint.) I just think it was a bad move and people going around saying "lololol why'd u buy it in the first place" are really missing the point, like you are.
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I see what you mean, but most people are basing their argument off the point that because they raised the yearly price, they can't afford it all of a sudden, which would mean that they were saving up anyway.
and of course removing the monthly option was a poor choice, I don't really know why dA removed it other than to encourage people to buy higher amounts of membership.
I don't use premium membership either, no do I go around yellingΒ "lololol why'd u buy it in the first place"
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i love your explanation in the description. it explains this whole thing and i really needed to see it. people should get a grip, honestly.
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What does core membership even do? You only get a star beside your username?
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it removes adds and you are able to do more things on your page , like backgrounds and have different kind of sections
and a lot more small things that are just a little bit nicer x)
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I hate how they fired 50% of their workforce and then need more money afterwardsΒ
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this is exactly how I feel about the whole situation xD
don't like it / can't afford it? Then just don't buy xP
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I've seen to many people complain about the prices too. Honestly for the yearly bundle you're looking at $4.17US (or $5.31 CND) a month, that's literally not that much. Ah well people with stop being verbal about it in a week, but will still be bitter, and if core comes out of beta and becomes finalized then there will be another week of complaining. It's the whiny users of dA way lol.
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It's just the fact somebody made a journal saying how they wouldn't be able to afford food because they have to pay for college, doctors, insurance, and many more things. And when they do have a few spare bucks they use it on friends and family.
5 dollars may not seem like a whole lot to you, but maybe some of us have mental or physical conditions that need an extra 5 dollars
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So then the moral of the story (and this comic) is live without the few extra paid benefits and don't buy it.
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Shut up xDDD
We closed the conversation already
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Agreed. DeviantART is the primary place I market my work. And outside of my art, I work retail. Does anyone know how much that pays?
Not a lot.
Granted, DA is a luxury, but one I am willing to cut out of my life because of this. If I can't afford it, I'll just leave. I've spent too much time and money on this page. :I
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There are a lot of other places you can move and even get a fresh start to get anything bad off your shoulders, I'm already moving tumblr to get away from the unavoidable deviantart members - tumblr I believe is usually easier to avoid the 'bad' guys
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Yep, I've already made my art blog on Tumblr. It looks almost like my DA page. XD
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I don't care a8out the price, but really, it looks hori88le! It hurts the eyes and it looks broken from the site
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lol. this is so awesome.Β
But some people just cant afford it now. It increased by like 20 dollars?Β
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not really. per year was very discounted, but now the per year price matches up a bit better. before it was $5 if you bought it monthly, now it breaks down to less than $5 but charged yearly. saving $4,17 a month for it and buying it at the end of the year really isn't asking much.
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Ah, i see. Didnt think that much about it. X3
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dA just kinda charged less than what they could afford, since dA's grown they kinda needed to fill that gap
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