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Naeddyr — Steamopera Map of the World
Published: 2008-04-13 11:44:24 +0000 UTC; Views: 18418; Favourites: 105; Downloads: 1194
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A very WIP map of Earth for Steamopera.Side-note, found a great program for map-projections, much more useful than G.Projector (though it lacks stuff like ortographic projection): Flex Projector [link]
My plans for New Zealand already included feathered pseudo-dinosaurs (cousins to birds) and whatnot, so I decided to make it bigger by expanding South Island into Zealandia territory. I don't think a bit bigger South Island's going to cause any big changes in the ocean-streams around here (I tried to figure out, but there's a pretty big gap there and most streaming seems to follow the Zealandia outline a bit), etc.
About the orange areas in the East Indies etc: Because the Technocracy of Netherland is basically a satellite state of the Republic of France, the colonial possessions of the Netherlands and France in the eastern hemisphere have been united into a single sphere of influence, which I've decided to call with the pseudo-orwellian name of Probationary Territories. These include the southern tip of the Indian subcontinent, most of Indonesia, eastern Australia (New Holland), South Island (New Zealand) and Kyushu.
The Japanese Commonwealth: This is a lose pseudo-federation of basically sovereign states in a constant low-profile cold war going on. Each of the states pledges loyalty to the Emperor, from the Republic of Ezo to the Shogunate in Eastern Japan (Edo), and the Daimyonate in Western Japan (Kyoto), plus something going on in Shikoku. Kyushu is French/Hollandish and Okinawa is British. Korea is a sovereign Kingdom, Manchuria is Prussian.
Republican bloc vs. Monarchist bloc in Europe:
The Conciliary Republic of France and its satellites: The Technocracy of Netherland (sic), Conciliary Republic of Swabia, Conciliary Union of Rhineland and the Swiss Republic (+ places like Republic of Lucca.
The Union Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland + Hanover (Vicky is a boy).
K. Prussia. Kingdom of Saxony. Kingdom of Denmark.
The United Kingdoms of the Danube (Danubia, Donavia? Donauia?)
Russia is split into northern and southern states: Old Russia is the rump of the old St. Petersburg Tsardom, including Livonia and the Grand Duchy of Finland. The Ruthenian Empire is... The result of a Russian Napoleon, I'd guess. There was a republican revolution, which ultimately resulted in a charismatic neo-imperialist Emperor.
Africa: I have no idea. I just cut it into random bits and pieces and gave them out willy-nilly to the big powers. I trust this is sufficiently authentic in tone. The French African territories are no part of the Probationary Territories, and not jointly ruled by the French-Dutch concorde.
The colours may be a bit hard to read so here: British Bengal, British Pakistan/Afghanistan, some sort of thing going on in central India, etc.
Of the states in America, the Emigré Kingdom of Louisiane actually has colonial possessions in India and other places.
South America is generally random. I have no idea what would be plausible, and my idea for an ironically delicious split Brazil/united Spanish South America isn't very plausible. Possibly I'll later do them along more ethnic/linguistic areas.
Ah, and the center meridian on the map is +40 degrees so's you can see New Zealand better. This cuts Alaska off North America, but that's ok; by an amazing coincidence, the eastern border of Russian Alaska goes exactly through that same parallel.
The projection used is Winkel II. Should give it a Steamopera-internal name, though.
EDIT:
This has bothered me for ages, but I never changed it, and I haven't changed it now, but I don't think "Turkmenistan" is appropriate here. I was going to write "Turkestan", but my mind must have slipped, and argh, I hope no one notices.
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I implore you to check my comments, please. That is, if you have enough time to spare, of course.
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In all honestly, I do not have the answers you want. This has never been a very indepth setting, and I have forgotten most of it.
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What a glorious map.
How the Korea and some parts of Japan managed to maintain their independence? How the Ottoman have managed to keep its Africa and European possessions? How much powerful and advanced UK is, compared to OTL? Is the Southern China territory of the France and Netherland? How about overall division of the Africa and Northern India? So much space remains on blank...
BTW, is it a Nineteenth Century map?
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I didn't do too much thinking about this map. Let's see... This is a 19th century map, but not that this isn't pure alternative history, this is a gonzo steampunk setting with space travel and Venusians and Martians etc. Britain is, eh, about the same; what would be core United States territory is British, and Canada takes the US's place, getting at least parts of New England, etc. This is not a very considered AH.
France is the leader of a republican bloc, part of which is also the Netherlands, and many of the colonies you ask about, Indochina, Indonesia, southern Indian subcontinent are part of that too. If a name starts with K., it's a Kingdom and probably aligned with Britain and Austria etc, I forget, it it starts with CR it's a Conciliary Republic and aligned with France. Check out the Europe map for more info there, there's an iron-curtain-like division with red. IPT are, eh, some sort of colonialistic republican term "Incorporated Probationary Territories" I made up on a whim for this map designating areas that the colonial powers don't yet consider... ready for independent democracy, that sort of 19th century imperialist thing.
Ottoman empire: eh, thought it would be cool.
Africa is, like historically has been often the case, just willy nilly divided up with random colors. Except Ethiopia and the Ottomans, everything else is arbitrary.
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Thus part of Southern China is also a republican colony? And if Southern China, Tibet, Manchuria and Japan are all conquered...how Corea managed to secure its independence in the first place? And how about overall situation of Northern India? It seems far from intact.
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Japan is balkanized and partly colonised. Hokkaido and Honshu (Western and Eastern Japan) are all nominally part of the same Empire, with the Emperor their nominal head of state, but of course defacto they are independent of each other, especially considering Hokkaido is the Republic of Ezo.
I don't really remember what I did with Korea. Most of the stuff on these maps is just willy nilly, it is just a science fiction setting so I didn't really bother with all the details.
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Why the republican bloc has not conquered Itary, especially Papal State? Was Iran conquered by Russ? How about overall situation of India and China?
Had Napoleon existed in this world?
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"Incorporated Probationary Territories". It's French-Dutch double-speak for "colony". "They'll be probationary until they get their shit together, then we'll turn them into republican substates... Oh, when? Who knows."
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HAHAHAHHAH "until they get their shit together" xDDD i litterally lol'd. great work i love the map
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It wasn't really meant to be funny, more of a commentary on colonial exploitation...
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Ruthania is in Ukaine XD just saying... 
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Yeah, someone already mentioned that. According to [link] it used to be a term for Rus and related places, and this is an alternative history map with a PoD in the 18th century so I decided to fudge it.
I'll quote:
"The use of the term "Ruthenia" on the lands of ancient Rus survived longer as a name used by Ukrainians for Ukraine. When the Austrian monarchy made Galicia a province in 1772, Habsburg officials realized that the local East Slavic people were distinct from both Poles and Russians, and still called themselves Ruthenians, until the empire fell apart in 1918."
Terms are malleable and can change easily. If someone had decided to "restore" "Ruthenian" to mean "Rus" and generally "Russians", in this case the Moscow Empire, that could easily have happened. People trained in Latin would have realised what was meant, and everyone was classically trained in those days.
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Ah, I see. Yes, much clearer that way. Thanks.
And yes, I know the nested thingy, I just don't usually bother with it.
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Well, you could at least reply by clicking the reply icon beneath the post you reply to - then it wouldn't mess up everyone else's view of the thread, and you would also alert the recipient with a message that you've replied to their post. This post last post you did replied straight to the first post (me), and if you had replied to someone else, they wouldn't have known you did so.
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Okay, fine, just to make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Happy Kwanzaa, I hit that reply button.
Usually I would say Merry Christmas, but it's getting old.
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Well, actually I was just clicking on it to make it bigger. That link right there actually made it worse.
I see.
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That is because your browser shows any sufficiently large picture sized down to fit your window - if you click the picture one last time, it will zoom in and show you the whole thing. If you're still using IE, you will have to hover your mouse over the picture, wait until a small button appears in the lower right corner and press that.
Also, you haven't noticed, but comment threads on dA actually have a nested internal structure. You can change your settings to show pages as nested threads. You keep on pressing the reply button to the first post instead of the post you're replying to, and so your posts always end up at the end of the thread.
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Also, the link I gave you is the link that is on the left side to the picture, called "Download". This link, present on all dA pictures, is a link to the original, unresized picture. Sometimes, it's the same size as shown on the display page, but most of the time it's a link to a huge original copy that wouldn't fit into the browser window. So there's three sizes: The minimised size (before clicking on the picture), the enlarged size (after clicking the picture), and the original size (which can be accessed through the download link to the left of the picture).
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Yes, I was looking at it full size because it was kind of obvious that it was hideously small otherwise. I had trouble reading Europe, whatever Guyana/French Guinana/Suriname became, Southeast Asia, and Japan. Indonesia/Thailand/Malaysia area, Southeast Asia, was the worst.
Thanks for enlightening me on Ottoman/Osman... espcially since I think you already did so once.
Cool.
[WARNING: Nerdy Rambling Ahead]
Technically, Maryland is named for Marie Antoinette, wife of Charles I (number may be wrong), who granted Cecil Calvert, the second Lord Baltimore, the charter for Terrae Mariae. But it's always been my entirely-unsupported theory that, since the Calverts begginning with George, Cecil's father and the first Lord Baltimore, were Catholics and Maryland was founded as a haven for English Catholics in 1632 (first settlers 1634); that Maryland was partially named for one saint Mary or another, possibly the virgin. Especially since the first settlement our-timeline, after the temporary St. Clement's Island landing, was named St. Mary's City (and county).
Poor Danes.
And yes, I really am fascinated by this world. With the exception of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie and a couple Jules Verne books (they seem really reminiscent of steampunk even though they weren't orignially) I haven't read/seen much steampunk, but it's always interested me.
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I will admit that the Japanese isles may be a bit hard to read, even in the original (with "view full" you mean the Download option that links to [link] , right?): those are Xicoqu and Ciuxu (to the French-Dutch Concorde, the Probationary Territories in the East Indies colonial sphere, the orange) respectivelly, with Republic of Ezo and Western and Eastern Japan.
There's lots of good Steampunk around: on the net, there's the (now webcomicised) Girl Genius [link] comic, for example. There's actually not that much Steampunk written fiction around. The work that ultimately gave the impulse to name the genre, Gibson's and some other guy's Difference Engine is what comes to mind, but it's not horribly good. Steampunk really is conceived more of as a visual genre.
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I'm watching this all progress with increased interest
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So you're keeping your *goggles* on me, hur hur hur?
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All of them, aimed in your direction, sir.
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Pretty cool, but it kills my eyes and the text is kind of (read: incredibly) hard to read.
I do have a couple suggestions for South America: Colombia? Possibly make it bigger, possibly rename it Bolivia. Make it so that somehow Simon Bolivar still existed and his nation, Gran Colombia, didn't collapse.
The rest I have no suggestions for.
On Africa I would suggest removing Ethiopia from the Osmanian Empire, just because Ethiopia was always so badass in our world. The only African nation, with the exception of Liberia (which is kind of iffy in this factoid) to never be colonialized. And what is this Osmanian Empire? It looks like it's essentially the Ottoman empire by a different name.
Also, two rename suggestions: Instead of Mexico, the United Central Provinces of America, based on the short-lived nation described here: [link]
Also, rename the Dominion of Virginia to the Province of Greater Maryland. Wait, did I already suggest that? Ooops.
Oh, and Sweden has Greenland instead of Denmark owning it this go-round?
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About the text size: This is where I say "Please view full".
Osmanian Empire = Ottoman Empire with a more federalised structure. Osman ~ Ottoman, that is, the founding sultan of the empire.
Mexico I'll think of. I have friends online who provide me with at least nahuatl.
What Mary is Maryland named after anyhow.
Yeah, and Denmark is pretty much screwed.
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Aijuu, unohdin ihan että eihän Suomi olekaan se tavallinen Grand Duchy Steamoperassa: Se on Grand Principality, eli vähän eri nimi kuin mitä meidän aikajanassa oli.
Sen lisäksi sen hallitsija on Drighten, koska Grand Prince kuulostaa tyhmältä. Drighten on sama sana kuin suomen ruhtinas, joka on lainattu kantagermaanin sanasta *druxtinaz, joka tarkoittaa suurinpiirtein horde-leaderiä. No, siitä sitten yritin keksiä parin ystävän kanssa, että mitä se olisi nykyenglannissa: drighten siitä tulisi, ja tuli: myöhemmin kävi ilmi, että toihan löytyy OED:stä (eli Oxford English Dictionarystä, Ze Dictionary), mutta että sitä olis viimeksi käytetty joskus ennen Chauceria.
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