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Published: 2010-06-29 14:11:58 +0000 UTC; Views: 7314; Favourites: 196; Downloads: 26
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I know this might raise a shitstorm, but I still decided to do it, to speak up my mind. Anyway, once again if you wish to argue this matter, please do so in a civil way. If I hide comments, that's simply because whoever wrote them refused to act decently.
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Negative? You're just pretending that the world simply MUST be better if abortions were stopped. You can't know if the next Ted Bundy or Dahmer has been aborted, saving countless lives.
If you're not going to approach the possibilities realistically, someone has to shine a light through your rose-tinted contacts.
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Either way, there should not be the option to take someone's life.
And I am now ignoring you because you are worthless to my time, you think you are something that you're not. Perhaps you could have been another Ted Bundy or Dahmer? now shut the hell up and get a life, because if you have nothing better to do than to harass and while like a child, especially when not spoken to, then you're a waste and an internet troll. so again, go get a life.
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Harass? Speak when not spoken to?
Did someone specifically invite you to post on this stamp?
I'm just replying to your simplistic attempt to use someone else's emotions instead of your own reason to advance your agenda.
Life starts at this end of the birth canal. Even the Bible makes that clear. You're not alive until your first breath. That's assuming you believe that scripture has any value, of course.
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I did not speak to you, and the publisher allowed said discussions, and I kept it as fair as possible, however, I Will block your ass because I cannot stand you and your wasted attempt of harassment. I'll let you be stupid with someone else..
Have a great day...
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Please try to keep your way of arguing civil. Calling other people trolls because they disagree with your opinion and then blocking them makes you childish. So please try to behave.
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again, stop making me laugh.. its too amusing..
I will, however, do useless replies now and use the anger icon to give bad kudos to the deviation as my own retribution. so cease and desist.
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No, aborting a bunch of cells is not killing a life. Those cells may be living, sure, but not alive. They don't feel or know that they have a potential to become a human being. They don't know they are alive, or going to die.
And about euthanasia. Well if a person does not want to live, because for an example a disease that would kill them painfully and slowly... Well I don't see why we couldn't help them on the way. And yes, by helping them to die if that is what they wish. I don't see why not.
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As for the abortion, its still not just cells, and sometimes a child will start to form.
It is still stopping a life in the making. If you weren't ready to deal with the chances, get a condom and birth control.
As for the Euthanasia, of course that is a good thing if someone cannot stand to live...
But I am talking about how there's a new thing they're thinking of doing, so when someone is old past working ability, they just put them down, or perhaps retarded people that are in-able to work... Its a freaky thing...
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Smoking and eating shit food also kills cells. And I don't get shit for that.
Just saying. I have my opinion, and you aren't going to change it.
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Surely it will develop into a human being at SOME POINT, but it's not anywhere near human form when abortions take place. Sure they may have something representing legs like mine had, but that doesn't make it a human. And for side note, condoms can unfortunately break.
Well,my point about euthanasia still kinda stands. If death is their wish for whatever reason and they for whatever reasons cannot..pull the trigger themselves, sure, help them.
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Well interesting conversation, I'll see ya later, gotta grab some shut eye..
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As for it not being human, it still is, and it still have life once it is concieved... How do you know when you were first living? can you tell me you remember coming alive as you exited the womb? no.
As for condoms breaking? If you cannot risk that, then don't have sex.
You should deal with the consequences of your actions and not cower at such, its pitiful and it is the reason the nation is so horrible nowadays, over all.. just bad..
And as for the euthanasia, its not saying they have the choice, I am saying that it is a choice they cannot make.
If they're too old and/or retarded and cannot work, they die whether they want to or not... at least, as far as I heard this new proposed idea is, going around along with the other bad bills and crap.. O_o
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Would you have known you are alive or felt pain if you were aborted? No, you wouldn't have. In legal limits when abortion is possible, you would not have known anything. So how is a murder to "kill" something that doesn't breathe, has no heartbeat, no conciousness, no ability to survive on its own.
And again, accidents happen. I myself, got unlucky and condom broke. If I had realized that at the scene, I would have taken morning after pill. But unfortunately I didn't know about this unfortunate event until when I realized I were pregnant. So what can I say? Shit luck indeed.
And again,like I said, if they want to die, sure. Help them. But if they don't, killing them isn't right.
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Either way, you are being cold to the thought that just because science and tv says something, does NOT mean it is true.
You can not prove from any experience that death to a fetus is without pain or without heartbeat... And in reality, from what "science" says if you wish to back it up with that, the heartbeat starts 22 days after conception... So you still stop a heart and kill something that has begun to live..
And again, you really need to be able to take responsibility for your action, if you are not ready for a child, don't make one! It's common sense, if anyone would have the time to use it...
And as for the euthanasia, well.. at least I got that point through.. (and yeah, I am keeping my eye out for hearing anything else on the matter, in news or anything I might find..)
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If it doesn't have a brain it can feel pain.
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By the time a pregnancy test reads positive, the brain is already forming, and just because it cant feel it does NOT mean you're killing a life.. again, 22 days after conception, there is a heartbeat... that means it is now "scientifically" alive.
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Wrong. The brain and the heart do not start functioning until the 6th week.
Try again.
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Wrong, studies say the embyonic heartbeat starts after 22 days, and the body is ever growing, even from those stages.. because it's a LIVING THING! >_>
"try again." xD
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And what studies would these be?
Any legitimate biological resource will say 6 weeks.
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or perhaps you are saying it because you are wrong?
research the embryonic heartbeat, genius.
Furthermore, I will be leaving for ohio in about 3 hours, so if I get any replies, when I get there, I might have to unleash comment-hell and make you with you never got notifications again.. >=]
or to summarize: I'm going on family vacation, leave me alone.. thx.. xD
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If you can't provide a valid source for your claim then you have nothing to back it up which means you are lying.
I've done my research, obviously you haven't.
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[link] oh? I'm lying?
Just because I didnt already give a link does not mean I'm lying..
And further more, when I am back from ohio, if I have as much as a single message from you, I'll show you what a valid source of aggravation is.
And of course I've done my research, I did before I even replied. I backed myself up first.
Now go make something useful of yourself as you are currently wasting your life arguing with me, go be useful for once this year.. xD
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Well, it seems we're both correct in a manner of speaking. Gestational timeline is 5-6 weeks, embryonic timeline is 22-35 days.
As for your childish little threat, go right ahead. You're actually providing some amusement during my downtime at work. You're waisting more of your life than I am.
And finally, for doing something useful with my life: my college degree and full-time job disagree with you.
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Lol, as for the correct in a manner of speaking, nice to see we've met a medium of understanding.
For the childish threat, it's a "stfu" threat, and I did it to amuse myself actually, but 2 people for one amusement is good..
As for college, I just got notice that I am eligible for a Bright Futures scholarship, so the only different here is age. but nice try, lol.
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You told me to do something useful with my life, just stating I already did.
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ah, nice.
Well atleast the useless replies are over.. so.. whats up? xD
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Sitting on my ass, trying to relax after a fun-filled 10 hour day at work, you?
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riding across the country.. just got to our hotel.. hope work wasn't too stressful..
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can't feel pain*
goddamn keyboard >:C
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Fuck you fucking fucknugget you fucked up!
I'm so sorry. I felt like saying fuck.
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So I'm being cold because I know I didn't actually kill anything? You think there haven't been any studies on the matter, does fetus feel pain or anything? However, it's still a parasite, and that's that. And again, I think you are trying not to understand the concept of "accidents happen". Shit, if me and my partner used a condom and it broke, how was I being irresponsible? It would be a different thing if we fucked without any protection, sure I would deserve to be smacked up the head for being stupid. It was just damn bad luck, nothing more. And I had enough brain not to give birth because the situation was terrible.
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I'm saying one final message and I will refuse to continue because you are the kind of person who will not listen to any other arguement.
I've took the time to listen to both sides before I chose what I believed..
Either way, this is very simple math for you..
Sex is for making children, anything else and you still might get children because THAT IS WHAT SEX IS FOR! (duh.)
And if the situation was terrible or you're not ready for a child, don't go "baby makin" and don't have sex.. That is ignorant stupidity to do the very thing to have a kid and be like "oops, that wasn't supposed to happen ._."
And I'm sure there HAS been studies, and they say the heartbeat starts at 22 days after conception.. And another little thing to add, when a woman gets an abortion, it mentally harms her as her mind and body is still in the mothering mode, it is even harmful to her.. that's a cruel outcome there as well.
And further more, the only reason I'd expect you to make this stamp is because you feel guilty for something like pregnancy (whether you will admit it or not), and you're using this as a way to find comfort or relief.. to think you're correct for what you are doing...
After this message I shall be sure to disable incoming messages, because I will not continue to fight over this, but next time, listen to both sides of the story because you're never always right.
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Of course sex is for making babies. that's basic biology, sex makes babies. And sex is also for fun, and I happen to enjoy it like a normal human being. So I don't see any reason why I shouldn't have sex. It's damn fun. 
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I know a few people who haven't thrown the "abortion is murder" out the window, and thats all the people I know that ever got pregnant.
You're not as smart as you think you are, go figure..
And also, sex is fun to people would reproduce, it's practically elementary knowledge nowadays.. (scary enough)
And quite often the female body still stays in a mothering mode and it often does harm the mind as well, because the whole body (including the mind) has to prepare for the baby...
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Haha, I see you're getting slightly irritated here. I wonder why...
Also, I still think quite a few people would change their mind about abortion if they were in the same situation as I was. Because having a baby at those circumstances would have been irresponsible and stupid. But you can think whatever you want, I know I can't make you change your mind. I just enjoy arguing.
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why am I irritated? cause you don't stfu.. xD
and I'm not telling you you're going straight to hell, even if I were, I could not prove you are or are not, I do not know you.
As for being a teenage mom, if you were not ready for the baby, grow up and THEN have sex when you CAN be a mom..
And just because you know a few people you know that would or might change their minds on abortion, does not means everyone would.
Your argument has no foundation and you don't care that you started a life and killed it... =/
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Nothing is keeping you from walking away with your tail between your legs, you know.
Also lol, are you one of those who think sex is ONLY for making babies? You don't have sex, ever? For the joy of it? And how the hell you cannot understand that accidents happen. Condoms can break, so don't have sex? Don't go to the woods, because a bear might attack you? Le gasp, don't leave the house because ANYTHING can happen!
And no, I don't actually care about aborting a cluster of cells that weren't a living human being.
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Lol, first of all, I'm winning the conversation, second, I'd absoutely love to prove you wrong just because you already wasted some of my life as it is..
I know sex is enjoyable, but I'm making a point that you must be ready to take consequence for your actions, I was and am, and that's my choice whether to have sex or not.
And as ignorant you might be, the "cluster of cells" is, in fact, living.
It has it's own embryonic heartbeat at 22 days, meaning it has something living in it.
It is a growing human being, whether you believe it or not.
I am tired of fighting you when you have NO FOUNDATION in your arguement, you merely say "that weren't a living being" when you have nothing to base it on, but mere choice of self-securement.
I am leaving for ohio in 3 hours, and if I get any more replies, I'll show you some serious crap, so please stfu so I can enjoy family vacation, and if you're still bitchin, I'll fix that after ._.
Grow some balls and realize that you're not perfect.
As for your mockery.. lol, you amuse me.. congradulations, it takes something of actual humor to amuse me.
I'll see you in a week (or never again)... your choice. (so stfu, haha)
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I'm sure you'd love to prove me wrong, but unfortunately you can't. because either you know that your "facts" are complete bullshit, or you simply are idiot enough not to do some research on the matter and believe what they said to you in sunday school. In any case, your argument remains invalid until you show me some studies which you cannot do. Good day sir, you lose.
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[link] suck that, idiot.
and sunday school? omfg, I just lmaoed.. you're full of such bs, I cant believe it.. haha!
Good day, ma'am, you lose, you suck, and you're a waste of my time and life.
Go be stupid somewhere else please, before we all die of aggravation. lol.
Ah, and just for the bad kudos, an Anger emote to add to the deviation.. xD
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That's your source? You really are as stupid as I thought. You still have no reliable facts. I rest my case.
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Lol, I knew you'd reply to that.
I needed to say something cause I almost forgot to mention..
I'm shutting down my laptop now, about to prepare for ohio..
so yeah.. stop being a bitch, lmao.
mk, I said what i forgot, bye..
(and yeah, why don't you actually do some research? you're thinking of when the heart is created, no the embryonic heartbeat, idiot. damn, idk how any guy could stand to have sex with you.. lmao. xD)
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Abortion is like marajuana is like cigarettes, is like a tattoo is like what soda you drink. They're all Life choices, some are a bit more than others, but some choose one side over the other. Some just choose to ruin their lives or what they think make it better.
>_>
Anyone who goes into a pissfit over it don't have tolerance of people who don't do what They do in life.
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I mostly agree that people should have the choice to do what they want with their bodies but I cannot condone the type of women who use abortion like it's a contraceptive.
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Well accidents happen, obviously. But ha, bitches why don't even try not to get pregnant and go to the clinics all the time because they don't know what a fucking condom is...they deserve a slap up the head and some sex ed.
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Yeah, well the baby is not their body, the baby has it's own body and it's own life. I believe you shouldn't have the ability to say "I'd rather have them killed"... Would you say that to a 3 year old daughter? I hope not... Again, just speaking my mind and giving people something to think about.. =o
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An embryo/foetus is not a three year old child.
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Wow, you're quite ignorant.
I am making reference to how you would not make reference to a 3 year old child,
yet you still think it ok to end a life that has started, even if you think it is too young to matter...
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