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Morthax β€” Abortion is not

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Description I know this might raise a shitstorm, but I still decided to do it, to speak up my mind. Anyway, once again if you wish to argue this matter, please do so in a civil way. If I hide comments, that's simply because whoever wrote them refused to act decently.
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Morthax In reply to ??? [2013-04-27 07:26:53 +0000 UTC]

not really, no.

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Thorned-Wolfara-Rose In reply to Morthax [2013-04-27 12:25:02 +0000 UTC]

Allrighty then.

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Brisingr-Arget In reply to ??? [2013-04-19 07:23:31 +0000 UTC]

Before I give my opinions, I would like to know the reasoning behind your own. Mainly in the interest of productive and civilized discussion.

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No15-Nathax In reply to ??? [2013-04-19 00:34:57 +0000 UTC]

You obviously never seen the contents of the surgical bucket otherwise there'd be no way any decent human being could say that.
There is no denying that fetuses are human and killing other humans IS murder. There is no refuting it, there's no justification, just excuses and selfishness. If ending a life just because its inconveinient isn't selfish I don't know what is.

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-19 03:41:04 +0000 UTC]

I saw the fetus when it came out of me, does that count for anything? The tiny little would-have-been-human thing. I know what it looks like, it had like arms and legs already coming out, no fingers or anything, more like flippery floppery flippers. And I'm still saying that's no murder.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-21 08:41:56 +0000 UTC]

Then you're not only wrong you're stupid as well.
But worse than that- if you truely believe that in your heart then you're a monster.
People like you are the reason why I fight everyday for rights of the unborn and will continue till I help to create a future where people are not as blind as you.

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BlueWolf007 In reply to No15-Nathax [2014-07-31 08:26:08 +0000 UTC]

Then become a surrogate who carries and nurtures unwanted fetuses to full term, adopt, pour your expenses into developing an artificial "womb" for unwanted and 'would be' aborted children to develop in, raise said kids which you forced into this world or keep to yourself.

Do YOU have to endure the physical torture that is pregnancy? Do YOU have to push a watermelon sized being out of your dick hole? No? Then no one cares. XD

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-21 10:01:33 +0000 UTC]

Believe what? That making a baby in the middle of what was going on with me and my life would have been the worst idea ever? I'm not lying when I say if I gave birth at that point of my life, I might have killed myself, and/or my baby or it would have been away from me by force because I was unfit to care for it. I'd rather terminate the pregnancy than have something terrible happen. And what I did was right, for me and for that thing that would have been my child.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-21 17:51:54 +0000 UTC]

Didn't you say that you didn't see your aborted child as human? Might've been someone else I'm currently sparing with, but I'm usually very good about keeping everyone straight :/
If your mother had been unfit to care for you would you rather she had done you in and nipped you in the bud, as it where? Or would you rather she had carried you to term and gave you up to those who could've taken care of you?

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-21 18:13:12 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't call that lump human. Sure it had some legs and arms growing and all but still, wasn't a baby to me.

And my biological mother WAS unfit to care for me. I was born with alcohol in my system and I spent the first 6 months of my life in pain because of that. And I was taken away when I was 8 months old because clearly my alcoholic parents weren't fit to care for me. I have no love for people that cruel, and quite frankly if my mother had any sense at all, she would have aborted me rather than give birth and watch me suffer.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-22 04:13:50 +0000 UTC]

Oh brother, you honestly expect me to feel sorry for pain that you felt AS AN INFANT!?!
Granted, that is a terrible thing, but there is no way you remember any of that. That'd be like me saying that my circumcision was a traumatic event.
However if you really wish that you were dead now- with all the things that you've experienced good and bad, all the people whose lives you might've touched and touched yours in turn- then you are a sad person.
If that is truely how you feel then it sounds to me like you need help. Because honestly, thoughts like those are some of the most selfish things that I've ever heard- suicidal thoughts, that is. Because as we live our lives alongside others without even knowing it we can effect people's lives in deep and profound ways. And no matter how bad you've got it our lives are not a static written-in-stone thing. Just as we are constantly changing so do the circumstances of our lives, and if you just have faith and push through you'll find yourself at a better place.

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BlueWolf007 In reply to No15-Nathax [2014-07-31 08:38:57 +0000 UTC]

"Oh brother, you honestly expect me to feel sorry for pain that you felt AS AN INFANT!?!"

Because infants are scientifically proven to feel less pain than an underdeveloped lump of cells whose nervous system hasn't even BEGUN much less finished developing. lol You are so hypocritical it hurts.

"Just as we are constantly changing so do the circumstances of our lives"

Yes, including the ones were things turn for the worse.Β 

Like learning (after spending ALL of your life wishing to have a family of your own) that if you carried through with your pregnancy it would mean certain death for you, or even horrible health effects and outcomes.
Or maybe that the already scarring attack and rape that recently unfolded in your life resulted in a mind-fuck of a pregnancy which complete ass-hat strangers are trying to force you to carry to term despite how much distress it causes you, how suicidal it makes you feel to carry the seed of your attacker.

We are humans, not broodmares. We have a right to our bodies and who and what we allow to use them... fetuses, zygotes and lil blobs of cells aren't above that and are no more special than anyone or anything else out there.

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-22 06:38:13 +0000 UTC]

Not expecting anything, just pointed what happened to me out since you asked "If your mother had been unfit..." Well she was, I told why. And no I don't wish to be dead, if I did I would be by now don't you think? All I'm saying my mother should not have had me, she really shouldn't have if she had the spine to realize making me (or any of my siblings before me, they have all been taken away too) was the worst thing she ever could have done. I'm not going to follow on her footsteps on that regard.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-22 07:23:33 +0000 UTC]

How should I know if you'e not deperessed? You were talking pretty emo in that last messege.
And I'm sure all your children will thank you for authorizing their murders and stealing away whatever they could've made of themselves or any happiness they might've found in this life.
It's like what I said earlier about how how lives affect the lives of those around us, and by playing god you crush any chance that maybe they would've done something with their lives that could've been a blessing to others including you.
Maybe your children would've been stronger than you- prehaps they would not have let the circumstances of their birth dictate their value.

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-22 08:54:43 +0000 UTC]

Now now, calm yo tits and don't go thinking I go getting abortions left and right. Just once, and I hope never again, wasn't the most comfortable thing I've physically felt. On the other hand, I won't be fucking with psychos who are forbidden from seeing their already existing children, so my accident shouldn't happen again.

And yeah, I hope to gods if I ever have children they will be stronger than their mother.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-23 01:38:44 +0000 UTC]

If you don't mind me asking, how far along were you?

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-23 11:59:29 +0000 UTC]

Don't mind at all. Week 10.

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No15-Nathax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-23 17:10:01 +0000 UTC]

Well, whether you consider it a loss or not, I am sorry for it.

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Morthax In reply to Morthax [2013-04-21 18:13:55 +0000 UTC]

Dafuck double post.

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Morthax In reply to No15-Nathax [2013-04-21 18:12:48 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't call that lump human. Sure it had some legs and arms growing and all but still, wasn't a baby to me.

And my biological mother WAS unfit to care for me. I was born with alcohol in my system and I spent the first 6 months of my life in pain because of that. And I was taken away when I was 8 months old because clearly my alcoholic parents weren't fit to care for me. I have no love for people that cruel, and quite frankly if my mother had any sense at all, she would have aborted me rather than give birth and watch me suffer.

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littleladylucifer In reply to ??? [2013-03-31 05:21:58 +0000 UTC]

I agree with this stamp!

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to ??? [2013-03-06 02:42:14 +0000 UTC]

Life starts at conception! Day 1, fertilization, all human chromosomes are present. Unique human life begins. Day 22, heart begins to beat with the child's own blood, different type than mother's blood. Week 3, child's backbone spinal column and nervous system are forming,the liver, kidneys, and intestines begin to take shape. Week 4, by the end of week 4 the child is 10,000 times larger than it was as a fertilized egg. Week 5, eyes, legs and hands begin to develop. Week 6, brain waves are detectable, fingernails are forming. Week 7, eyelids and toes forms, nose distinct, the baby is kicking and swimming. Week 8, every organ is in place, bones replace cartilidge, fingerprints begin to form, baby can hear. Week 10, baby can turn head and frown. Week 12, the baby has all the parts necessary to feel pain. Week 20, earliest stage at which partial birth abortions are performed (the baby can feel the pain) and can recognize his/her mother's voice. I do not have any doubt that the baby is a human life at the moment it is conceived.
Facts from www.nrlc.org
Murder is the unlawful taking of a human life. Tell me now that abortion is not murder.

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BlueWolf007 In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2014-07-31 08:43:34 +0000 UTC]

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to BlueWolf007 [2014-09-11 02:27:55 +0000 UTC]

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BlueWolf007 In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2014-09-30 03:52:05 +0000 UTC]

LOL! I honestly can't risk following random links to possible viruses, but I must admit. No matter the poor or excellent argument you might have had your icon makes it perfect! I'm dying just looking at it.

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to BlueWolf007 [2014-10-01 04:00:13 +0000 UTC]

Um okay? Says the girl with a blue bunny as their icon... I was prepared to have a civil conversation about this but obviously you aren't, so I'll just leave it be.

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BlueWolf007 In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2014-10-02 17:31:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow, that's sad. I was actually praising the almost too perfect of an icon for responses. And as much as its love to have an exchange of opinions with you, I can see you're one to jump the gun and take insult from a simple comment. I don't like conversing with people with child like mentalities and will simply leave my previously humorous comment and this: this bad ass blue bun bun was a gift from a fellow deviant. I don't have to take screen shots like some others to make my icon.

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to BlueWolf007 [2014-10-03 19:51:22 +0000 UTC]

Oh wait, I'm actually sorry. I took your comment as sarcasm. Sorry!

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BlueWolf007 In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2014-10-09 17:08:47 +0000 UTC]

Eh, we are all human. But truly, look back on any comment you made to anybody ever- then take a look at the expression your icon had... pure gold.

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to BlueWolf007 [2014-10-24 22:07:12 +0000 UTC]

Haha I never really thought of that.

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BlueWolf007 In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2014-10-24 22:42:38 +0000 UTC]

It is infinitely amusing.

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Morthax In reply to Mango-Coffee21 [2013-03-06 05:57:56 +0000 UTC]

And here I am still telling you abortion is not murder. Still a good try on "look at all this info and start feeling emotional". After seeing the fetus I was carrying a little text doesn't provoke too much emotion, at least not in me personally. I mean...yeah, I know the little thing had like these weird alien eyes and kinda frog-like hands and feet. I looked at it. You ever seen a real fetus, up close like that? Just out of curiosity.

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Mango-Coffee21 In reply to Morthax [2013-03-06 14:17:50 +0000 UTC]

I'm not asking you to get emotional. Those are facts of the developement of a human life in the womb. An alive and breathing baby. I have seen a fetus, but not up close (I have never been pregnant). But still I have seen one and I cannot deny that it is a human being. If it was "just a bunch of cells" as you put it, than it would not be breathing, it would not have human features, and it would not be able to hear.

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spirit97 In reply to ??? [2013-03-05 00:05:22 +0000 UTC]

im one to believe that babies are human as soon as they are conceived, and i believe abortion is wrong, i do think it is killing, and if not that, its not giving someen a chance to live, i think adoption is a big optin if someone doesnt want a baby...or, just dont get pregnant in the first place, i do think people should have a choice of abortion, and i would never get rid of that, because i think mre people would get harmed aborting the ld fashioned way..i dont want people to feel pressured about abortion..and i sjut wish people wuldnt do it. everyone deserves a chance to live.

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Morthax In reply to spirit97 [2013-03-05 22:34:14 +0000 UTC]

I see your point. However, stating that "just don't get pregnant in the fist place" seems lightly foolish. Let's face it, people are horny bastards and will have sex. I'm not denying that some people are just plain stupid and getting pregnant because they didn't bother with a simple thing like a condom. And that is plain stupid. However accidents do happen, condoms break, ladies forget to take their pill and / or don't take them as religiously as they should.

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spirit97 In reply to Morthax [2013-03-06 03:28:53 +0000 UTC]

because those peple made one small mistake, they have t kill a baby? you said it isnt murder, yeah, its not murder, because it says yes, you can kill babies. but its killing.i think its wrng, that peple can live with killing, nthing less then...a baby, an unborn child..something so small, and innocent. i could never live with the weight, knowing i killed another living thing. well i can barely kill a fly, but still!

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Morthax In reply to spirit97 [2013-03-06 05:52:22 +0000 UTC]

Then let's force the woman to go through the hell of pregnancy and childbirth against her own will if she doesn't want the child? Make her a baby factory and then just take the baby away? No, that's not right either. ultimately it's the woman's choice what she does with her body. If she wants to give birth and then give the baby away, fine. But that should only happen on her free will. And if she fells she can't go through with it, she should be free to abort the pregnancy.

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spirit97 In reply to Morthax [2013-03-07 00:23:05 +0000 UTC]

so..a girl wouldnt want to give her baby away, she wuld rather kill it? i dont see how that is right at all.

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CallyKitten In reply to ??? [2013-02-15 23:59:35 +0000 UTC]

/claps
Yes. Yes. Thank you.

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Lifeisstillsweet In reply to ??? [2012-12-18 06:27:00 +0000 UTC]

I agree. Woman should be allowed to do whatever they wish to do with the baby. If they didn't want it (especially if it was from rape) Than I say it's totally okay to get an abortion!

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The-Happy-Spaceman In reply to ??? [2012-11-15 23:17:13 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU.

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PuzzledHeartBox In reply to ??? [2012-10-09 09:22:31 +0000 UTC]

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shadowservant352 In reply to ??? [2012-07-21 05:08:01 +0000 UTC]

THIS!

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Star-Bell-22 In reply to ??? [2012-07-07 19:09:59 +0000 UTC]

Honestly I don't have much opinion on this issue. It depends how far along the baby is, and if the mother was willing. If the woman was raped, I say it's only fair she be allowed to abort it. She wouldn't have wanted to go through the pregnancy in the first place, and there would be a piece of her assailant in the child. Even if she raised the child, imagine how painful it would be to know that the child she loves would be born of something so awful. Plus, the body hasn't even formed yet very early into the pregnancy, there's no real biological structure yet. I'm just stating my own opinion. If somebody else feels differently, that's your right, and I respect that.

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XxNarutoIsMineXx In reply to ??? [2012-07-01 17:21:49 +0000 UTC]

i love how the creator asked to NOT get into these moral conflicts but yet she does anyway, i'm not trying to be mean i'm just saying its funny. Also i'm still questioning my belief in abortion or not, so please don't fight with me

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TheYuriReviewer In reply to ??? [2012-06-15 03:37:14 +0000 UTC]

if it raises a shitstorm ill be wiith you all the way. fuck pro life

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Ask-War In reply to TheYuriReviewer [2012-11-15 07:37:27 +0000 UTC]

Pro life doesn't exist. Show me a true pro lifer, and I will show you a fictional character.

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Auroraz365 In reply to Ask-War [2013-01-23 00:18:32 +0000 UTC]

I'm a true pro-lifer. I would rather die then have a child's death be my desicion.

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TheYuriReviewer In reply to Ask-War [2012-11-15 19:58:31 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.... killing doctors is not prolife

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Ask-War In reply to TheYuriReviewer [2012-11-16 00:41:03 +0000 UTC]

Exactly.

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