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Published: 2010-06-29 14:11:58 +0000 UTC; Views: 7310; Favourites: 196; Downloads: 26
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I know this might raise a shitstorm, but I still decided to do it, to speak up my mind. Anyway, once again if you wish to argue this matter, please do so in a civil way. If I hide comments, that's simply because whoever wrote them refused to act decently.
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Really? True, True BUT!!!! You can not MAKE somebody give birth if they do not want to. What if a teen got pregnant and they did not want to? ABORTION. IS. THE. ONLY. CHOICE. The baby does not give a fuck either way :/
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if a teen got pregnant and she didn't want to, then she should wait for the baby and then put it on adoption
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By that logic, it's okay to kill a sleeping baby or a comatose person.
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IT IS A BUNCH OF CELLS
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No it's not, it's a baby. On the other hand, you're not a person, you're just a piece of trash.
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no it is a bunch of cells to a certain point. And please google the definition of baby/fetus.
perhaps^^
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I'll admit the first 2 months are arguable, after that it's as bad as killing a born baby.
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in the country I live it is alloed till the first three months
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i normally don't reply to these edgy comments, but technically the fetus is a small clump of cells, it's only when 5 or so months pass that it begins to gain human features and so, but either way it's brain isn't fully developed yet so if someone does decide to get an abortion for whatever reason it doesn't really understand what's going on and has zero emotions so it doesn't really give a fuck either way
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It's alive long before 5 months.
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I don't think this is an edgy matter at all. Cells are functioning things, yeah? Plus, I know it doesn't have emotions, but still, I think it's living. Also to be honest I don't know why still people are replying like?
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That's a terrible thing to say.
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It is a human being. So what? It's not outside of the womb yet. But guess what, two human beings made that child. It is taking in nutrients and air, and it's moving. What makes it "not human?" Because it's not born yet?
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Depending on country, the difinition of a baby differ. Until a certain point we are talking an embryo. For a short period of time, the egg won't even be attatched to the uterus. Then we have the basic cell division, where the cells come in one big cluster, with no specific aim other than being stemcells, that can evolve to whatever. Around week 7 you get a heartbeat. But up until week 12, it's fairly common for the embryo to die - even though you may have seen the heart, even though this reduces the risk of the embryo to die dramatically.
Where I live, every body can get an abortion up until that time week 12. After this, we can get dispencation to around week 20, and in rare cases, where they don't notice anything wrong until very late, but the child won't survive outside og the womb, or only survive for a very short time, it's possible to get an abortion even later.
I have 2 kids. We got tested with both because of a chromosomal abnormality I have, and we didn't want kids with this abonrmality. It wouldn't be murder. It would bee a question of us owning up to our responsibilities. We want kids yes. But we want them to start off as good as possible. You never know what migth happen. They could get hurt early on or later in life, and get disabled. But why should we get our hearts broken, every time we saw our sick child, knowing we could have prevented the childs suffering, just because people like you, haven't got a clue about the big picture?
If you have the means to take care of your kids, no matte what may or may not be wrong with them, then please, go right ahead. Don't choose abortion as an option for yourself. But don't judge every body else that has a different oppinion that you, just because you can't relate.
And FYI - a baby in the womb is not taking in air. It's living of off moms blood. Kinda like a intestine parasite.
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I know how child development works.
I don't care if you accidentally get pregnant and due to health issues, can't have the child. That will be the only time I will be okay with abortion. Oh, and I'm not judging anyone by getting abortion. I think it's awful, and it's not the right thing to do, but I didn't straight-up say, "people who get abortions are stupid" or something.
I'm also pretty positive that oxygen flows through the blood stream a bit, so ever-so technically is the baby taking in air.
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Well clearly you don't
And yes, you are judging. You get very agressive in your writing style. Calling abortion murder and what not.
Just like I'm juding your point of view (or the way you defend it anyway) to be based on ignorance.
About the air thing, you do know there's other things than oxygen in the air right? That oxygen is actually only about 21% - so you can't really argue that the transportation of oxygen in the bloodstream is the same as transportation of air.
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Wow, you're going to insult me? I went to school, I know how it works, and that's the reason why I'm against abortion.
So you call me out judging and then you admit to judging me? Psh.
I am actually fully aware of it, because as stated, it takes in oxygen, which is a component of air. Stop treating me like I'm in elementary school just because I think abortion is murder. You seriously think I'm mindless just because I don't like people basically killing their developing children?
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No, I'm just saying that a lot of your arguments are naive in my honest oppinion
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Naive? Okay, whatever. I have many people that agree with me on my terms.
I'm fully aware of that.
I don't call people murderers because of abortion- I might think it but I never straight-up said "people who get abortions are murderers."
What style of argument? I provide reasoning to why I come to that conclusion- I should be taken seriously, and I do!
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let's look up the definition of "baby"
ba·by
ˈbābē/
noun
1.
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
Do you see "someone who isn't born yet"?No so a fetus ain't a baby
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Fetus is the Latin word for baby.
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A baby can be an unborn child. And even if it didn't follow the definition, how is a human fetus "not a human being?"
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you might as well ban birth control then cuz that's basically killing the baby before its even made
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Why do you reply with that to something about babies qualifying for an unborn human child?
But anyways, my views on birth control are the same as abortion, though if a woman is using birth control for things like menstrual cramps I don't see the harm in it, but yeah eventually they'd just have to get rid of it all together if they did.
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nope
I'll show you ALL the definitions of a baby
ba·by
ˈbābē/
noun
1.
a very young child, especially one newly or recently born.
informal
a young woman or a person with whom one is having a romantic relationship (often as a form of address).
adjective
1.
comparatively small or immature of its kind.
verb
1.
treat (someone) as a baby; pamper or be overprotective toward.
do you see a definition saying "an unborn child"?No ya don't
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So how does baby not being defined as an unborn child (which it can be used as) result in a developing human being not be categorized with the human race?
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let's just stop arguing
I'm pro-choice your pro-life and also
you can NEVER change my opinion about abortion I believe it should be legal,you think the opposite.
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If I had my way, unnecessary abortion should be illegal.
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I'm not trying to change your opinion, to me you're just sounding a bit wrong. Like I don't know how an unborn human ≠ human being because "baby" is not defined under "unborn child," and I'm trying to think like you.
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This comment is beautiful. So many face palms at the right comment.
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If you can't even respect my opinion then don't reply. I think it's murder because you're ending a developing life, and you most likely think it's not murder because "it's not illegal," "the life isn't developed yet," or whatever, and I respect that. Throwing out your opinion on this website gets butthurt people throwing themselves at you left and right.
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It can think yet though. It's barely a living thing at the time of most abortions. And don't you pull that 'moment of conception bullshit on me.'
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It may not be thinking, but it is still a growing human being. And even if it is "barely" living, it can still be considered murder because, as said, it's a growing being.
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The definition of Murder is illegally killing someone. Abortion is not illegal
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But it should be, barring rape victims, minors and people that are in danger.
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slavery was legal. was it right though?
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Wow, there is literally no comparison between these two subjects. If you're going to talk about how you think abortion is wrong, then you REALLY shouldn't be comparing it to a more serious topic. Abortion was created to help, not hurt. And really, how does enslaving people of a different colour or ethnicity against their will relate to this?
Rant over.
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dude, i just said that about slavery to show making something legal =/= making it right. If you want another example, some countries today (i don't remember which ones) have rape and incest legal. some places even legalized murder. Does that mean it's right?
and this doesn't seem to hurt at all (sarcasm) (at minute 13): www.youtube.com/watch?v=gON-8P… ;
same for these: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgw4X7…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5THDmy…
i did not mean to compare abortion and slavery in any way. I was just saying that just because abortion legal does not mean it's right.
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It may be legal, but you're still taking an innocent, defenseless soul away.
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Not everyone is religious. The "soul" argument is invalid.
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I'm not religious either, I'm an atheist, but I'm just trying to say that you're still killing something.
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