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Published: 2015-03-25 22:05:07 +0000 UTC; Views: 6282; Favourites: 128; Downloads: 6
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Gernerally it is supposed to mean any sort of tumblr leftist as it did in the beginning, but with the time I realized you can get called a "SJW" for any reason.- Do you support people having some human decency? You are a SJW.
- Are you LBGTQA+? And/or mentally ill? You are a SJW (no kidding I got labeled one solely for this reason).
- Are you against right-wing ideologies in any way, form or shape? You are a SJW.
- Are you pro-choice? You are a SJW.
- Do you find egalitarianism flawed and pointless despite not being yourself a right-winger? You are a SJW.
- Do you support animal welfare? You are a SJW.
- Do you support feminism? You are a SJW.
- Are you egalitarian but not right-wing? Don't care, you are a SJW anyway.
Bonus if people tell you "go back to tumblr" and such.
This word has probably as much meaning as "commie" and "liberal" nowadays.
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Probably most people who get called "SJWs" don't call themselves that unironically because of how ridiculous this word is and the people who use it as an insult. And why would someone want to take seriously liberals who know fuck all what they are talking about?
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Funny, aren't you a liberal who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about ? SJW's are hardcore Authoritarian Leftists, aka Liberals, aka you.
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I now call them exactly what they are: libitards.
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i got called an sjw for supporting equal rights XD logic- amirite?
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SJW isn't a word its an abbreviation
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Indeed. It just seems like another way to snark-shame people for actually giving a shit about other people, or the world we live in. Like that's a bad thing. It's so ridiculous...
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I once got called a sjw for supporting gay marriage
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Do you follow the ToS? SJW.
Do you follow the Etiquette policy? SJW.
Admin deletes your journal? They're SJWs.
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This might be relevant considering the internet drama going lately between anti-feminists like this certain zionist-fascist nutjob getting banned.
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Oh dude, it's VERY relevant.
So many anti-feminists/anti-Socialists/anti-Communists and the like getting banhammered. There's one anti-Communist who threatened my life saying that he ought to "crack my skull with a crowbar" then I had him reported and banned. Then there's a self-described Zionist and Fascist who is pro-Israel (and he had nearly naked underage Anime girls which makes him a complete creep) and he got banhammered too. Then there's a bunch more who complain about dA being taken over by "SJWs" but fail to realize that deviantART reserves the right to kick anyone off or delete anything they deem is unacceptable and then some of them decide to ragequit and deactivate dA.
It's so funny how middle to upper class suburban white kids feel entitle to call people "idiots" or "irrational" or whatnot and fetishize "logic" so hard that they forget how life works. Especially when deviantART is a site of mostly people under 25. Right-wingers (and liberals too) tell me to "get a job" well guess what? I work for a living at a pizza joint and have a college degree.
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I am wondering why self-described anti communists are in general so irrational (not that I am communist, just a tad leftist but I have no problem with them at all); either way them sending death threats would not surprise me. Maybe they do have a large tradition on instigating, promoting and starting violence and destruction towards anything they would consider "commie", "thug", "degenerate", "cultural marxist" or that threatens the status quo? Then again many of them support beasts like Bush, Pinochet, Thatcher and Churchill so this should partly answer my own question.
And yes I dealt with this Conquerors guy a few times and I am happy to see him banned, nobody will miss him. And "SJWs" in the staff? Well I had no idea the staff not appealing to them makes them a "SJW". Haha, they and the guy's friends can go suck a stick for all I care.
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Yeah, it really seems these people try to push all of their anger, defend themselves, and dismiss a reasonable argument with "sjw" like...? If I'm trying to tell someone why someone else doesn't deserve to be treated like shit cause of their identity/appearance/anything and I get dismissed with "sjw" that's often the sign of someone who knows how shitty their behaviour is and are unable to defend it, or form a proper argument. You got it spot on.
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The word "SJW" has become one big red flag to spot people who hate marginalized groups since a long.
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I can't help but be reminded of those anime-obsessed people ("weeaboos," I think they're called) who claim that the term "weeaboo" has no meaning when I look at this stamp. Just because you can't handle criticism of a group you may or may not affiliate yourself with doesn't mean the criticism is invalid.
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More than 90% of this so called "criticism" is anything but. So why would I take it as valid?
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"More than 90%" of criticism against "SJWs" is invalid? Are you seriously claiming that? Any political ideology or idea can be criticised with validity. Any argument or criticism or opinion is valid ("valid" not necessarily sensible, sound, rational, or intelligent) as long as there's reasoning behind the argument/criticism/opinion/whatever and, in the course of that reasoning, no fallacies have been committed. Are you seriously claiming that "More than 90%" of criticism against "SJWs" is either done for no reason whatsoever or is conducted through fallacies?
I seriously can't believe that you are claiming that "More than 90%" of criticism against your beliefs are invalid.
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No, not every opinion or criticism can be valid, because it does not work that way. If your "critique" is not based things that are irrelevant or rather false, it is not valid, let alone when such supports treating marginalized groups as subhuman.
Yes, there are good reasons to criticize many circles like the western SJ side and I agree with that, but more than 90% of these "critiques" are shit everyone has heard so many times and that are considered wrong in this context (don't fight hate with hate, two wrongs do not make a right, MLK would be ashamed of you, blah blah blah), a lot of them being just wrong and sometimes displaying bigotry. Ironically when one even mentions that the "SJW" word has no coherent usage anymore (because it does not) these people happen to get defensive.
A lot of the people who get called "SJWs" actually can take criticism actually and use it as a way to improve. Something the opposite side that calls them names like that do not do so often.
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“No, not every opinion or criticism can be valid, because it does not work that way. If your "critique" is not based things that are irrelevant or rather false, it is not valid, let alone when such supports treating marginalized groups as subhuman.”
So, being what you consider to be racist/sexist/whatever-ist makes an opinion or statement invalid? Not supporting your ideas on what constitutes as equality makes an opinion or statement invalid? Are you being serious right now? If that’s what you’re saying, than it’s very clear that you’re only hiding behind the label of “invalid” to ignore any opinion or statement that conflicts with yours. Believing that any opinion or any statement that conflicts with yours is automatically “invalid” also makes you a bigot.
“Yes, there are good reasons to criticize many circles like the western SJ side and I agree with that, but more than 90% of these "critiques" are shit everyone has heard so many times and that are considered wrong in this context (don't fight hate with hate, two wrongs do not make a right, MLK would be ashamed of you, blah blah blah), a lot of them being just wrong and sometimes displaying bigotry. Ironically when one even mentions that the "SJW" word has no coherent usage anymore (because it does not) these people happen to get defensive.”
Maybe people are using the same criticism over and over again because the criticism is valid. You’re essentially saying here that since everyone says it it’s wrong. Do you wonder why everyone says it, or do you assume that you know better than all those people who’ve ever said it? Have you ever considered that?
“A lot of the people who get called "SJWs" actually can take criticism actually and use it as a way to improve. Something the opposite side that calls them names like that do not do so often.”
Are you a “SJW”? And are you seriously claiming that you can “take” criticism and “use it as a way to improve”? When you’re saying that “more than 90%” of it is “invalid”?
I’ve seen far more “SJWs” call people names (usually sometime like “cishet” or “privileged white male,” both of which are derogatory) and get defensive and start attacking people when they’re criticised than the other way around.
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It is not only what I would consider racist or sexist by my own standards, but by what IS racist or sexist by nature (especially if it is against women and PoC).
Not everyone has to agree with me or support my opinions and I am quite fine with that (and it indeed helped me change for better) but there are both good reasons and bad reasons for that disagreement and I am willing to call the latter for what these are: invalid.
People can repeat or agree something is true because 1+1=3 and this does not make the statement true or valid. This is where I am coming from.
And boo fucking hoo, someone called you a "cishet" or a "white privileged male". These names as derogative as they can sound to someone are not actually slurs that have a whole history of oppression.
You people act like we are incapable to take criticism but as soom as I say something as like this stamp says you seem like you cannot think for a second what I am trying to say and instead talk about how bad "sjws" are and whatnot.
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"It is not only what I would consider racist or sexist by my own standards, but by what IS racist or sexist by nature (especially if it is against women and PoC)."
Congratulations, you either completely missed or conveniently overlooked my point.
"Not everyone has to agree with me or support my opinions and I am quite fine with that (and it indeed helped me change for better) but there are both good reasons and bad reasons for that disagreement and I am willing to call the latter for what these are: invalid."
Bad reasons for disagreeing don’t make an argument invalid. They can make an argument weak or unsound, but not invalid. Because opinions are so subjective and can’t be proven, there’s no such thing as an “invalid” opinion, just like there’s no such thing as a “better” or “worse” opinion.
"People can repeat or agree something is true because 1+1=3 and this does not make the statement true or valid. This is where I am coming from."
I understand where you’re coming from, and I’m quite aware of the consensus reality but a math fallacy is not comparable to a political belief. It’s apples and oranges. Hypothetically, if you express your views to 1000 people, and 900 (or 90%) of them think you’re an extremist and 100 (or 10%) believe you aren’t, instead of telling the 900 people who disagree with you “everyone says that… It’s overused… You’re wrong… etc.” why don’t you wonder why 900 people come to the conclusion that you’re an extremist. Ignoring what people are saying just because you think too many people are saying it, I mean, do you really not see the error in that?
"And boo fucking hoo, someone called you a "cishet" or a "white privileged male". These names as derogative as they can sound to someone are not actually slurs that have a whole history of oppression."
What are you talking about they aren’t slurs?! You’re calling someone a derogatory term based on something that they were born as and that they have no control over. The only thing a slur has to be is a disparaging remark, “cishet” is the same as calling someone a “homo” or a “fag” or a “tranny”, except it’s directed at a different group.
It’s strange, don’t you think, about how too many “SJWs” talk about “equality” and about how it’s not okay to judge someone solely based on their sexuality or gender, but then turn around and judge all the heterosexual cis-gender people?
"You people act like we are incapable to take criticism but as soom as I say something as like this stamp says you seem like you cannot think for a second what I am trying to say and instead talk about how bad "sjws" are and whatnot."
“You people”? I’m sorry, who is “you people”?
Anyway, yes, from what I’ve seen, most “SJWs” are incapable of taking criticism. Instead, most of them throw temper tantrums and call whoever disagrees with them hateful slurs. What you’re saying with this stamp, I believe, is that the term “Social Justice Warrior” has no meaning because either A) people misuse it or B) because too many people use it. I’m saying that that’s untrue, because you can’t just void a word just because you don’t like being critcised.
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What point exactly?? There are things that reinforce oppression by nature. It is not just a matter whether one sees them as "racist" or "sexist". I do not see what exactly are you trying to tell me by saying they are just opinions.
It depends to what population you are talking about, because there are lots (in the order of many thousands) of them in USA who are pro-life or anti-LGBT and would label you a communist without a solid basis other than their own bigotry and what they were taught, to give you an example. Should I consider if they say I am wrong in that matter? Of course not because it is pure ad-nauseam.
“cishet” is the same as calling someone a “homo” or a “fag” or a “tranny”, except it’s directed at a different group
No, it is not the same and forget it will ever happen in the same level anytime soon. People get harassed, end jobless or homeless, traumatized and even beaten or killed over transphobia, misogyny, white supremacy, heterosexism and anything else that has an institutional power appealing to the status quo, and slurs like "faggot" or "tranny" reinforce that. The most thing saying "cishet" does is to hurt some feelings.
Sorry pal, you obviously are too detached from reality to see the bigger picture to the point that you have to get defensive about a stupid word that anyone can pull out of their ass to use as an insult. Opinions can be invalid whether you like it or not.
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What point exactly?? There are things that reinforce oppression by nature. It is not just a matter whether one sees them as "racist" or "sexist". I do not see what exactly are you trying to tell me by saying they are just opinions.
The point that something not conforming to YOUR ideas as to what constitutes as equality (or, in this case, not racist, not sexist, etc.) doesn’t automatically make it invalid.
Yes, you should. In fact, by saying that they’re just doing it because they’re bigots you’re doing one of two things: 1) You’re considering why they’re saying you’re wrong and arriving at that conclusion OR 2) You’re completely ignoring them without a solid basis other than your own bigotry.
Maybe I should try the 1000 people analogy from a different perspective. Female supremacists. They’re basically the same thing as white supremacists except for the fact that the group they advocate for is females not white people. “More than 90%” of people think they’re irrational, insane extremists. Why? Well, because they advocate killing men, mostly. Because “more than 90%” of people think this doesn’t automatically make it ad nauseam, it means “more than 90%” of people have reached the same conclusion about this group and oppose this group for the same reasons. On the opposite side of the sexism scale, this could also apply to groups like the Taliban. Does that make more sense?
That’s not how slurs work. Verbally attacking a cis-gender and/or heterosexual person because of their gender and/or sexuality is literally the exact same thing as verbally attacking a transgender and/or homosexual person because of their gender and/or sexuality, except for the fact that the latter happens considerably more often. The “institutionalised discrimination” excuse for verbally attacking someone is bullshit; it’s nothing more than a weak excuse for you and people like you to be both intolerant and hateful towards certain demographics just for their gender and sexuality.
And it’s that type of thinking – the hatred and intolerance towards historically (for lack of a better word) “dominant” demographics, the hypocrisy, the bigotry, and the complete invalidation (if not flat out denial of) certain forms of hatred (especially misandry and non-traditional racism) – which is why you and others are labelled as “SJWs,” not just because you have leftist views.
Firstly, don’t call me pal.
Secondly, I’m not being defensive. If anyone here is being defensive, it’s you and your claims that “more than 90%” of the people who disagree with your opinions do so out of pure bigotry.
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How they can even get pissed because I say there are people using it as an insult with no weight is totally beyond me. They might as well get defensive over the fact that 1+1=2.
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Or get defensive that a negative times a negative equals a positive. lol
"DON'T FIGHT h8 WITH h8!!!"
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I know right? *sigh*
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lol I don't like sjw that take it too far.
but sjw that are like you describe are just decent human beings.
I stood up for a trans friend of mine and I got told to go back to tumblr xD
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the only true "anti-sjw" is against people having human rights lmao
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If someone is anti-SJW, it doesn't necessarily mean they hate equality or social justice in general. It just means we recognize zealotry when we see it.
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youre an anti sjw but you dont seem to care about equality
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The thing with SJWism is that since you're cornered in the far-left side of the spectrum, that leaves more room for anti-sjws to be more ideologically diverse. I noticed that a lot of the people who rag on SJWs tend to be liberal/pro-equality in nearly every way. Probably because they don't want you making the Left look bad.
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It's short for "Social Justice Warrior".
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I have and probably always will see the term SJW defined as taking certain views to the extreme. (Tbh, I am not at all impressed by what I've seen of them on tumblr.) But when a word gets popular enough, especially a word describing something unpleasant, people will abuse it. So yeah.
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me: spills water on desk
me: what..... this is some sjw bullshit......
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"- Do you support people having some human decency? You are a SJW."
What? No one says that.
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The fact it's this personn have missed something: nobody have claimed "do you support some human decency, you are a SJW", he/she could tell that to the actual SJWs who's treat people like shit, and besides, SJWs are not decent human beings, not with all they doing...
it's like said "you believe in equality? congratulations, you are a feminist", it's not necessary to be a part of a movement for recognizing who are equal, it's better to be independant from them
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Thought I did agree that if you are against the bigots, they assume you are a SJW. Nope, they are not decent human beings. They even support the ISIS. What the fuck!
Agreed. I don't have to be a feminist to be a supporter of equal rights.
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Wait what?! they supports ISIS?!
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