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"Consent to sex is NOT consent to pregnancy!"When two (or more
) adults consent to sex, that is the ONLY thing they are consenting to: Sex. Nothing more, nothing less. There is a MASSIVE difference between the two, and although they may be linked does not mean that they are to be consented to by the mere act of sex.If consent to sex is consent to pregnancy, you might as well throw out all treatment for STIs and STDs. Because: "Oh! Well they shouldn't of had sex in the first place if they didn't want to get and STD! Serves them right!"
Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy ESPECIALLY if the two were using protection. We are no longer living in the 1950s, where if a woman got pregnant she had to get married and produce as many babies as possible. We have safe and accessible options, like abortion and adoption. We have birth control, that has a near 100% non-failure rate if used correctly.
If consent to sex is consent to pregnancy, can't a woman or a man say no during intercourse? Of course not! Consent to sex can be withdrawn.
And even if it were consent to pregnancy, there's still horrific things like rape. Where the woman didn't consent to sex at all, no matter what she was wearing/drinking/doing
If sex was only for procreation, what about all of the infertile couples? Elderly people? Homosexual people? Can't they enjoy the pleasure of sex?
The purpose of sex, even in a 'sacrament of marriage' context, is not ONLY to reproduce. It's about intimacy and closeness and expressing love. So you can do all that, and consent to all that, without it involving procreation.
Here's a fact for you all: if it were only for procreation, the female orgasm would be completely unnecessary.
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The female orgasm is responsible for creating a sort of βsuctionβ of sperm into the womb. When a woman cums,she experiences multiple contractions as if she is milking her partner. SoΒ no,the female orgasm does play a role in procreation. Though be it a minor one. Itβs not 100% needed for pregnancy but it does help the odds. And secondly,it feels fucking good. Why would women have sex if it had absolutely no benefit for them? Β Simple,we wouldnβt do it. Orgasms are a reward. For both women and men.Β
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Well said!
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Yes it is that is the only point of doing it.
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No it's not I don't want to get pregnant everytime I fuck my boyfriend ok
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Lots of people have sex for pleasure. Not everyone that has sex wants to get pregnant!
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Oh yes it is. Sex is what makes pregnancy happen genius.
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Unless you're using some form of birth control; you accept the risk of becoming pregnant. Until modern medical procedures the only way to have children was to have sex.Β
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Yeah but you CHOSE to have sex and if it was unprotected sex YOU are at fault. If you don't want kids don't have sex.
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You are wrong.
Pregnancy is a possibility of sex. Therefore pregnancy comes with sex, and is more or less a consent.
I, however, don't really understand the point you are making. You cannot exactly stop pregnancy from happening, can you? It only takes a few seconds or so to become pregnant, and nothing can be done to stop it. You can withdraw from the sexual activity, but that will not stop the pregnancy from happening.
Also, the purpose of sex is reproduction. That's a fact. Of course it can be used how you want without exception, but that does not change the basic facts. Of course, animals engage in sexual activity, though most don't do it for any other reason than pregnancy. Of course, animals have nothing to do with people, but the acts of sex still remain the same. And yes, anyone can enjoy the pleasure of sex. Of course, you are missing the basic facts again. Sex is for reproduction. That does not mean that two people of the same sex cannot have sex, but rather it just means there won't be any pregnancy for obvious reasons. You could argue that nature never intended for any type of sex other than hetrosexual sex seeing as only hetrosexual sex can result in pregnancies.
Sounds to me as if you cannot accept facts or take responsibility for your actions.
If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. It isn't difficult to understand, is it? It's not like your rights are being violated or anything.
Also, the woman is the one getting pregnant, therefore it's the woman's resposibility to take precautions to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Your body after all.
Simple stuff, right?
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That last bit on the female orgasm was awesome. 
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Well, tat may be true but they do consent o the possibility. any time you have sex, even protected, you accept the risk of pregnancy
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Then a contraceptive should be used during intercourse.Β
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People who say pregnancy is a consent to sex don't know what the word means. They're confusing consequence with the word.
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Don't forget that some men can be absolute bastards and fake using protection. Personally never had it happen to me, but I have seen cases of other women who had that happen...
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The comment above says 'some men' not 'all men'.Β Β
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If you know the potential consequences to having sex, you probably shouldn't be having sex, or take better precautions.
Same way if you were to eat nothing but cake everyday for every meal, maybe you should eat real food if you don't want to get fat.
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The difference is that you can't get overweight from one round of it and you can take contraception to prevent pregnancy... And that contraception can still fail. Not to mention you can get pregnant without concent, such as being drunk.
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If a personΒ still chose to have sex, they're partially responsible for the fetus being there in the first place.Β
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You are a troll if you are doing this here too!
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You're the one that replied to somebody that agreed with me. And for the record I don't want to see people dying from illegal abortins, I don't want abortions to happen at all barring necessary circumstances.
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I was talking to someone else, you moron. Want abortions to go down? Allow it, the studies are there. You just ignore it.
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That's a ridiculous argument, you're claiming there are people that have illegal abortions that wouldn't abort if it were legal. And I'm aware that you weren't talking to me, but you were talking to somebody that agreed with me about how "consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy" isn't a valid argument.
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I showed you the statistics. You didn't listen.
Because I was talking to someone else, doesn't mean I was talking to you. Especially when I ALREADY AM, YOU TROLL
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I already said that if a person's prepared to risk their life for an abortion, that's their own fault, nobody was forcing them to do that.
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Stop being a troll. They wouldn't be risking their lives if they had the proper facilities, and there is still a possibility of death like I said
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They're risking their lives for something completely unnecessary. As for the risks of pregnancy, see my other posts.
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Clearly, you haven't been reading mine if that is your response
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Eek... I know these replies are a few months old, but hey, I made a comment on a page and I was talking to the OP originally, not you... so.... I guess in this situation you would be... A hypocrite! 
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Do you know what the difference is? This moron Β has a fixation on arguing against abortion with me. Plus how am I a hypocrite here? I was talking to you, then she butted in when I was long sick of having to deal with her bullshit, especially since the COMMENTED ON ME MULTIPLE TIMES IN MULTIPLE PLACES. If you bothered reading, you can see that we reference that we were talking in multiple places.
Don't you dare insult me with not only an accusation the is dead wrong and makes no sense, but reminding me she existed. Seriously, you are irritatingΒ me if this is the road you want to go down.
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I doubt they put that much effort into it
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I think your blood pressure just skyrocketed for no reason. Chill out dude, I was joking. Get off your high horse. Sorry for not reading comments that aren't necessarily my business...??? Annnddd I joked about the hypocrite thing cuz you said you weren't talking to her, you were talking to me... but I was talking to that person first, and you included yourself in the "conversation." That's where that came from. Just sayin. Man, you shouldn't take trolls so seriously. It's not healthy.
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The difference was I WAS ALREADY TALKING TO HER, ON THE SAME SUBJECT NO LESS! And she was a complete psycho as at one point we started with LGBT rights... and then she switched it back to abortion.
Don'tΒ patronise me
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I'm not patronizing you, you're just taking shit waaayyyyyyyyy too seriously
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You mean where the bitch went out of her way to annoy me?
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