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I know this might raise a shitstorm, but I still decided to do it, to speak up my mind. Anyway, once again if you wish to argue this matter, please do so in a civil way. If I hide comments, that's simply because whoever wrote them refused to act decently.Related content
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twistedgear In reply to ??? [2012-06-11 03:49:33 +0000 UTC]
Exactly it's just killing an it ,we refer to it ,as an it so that are conscience are clean.
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xxXCannibal In reply to ??? [2012-06-07 01:16:43 +0000 UTC]
I want to hump your brilliant mind, good person YOU HAVE LOGIC . Funny thing is if i ever found myself pregnant i would kill myself isn't pro life (Anti choice) a wonderous thing?
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Morthax In reply to xxXCannibal [2012-06-08 18:01:17 +0000 UTC]
Lol, you may hump my mind all you want.
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kmathel94 In reply to ??? [2012-02-07 23:28:00 +0000 UTC]
True but why does one feel bad after watching a murder? Why did millions of mothers, siblings, fathers, and even compleate strangers cry out in anguish when 9/11 happened? Why will a mother give her dieing breath to protect the most helpless creature on the planet?
People kill animals all the time we eat eggs, is it wrong? I suppose, what does that mean...perhaps it means i'm going to hell, perhaps I won't. But isn't the world just a little brighter when a child smiles?
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Bat-Snake In reply to kmathel94 [2012-10-31 16:03:08 +0000 UTC]
Well, technically, the eggs we eat are unfertilized...so I guess that means we're eating chicken menstruation.
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kmathel94 In reply to Bat-Snake [2013-01-08 22:51:47 +0000 UTC]
LOL true just imagine what honey is?
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kmathel94 In reply to Bat-Snake [2013-01-09 00:23:24 +0000 UTC]
"shivers" yep...I think
Almost everting is disgusting once you think about it luckly for me /i'm ussually to hungery to care LOL
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Bat-Snake In reply to kmathel94 [2013-01-09 00:55:24 +0000 UTC]
Haha, that's kind of true XD
I'm not totally sure on honey, but I know pollen is a big part of it.
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kmathel94 In reply to Bat-Snake [2013-01-09 19:21:54 +0000 UTC]
Pollen is...never mind I'm to squemish to say out loud.
But yea...kinda makes all the cleaning humans do seem kind of futile dont ya think?
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Morthax In reply to kmathel94 [2012-02-08 17:35:58 +0000 UTC]
It was people who died in 9/11, real, living people. Not just a bunch of cells that will be a person at some point. They were real people, and of course people in all countries were shocked of such devastation.
And what comes to eggs and animals, the key word there is EAT. There's a reason for killing the animals, we're humans and we eat meat along with all the other things we can consume. Why would that be wrong, we have to eat just like any other animal.
And that whole...world gets a little brighter when a child smiles,well... it's kinda true. I saw a bunch of kids at work today, and they seemed to have good time, they certainly smiled and laughed. Sure, that made my day a little brighter. Until I realized they had stolen something from the store I work in, right under my nose.
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kmathel94 In reply to Morthax [2012-02-08 20:12:36 +0000 UTC]
True, true and hehehe. Yea it all comes down to you and your creator. If you kill(and I do mean kill)a child and your creator is all for it than good for you.
I'm not your creator, so I can't tell you what to do. But the potental of a child may be the greatist recorce humans have. I beg you and others to consider weather or not the child should even have a chance.
(I'm not trying to start trouble, just get my opinion out their. You'd be surrprised what that can do.)
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Morthax In reply to kmathel94 [2012-02-08 20:21:35 +0000 UTC]
Oh well, the word creator just..smells like god here, and god smells like religion, and we're not starting to talk about that here, I hope. This has nothing to do with any of that, it's just about freedom of choice. And sure, any aborted fetus may have become a great individual, for example they might have been the person to find a cure to cancer. Or maybe they would have been the next crazy lunatic like Hitler. Who knows.
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kmathel94 In reply to Morthax [2012-02-08 20:31:49 +0000 UTC]
Is't it worth the risk if the child can make life just a little bit better. Ohhh better yet why dont we kill everybody scence they all could become evil...no wait thats not the answer. What is the answer...perhaps we could try to make the world better ourselves...but wait that would involve getting up!
(moral-anything and everything can and WILL happen, we as humman beings just have to grin and bear it, and try better the next time. And who knows maybe well figure it out one day)
As for the word creator, perhaps the word "concience" would be better suited?
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Pandapaw5160 In reply to ??? [2012-02-05 00:25:01 +0000 UTC]
I disagree highly. Life begins the moment of your conception. Murder is the taking of other's life. Abortion is the taking of a child's life. It will never see the light of day. It is torn from it's so called "mother" before it can even breathe independently. I have read in an earlier comment written by you that both your parents were alcoholics, but I have also read that your mother tried to contact you. Obviously she cared about you. A woman considering abortion cares very little about the child in her womb. A child is torn apart and thrown away. That, in my opinion, is actually worse than the murder of Mary Kelly. Yes she was a prositute but she had a full life before she was torn apart by Jack the Ripper. An aborted fetus will never have a chance at life.
Just an opinion but I think most will agree.
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Morthax In reply to Pandapaw5160 [2012-02-05 10:31:19 +0000 UTC]
Well it's obvious that I disagree with your opinion, so I'm not going to even go there, but I would like to just point out that yes, my biological parents were alcoholics, but it was my father who made an effort to contact me. Surely my mother has written her name on some of the christmas cards I've received over the years, but that stopped ages ago. I have no clue why, maybe she's dead, and I don't even care. She never cared one bit, she didn't have the backbone to finally abort even though all her children had been taken away because she and my father were unfit as parents. It may sound weird, but I shouldn't have been born, that would have been the right thing to do.
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Pandapaw5160 In reply to Morthax [2012-02-05 23:10:51 +0000 UTC]
In your case abortion would seem like the right thing to do but you have had a chance to live. In all honesty, you should be taking your case as a motive against abortion. You obviously had a foster family or something in that nature. You are living life and have found some means of happiness in your life. It's not that she didn't have the backbone to abort you. She had enough guts to bring you into this life. Although you must look on her with hate but your father cared enough to convince her otherwise. You must have been placed with another family and lived a successful life I presume. You must make someone in your life happy that you exist. The fact that you're here in this life makes a difference in someone's life. Maybe someone you know now or someone you will know.
I know that you disagree with my opinion but I would really like to know what you would want to say about it. You bring up your parents alot but never adress why in other situations that abortion is okay. I would really like to hear your opinion.
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Morthax In reply to Pandapaw5160 [2012-02-05 23:51:44 +0000 UTC]
well obviously I have a family, after I got taken away from my biological parents, I was fortunate enough to be adopted when I was 8 months old, and I know the people who adopted me love me as I love them and call them my family, not the two spineless idiots who decided to have kids while they couldn't take care of any of them.
And what comes to my mother having guts to go though with expecting me? Well I wouldn't call that courage, guts or anything positive. What she should have done was to get the alcohol issue under control, and then, AND ONLY THEN, have children she could have loved and taken care of herself. No woman should never, ever give birth to a child who has alcohol in their blood when they are born, who cry the first six months of their life because they are hurt. What kind of mother would do such a thing. Mine did. And I'm not just preaching here, I had the balls to do what was right years ago. I was pregnant when I was 17, no issues with alcohol though, but I had the spine to admit I wouldn't be a fit mother (never mind the fact the father was completely insane, really), and because I want to raise my children myself like surely all of us want to, I decided to rather terminate the pregnancy than have a child I couldn't raise and love myself.
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Pandapaw5160 In reply to Morthax [2012-02-06 00:42:33 +0000 UTC]
What I meant by your mother having guts to go through with her pregancy was that she brought you into this life without killing you first. Your biological parents must have thought they were ready for children but how could they care for another human being without caring for themselves. I will agree that they should have gotten the alcoholism under control first. I believe that you were strong enough to say that you wouldn't have been a fit mother at the age of 17 but you could of have the child then placed it up for adoption. Yes, I would love to raise my children myself but if I was pregnant and I believed that I wasn't a fit enough mother I would do anything before killing the child. In my opinion, abortion is the last option you should resort to. Adoption and many others seem like a more logical choice before murder.
I'm sorry about the first six months of your life. It really wasn't a great way to greet you into this world.
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Morthax In reply to Pandapaw5160 [2012-02-06 10:44:33 +0000 UTC]
Well I'm sure it may have sounded like a good idea while they were drunk, having me I mean. And I still think there was nothing great or brave or awesome about going through with it. Admitting that they were unable to be parents would have been. All their previous children had been taken away, so why the fuck would I have been any different. Choosing abortion would have shown more care and empathy, to get rid of a fetus that would become a child instead of giving birth to a broken and hurt mess like myself. And adoption, sure I can understand that, but not for me, I'd never give my child away. I'm not sure why, maybe it's just because of what has happened to me, what I have been thinking all my life, how angry I am about all this shit, I can't bear the thought of having a child out there somewhere, raised by someone else, angry at me and asking these same things I've been wondering about.
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Pandapaw5160 In reply to Morthax [2012-02-06 17:35:47 +0000 UTC]
I believe that it was what happened that you can't bear the thought. You obviously loved the child enough not to give it away but could not find another option other than aborting it. You believed that another child should no be put through almost the same thing that you lived through. Although that is a noble cause, there are other situations that abortion is brought into play. Sometimes a girl is either too scared to raise a child because she will get the reputation of a slut or something along those lines. I don't think that my life would be the same if I was a mother at age 17. There is also rape a woman goes through and gets pregnant from that. It's not really the child's fault. I guess in your situation your biological parents after the first child that was taken away should have really gotten everything under control before bonking each other's brains out. I believe that yes in your case abortion would have been the more reasonable thing or they could have just avoided sex. I will agree with you on that but people can find really silly reasons for abortion then just start doing it again. Not really a great idea in my opinion. I think that life hasn't always treated you well and you're still pretty annoyed about your own experiences.
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TillShilohComes In reply to ??? [2011-11-06 13:49:42 +0000 UTC]
Pinkbunny is correct, the aborted are not given the chance to object to their murder, they are silent victims of a crime that has destroyed millions of lives.
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TillShilohComes In reply to Morthax [2011-11-07 01:29:36 +0000 UTC]
Really. And while you think it funny, thank God your mother did not look at you the way you look at the lives of millions of unborn children. That she did not decide to have you torn, ripped apart in her womb and thrown in a garbage bin.
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Morthax In reply to TillShilohComes [2011-11-07 05:25:48 +0000 UTC]
My biological mother and father were both alcoholics, never planned to have me, have had all their children taken away by authorities because they were unfit parents and their children, as strong as this may sound, could have died. Oh and my "real" mother has never, in 23 years, made an effort to contact me. Yes, clearly she cares about her children.
You never thought of that, did you.
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TillShilohComes In reply to Morthax [2011-11-07 06:45:03 +0000 UTC]
You are here though, because she did not abort you. Someone raised you and you can comment here, maybe commenting on alcoholisim might be more appropriate? Tell me honestly, do you wish you had been aborted? Do you wish you were not here? I have had my life traumas too, don't mean that I support the murder of the unborn because of them.
I could play the 'victim card' here too if I wanted, at least you are here to do so. The murdered unborn don't have that luxury.
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Morthax In reply to TillShilohComes [2011-11-07 14:46:59 +0000 UTC]
If I had been aborted, I wouldn't have an opinion, I would have never known I existed since fetuses are not people. Well it seems like you missed my point so...
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TillShilohComes In reply to Morthax [2011-11-07 16:23:04 +0000 UTC]
Seems like you missed mine also.
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Morthax In reply to TillShilohComes [2011-11-07 19:12:55 +0000 UTC]
No, I'm having quite a bit of fun actually.
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PinkBuunny In reply to ??? [2011-10-11 02:12:35 +0000 UTC]
I've noticed something...
"All people that support abortions have been born."
I shit you not.
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Morthax In reply to PinkBuunny [2011-10-11 12:15:52 +0000 UTC]
Yes, thank you, captain obvious. Your point?
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PinkBuunny In reply to Morthax [2011-10-11 20:12:26 +0000 UTC]
My point?
Did not read what I typed?
"PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT ABORTION HAVE ALREADY BEEN BORN."
I thought it was as clear as fucking glass. My point is that people who support abortion have already been born. I mean, could you not figure it out? Are you retarded? The result of a failed abortion?
Do you want deeper meaning because I can figure something out if you do.
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Morthax In reply to PinkBuunny [2011-10-11 21:42:56 +0000 UTC]
I was just wondering if there was something else than the flaming obvious.
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PinkBuunny In reply to Morthax [2011-10-11 23:48:38 +0000 UTC]
Nope. Just food for thought that you might not have actually pondered on!
G'day.
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Zelphyr117 In reply to ??? [2011-08-29 01:20:23 +0000 UTC]
This, sir, is amazing. Immediate fave.
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yuri4boris In reply to ??? [2011-08-07 20:44:39 +0000 UTC]
I AGREE! ;D
but only to a certain time i think abortion is ok.
meaning at the begining of the pregnancey (when its just like blob and not a baby becuase they dont feel pain or anything)
other then that i think its a good idear becuase some times the baby will not have a good life why put it thought all that?
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Cloud-Strifes-Yuffie In reply to ??? [2011-08-01 20:08:11 +0000 UTC]
I should start with there are very few cases I will stand for abortion (like a few others below) because (I feel its wrong for most occasions). But so are people flaming your opinion like they are right now, that is also wrong of them.
It really is your choice, and no one should walk away from you from it, nor should they hate on you because they really don't understand why you preformed such action.
No one knows your story, which is quite sad to see so many people get angry with you or at least try to understand. I'm glad to see you still stand strong, and whatever the reason, thank you for sharing your opinion.
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kakayayadodo In reply to ??? [2011-07-20 21:55:49 +0000 UTC]
"a person, a person ,no matter how small"
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Morthax In reply to kakayayadodo [2011-07-20 22:04:55 +0000 UTC]
An embryo/fetus is not a person.
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kakayayadodo In reply to Morthax [2011-07-20 22:11:55 +0000 UTC]
SHUT UP , IT IS A PERSON!!!!!
HOW DO YOU THINK BABIES ARE COMING INTO THE WORLD ?
FROM THEIR MOTHER !
mean pregnancy
and how are they during a pregnancy
IDK
A EMBRYO / FETUS!
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