MyDearWatson In reply to varenoea [2010-05-01 13:41:53 +0000 UTC]

Um... I'm... sorry?

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varenoea In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-05-02 07:27:25 +0000 UTC]

I cry when I imagine Brett playing Holmes... but that's a question of personal taste

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MyDearWatson In reply to varenoea [2010-05-02 17:51:14 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I have a friend in 'real life' who doesn't like him too. Personally, I think he really plays it as 'Holmes, just lept off the pages of the books', but that's also just a personal preference! Who do you prefer in role?

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varenoea In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-05-02 19:37:46 +0000 UTC]

I like Downey, but I almost like Livanov better (from the Russian series, it's on youtube, if you want to have a look, oh, and don't forget Vitaly Solomin, he's the cutest Watson ever).

What it all comes down to is that a movie is always someone else's vision, not your own. So there's no perfect movie, but I really like all the different versions of "book" Holmes that you get to see here on DA.

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MyDearWatson In reply to varenoea [2010-05-02 21:03:10 +0000 UTC]

Mmhmm, RDJ did a very good job. Oh! I love Vasily Livanov! He's so... Holmesish! And yes, Vitaly Solomin is so grumpy looking sometimes, it's so cute. :3 I haven't seen all of those (last I checked, I'd seen all they had on Youtube, but I haven't checked lately) but what I've seen, they're splendid.

That's an extremely good point, and one I've been thinking about a lot, particularly, in a sort of unrelated note, when it comes to versions of Hamlet. I love a lot of versions, but there's always something missing, a lot like with Sherlock Holmes adaptations. Yeah, I love seeing the many varied versions of Holmes on here, people are so creative. (Also, it's great how different the many Watsons are, as he's never described beyond having a mustache in canon.)

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-22 15:22:13 +0000 UTC]

Right, I completely agree. XD Seriously, I went with the mindset that this was some sort of distant cousin of Holmes's with the same name that likes to pretend he's Holmes.

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-22 18:08:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, and he also likes to immitate British accent.
You know, when I first saw this movie in a theatre, I didn't know anything about the Holmes universe (well only the stuff EVERYBODY knows, like he's a detective and he has this friend/sidekick called Watson, and they live in Baker street in London)
I have to say - this movie inspired me to get to know the REAL Holmes, so I dug out the books, and downloaded and watched the Russian series, since they said it was true to the canon.
After that, I went to watch the movie AGAIN, but this time, I found it considerably less interesting than the first time I watched it.. (And my mom didn't like it right away)
Am I talking too much?

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-22 19:51:39 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha, yes. At least his accent isn't cringe-worthy...
Well, that's good, you know, because it gives us Holmesians hopes. I know a lot of the more experienced fans (I've only been a fan for about as long as I've been a deviant (okay that sounds really wrong XD)) were absolutely dreading the idea of all these new fanbrats coming in and saying 'Holmes isn't hot in your picture! I hate you! Spam spam spam' or just being generally annoying, which is mean, but that's how the world works and now I'm digressing. So it's good to hear that the movie (I actually really like the movie, as a separate and AU being as you mentioned before) spawned some new fans like you who want to know the roots.
I really love the Russian version, but Granada is my personal favorite and at least the early serieses (Adventures and Return) are almost perfectly canon except for the whole 'Watson isn't married' deal. Jeremy Brett was very picky when it came to canonocity yay I made up a word.
Seriously? If you're talking too much, than what am I doing? XD

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-22 20:27:59 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, his accent was pretty good, actually. I'm glad he didn't just talk with an American accent - that would have made the movie even MORE AU, if that's possible! (apparently, it is) (Hey, do you think they will get Holmes and Irene together in the sequel? Yay for noncanonocity (I rendered your made-up word)!
I've been a Holmes fan for maybe two months (ever since I saw the movie, and I already saw more than half of the Granada series too (which I LOVE, I must say), and almost all Russian series, except the two last eps, where Sherlock retires (the thought makes me sad somehow)...
Oh and I couldn't bear to watch "Sign of Four" of the Granada series, and seeing that ummm, romantic tension coming from Watson, it was kinda awkward (plus they didn't get married anyway...).

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-23 03:02:52 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. HAHA, yeah that would have been weiiird.
(Oh goodness gracious me, I dearly hope not. *shudders* If there's one thing I can't stand, it's Holmes as a sexual being of any kind. He may not be the automaton that Watson described, but sex seems so alien to me in assocation with the character... *cringe* But wish what you must, even if it kills me a little inside. XD)
That's great. The Granada series is my comfort food, seriously. Ever have a bad day? Nervous for the next? Something troubling you? Go watch JB being awesome with the adorable either David Burke or Edward Hardwicke in tow! JOY! XD
Seriously, you have no idea how depressing Sussex and bees are to me. D: Why? (Wickerman flashbacks: Not the bees! NOT THE BEES!)
AHAHA, yeah, I know, how awkward IS THAT? XDDDD

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-23 11:17:24 +0000 UTC]

Holmes is passionate of course - during cases (where he can live on passion\thinking (?) alone, without food or sleep), but in no way sexually. So it's wrong all the way.
Heh, you sound like a commercial about Granada series
Hey, I just saw "The Devil's Foot", where Holmes burried his drugs in the sand. I think they left out a lot of things, like what pushed him to it, and a lot more... But I found an AWESOME fic about it, and it filled all empty spaces! (Honestly, SH fics are mostly awesome! Even a couple of slashy ones, but I don't take them seriously, I actually enjoyed only ONE).

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-23 22:46:07 +0000 UTC]

You're absolutely correct.
HAHA, I rather do, don't I? I just completely love that show, though, can't help it. XD
Yeah, true, but I do like that Jeremy Brett decided to take that step at all, I mean, canon Holmes doesn't. It's for the children!
Oh, yes, I do indeed enjoy well-written Holmesian fic, which there is a lot of, thankfully, as it is a rather small fan-base... I just realized I can't really say that anymore.
Yeah, slash frightens me a smidge. Holmes? Watson? NOOOoooo... my soul is dead... XD Seriously, though I don't doubt there are some well written slashfics, I just avoid them because it's not my thing. I mean, I avoid ALL romantic Holmes fic, so that tells you something too, I guess.

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-24 05:45:43 +0000 UTC]

He doesn't do that in the canon then? That's sad... Well, he lived long enough in the canon, so we know that didn't let that bad habit kill him
About slash - I actually hate it, and I just looked at some fics with it, in order to take a break from all the canon-like good written fics (not to say that slash fics are badly written or anything), but I COULDN'T go on reading a fic when it got to the.. romantic part...
As I mentioned before, there was only ONE slash fic I could handle, and it happened to be based on the movie, which is AU for me anyway, so slash based on it was even more AU, and I just sat back and enjoyed the rather funny and witty dialogue there, with little amount of sexual stuff mentioned, and without it getting too fluffy or romantic, although it was ALL present, but kinda hidden smartly. That's why I enjoyed this one fic. So I had my dose of AU slash, and I'm back to canon. (Hey, but I DO enjoy a little friendly fluff!)

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-24 15:06:15 +0000 UTC]

Yeah... it is sad. But, at the time the books were written, it wasn't considered a bad thing. Watson was rather ahead of his time in knowning it was bad and admonishing Holmes for it.
Yeah, so do I. Haha, right!
Oh, yeah, I totally understand. I did read an unmarked Holmesian slash fic once, and really enjoyed it until it got to the romantic part and I was like "What? NOoOooo... oh well." XD
Yeah, same here. Holmes and Watson's friendship is completely co-dependant and yet adorable so I love reading friendship fics.
On a semi-related note, the Granada series's portrayal of their friendship makes me confused as to how Holmes could move away to a bee farm and be away from his BFF for so long. If I had a friend for as long as he and Watson had been friends, I don't know if I could move away. But then again, maybe he was bitter about the fact that Watson had married again. *shrugs*

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-24 17:15:46 +0000 UTC]

You mean Watson actually REMARRIED in canon? Or is it just a speculation? Because if it is, I'll keep thinking he never remarried! It complicates matters, I mean that's why Mary was killed off, right? And didn't Holmes move away from just London, where Watson still had his practice or something, so he couldn't move too? (Sorry, but I don't know that part of canon yet. Haven't read that far.)
(LOL- BFF!) Holmes was always independant - BFF or not.

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-24 21:02:10 +0000 UTC]

Well, it's assumed because after Mary died, he moved back in with Holmes, and then during one of the cases that Holmes narrates (the Blanced Soldier, maybe?) he mentions that Watson had left him for a wife, so that would be a new wife...
And, yeah, Watson still lives in London and Holmes moved to Sussex, so Holmes mentions Waston visiting him occasionally...
(Oops, spoiler?)
(IDK, my BFF Watson?) Very true...

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-24 21:24:33 +0000 UTC]

*Skips through the "Blanced Soldier"*
He DOES mention a "wife"! Damn weird... He could've kept Mary in this case. :-P and there's no mention of that wife again?

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-25 00:04:03 +0000 UTC]

I know, right? But maybe ACD just wanted Watson to move back in with Holmes at the time because it was more convenient? And then invented the wife in Blanched Soldier to give an excuse as to why Watson wasn't narrating this particular tale? *shrugs* Nope, not as far as I remember.

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Demona1 In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-25 13:29:21 +0000 UTC]

That's a stupid excuse Plus Watson should be forever "married" to Holmes!

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MyDearWatson In reply to Demona1 [2010-02-25 21:02:01 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, it is. HAHA, true.

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MyDearWatson In reply to XxXnoodleXxX [2010-02-01 15:34:04 +0000 UTC]

Same here! Yeah, he was a great Holmes, but HAHAHA he is so short... <3 <3 <3 Not too good for Holmes, but I'm short too, so, But the scene where he was walking through the jail... hahaha... Oh, yeah, there was quite a bit of canon refs, which was awesome!
OhyeahIknowugh. Right, I think that to a modern audience, the relationship between Holmes and Watson can be seen as borderline homosexual, so they had to add a heterosexual love for Holmes. I don't think modern audiences can understand asexuality in a man, or a strong friendship without the need for love of a lustful, physical type... But hey, you can think what you want! With me, Holmes will always be asexual, and Watson very straight. XD

Haha, don't worry about it, I'm the same way.

I know, right? XD

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XxXnoodleXxX In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-02 02:24:52 +0000 UTC]

Well I wouldn't say I'm a W/H shipper but I'd like to think that Watson has a bit too much love for the man and that Homes is much too asexual and full of himself that he just doesn't seem to notice... then again I can't say I like the attention tat is brought about by the online network... also I'd say that what REALLY started the H/W thing was Jeremy Brett and Edward Hardwicke cos they had so much chemistry on camera. But all in all I can't really find anything sexual about the relationship in the books besides the random appearances of Holmes at Watson's bedside lol even then, strong relationships were normal of that time. It's modern society that doesn't understand true friendship! I myself prefer a close circle of friends and hate the contrived student body that collects within our towns and cities! We should teach them a lesson

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MyDearWatson In reply to XxXnoodleXxX [2010-02-03 15:19:31 +0000 UTC]

Heh.

You think? I guess I just never saw it between JB and EH... but then again, I don't possess what others term 'slash goggles'. XD

Hahaha, yeah, maybe. He does randomly show up there at strange moments... Yeah, exactly! Modern society... *shrugs* I agree. XD

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XxXnoodleXxX In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-04 05:20:17 +0000 UTC]

well, I do have my moments of "slash discovery" it just sorta happens lol

Ya, lol the only person I'd actually like showing up at the end of my bed at strange intervals XP anyone else would be kinda creepy O_O.....

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MyDearWatson In reply to XxXnoodleXxX [2010-02-05 00:15:40 +0000 UTC]

Hahaha! Yeah, well, if you were rooming with someone, it might not be that odd, right?

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XxXnoodleXxX In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-05 00:17:37 +0000 UTC]

Not unless they stood there and just stared at you

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MyDearWatson In reply to XxXnoodleXxX [2010-02-05 00:20:57 +0000 UTC]

Okay, yeah, I can definitely see what you mean. And now I'm slightly creeped out. XD

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XxXnoodleXxX In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-02-05 03:27:16 +0000 UTC]

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MyDearWatson In reply to iamfergie [2010-01-14 15:18:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Haha, I hope so! I'd hate to meet someone who went through their life without experiences some of the most hilarious laughter in the world! That person would likely be very depressed.

Yeah, he's not terrible by any means, and I quite enjoyed most of the new film, but definitely not my Holmes either. Heh, love that point of view!

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MyDearWatson In reply to toidarian [2010-01-12 23:28:47 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yes indeed!
Ohmyword, I giggled so hard at the part where he was walking through the prison! Everyone was so much taller than him!
But, yeah, I definitely agree, he did a great job with the film. Very Holmesian apart from the appearance. Thanks for the favs, by the way!

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toidarian In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-01-13 00:09:32 +0000 UTC]

You're quite welcome! And you icon is amazingly cute, by the way. X) DETECTIVE AWAY!

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MyDearWatson In reply to toidarian [2010-01-14 15:14:50 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! (Thanks for the devwatch, too! XD) *A Granada Sherlock Holmes television version of the Superman theme music ensues* ... I wonder how that would sound. XD

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toidarian In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-01-14 22:41:55 +0000 UTC]

Haha, that would be interesting. Personally, though, I could see Sherlock with a violin Superman theme!

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MyDearWatson In reply to toidarian [2010-01-15 17:20:01 +0000 UTC]

Haha, yeah! XD

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toidarian In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-01-15 23:22:29 +0000 UTC]

Have you got a larger picture from which you made the icon, perhaps? :0 I'd love to see it if you do!

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MyDearWatson In reply to toidarian [2010-01-15 23:41:30 +0000 UTC]

Yes, indeed, it's on my front page, down a bit under 'webcam'. Because I needed a pic for it. XD

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toidarian In reply to MyDearWatson [2010-01-16 00:19:35 +0000 UTC]

Ah! I'm sorry, I didn't see. x_x; I miss things all the time -- I must be completely blind.

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MyDearWatson In reply to toidarian [2010-01-16 01:15:34 +0000 UTC]

No worries! I should like to draw a new pic for that and post the one that is there in my gallery since so many people seem to enjoy it, but I have lack of inspriation for a simple Holmesian pic to put there. :/

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MyDearWatson In reply to CarmenTheBohemian [2009-07-04 00:51:43 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad. Yeah... ooh, Adrien Brody would be a good Holmes, never thought of that. Oh... yeah... I agree. Haha, I didn't dig Depp's choice of voice much either. As much as I love Johnny, his acting decisions in that movie were wrong, but I have a bigger beef with what Tim Burton cut from it than anything else... :/ Leave my Sweeney intact!

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CarmenTheBohemian In reply to MyDearWatson [2009-07-04 18:36:01 +0000 UTC]

OMG A true Sweeney Fan! You may possibly become my new BFF! xD I swear, saying anything bad about Johnny Depp nowadays is worse than any racial slurr could be. I mean, I'm not saying he's not talented, but Tim seriously needs to stop using him in his movies. This is getting ridiculous. I honestly was really hoping for RDJ to play Sweeney...he may not be by ideal Sherlock, but he would totally kick ass as Sweeney Todd! And I get what you mean about Tim cutting things out from the movie. I CANNOT believe that he cut out the beginning ballad. That was unbelievably disappointing. And now he's given Johnny a starring role...YET AGAIN in this new Alice in Wonderland movie. Alice in Wonderland is extremely sacred to me....and seriously...I cried when I found out Johnny got the role of the Mad Hatter. WHAT THE HELL?! He already played a psycho in an over-sized top hat in one of Burton's movies! Nooooooo! *sobs* lmao

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MyDearWatson In reply to CarmenTheBohemian [2009-07-09 14:57:34 +0000 UTC]

XD Heehee. Yeah, that's pretty much true... haha, yeah, he does overuse him! He also overuses Helena Bohnam Carter, but since that's his wife, it's understandable. Yeah, the Ballad was a great loss. I even had this idea for how they could have had it in the movie. You know that bit where they swoop the camera, superfast to Fleet Street? They could do something like that and stop abruptly at a person who maybe looks at the camera and sings a bit, then some more swooping and another person... like that. I was bummed at how they cut 'Look at Me, Miss' and 'Kiss Me'. Kind of lessened the love between Joanna and Anthony that way. Oh, yeah, Alice... I will admit I'm excited about that since it's not the original story... but that is a good point. I dearly hope he doesn't do his 'Willy Wonka' as the Mad Hatter, because that would be depressing. :/

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MyDearWatson In reply to JulietBeyondGoth [2009-06-30 14:48:23 +0000 UTC]

XD Thank you!

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