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Once A Patriot - Part 5
Published: 2002-01-12 17:16:25 +0000 UTC; Views: 5302; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 586
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last of the series! my personal fav..focused on the flow in this one...hope i got what i was looking for!update!
Look at it as a photo and not a symbol! it was just art anyways....this isnt a political forum...heheh
SEE CHENEYMAC's AND LESTAT's COMMENTS BELOW ON THIS PHOTO!!!
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I'm a Canadian and a patriot to my country as you are to yours, and all should respect that. Anyone who critizes the symbol of my country is the enemy. Those who have critized your flag are also the enemy.
Now lets cap some asses!!! whoooa!!!
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Hate patriotism but the photo is very well taken.
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Patriotism pisses me off!!
(It's like a blindfold concealing the real world from ya - it allows terrible things to be done in the name of 'defending your country' and whatnot)
oh yeh and nitsuj-ex it's only normal that if a piece has a political message/subject matter that people are gonna comment on the political side of it. (not sure that there is another side to this, well the technical side I suppose)
Anyway as far as uhh... flag photos go - it's not bad I guess
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i love this picture... from a patriotic pof, it's wonderfull.. from an artistic angle, it's beautiful.. excellent work!! --> goes into my favs
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Incredible shot.
Never ever lose sight of your gift!
I'll kill ya
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That was the 100th comment on this deviation, btw.
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Fantastic photo man, going straight to my favorites.
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Some of you people need to grow up.......
If you you're tired of america and our patriotism, just don't look at the picture.
The sooner you guys get over it, the better of you will be.
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this is why i like dadaism. no matter what someone thinks of a piece, you succeed as long as someone reacts in any manner. the worst reaction a dadaist can receive is none at all. why am i posting this? its pointless. i dont belong here. i belong down in key west in mallory square with that short, sweaty escape artist who can be bound in a straight jacket, hung upside down and wrapped in chains and still escape in under one minute. him and louie. louie is that guy who tries with all his heart to be funny but just can't succeed. for example: he told us he was going leap through a flaming hula-hoop of death. louie then proceeded to light a cigarette, taped it to his hula-hoop, rolled the hoop and dove head long through it. needless to say he didnt make it all the way through. instead, louie fell flat on his face, burned himself on the cigarette, and almost fell into the ocean. wow. im not making fun of louie. in fact i admire him in that he was able to keep going even after he made himself look like a complete idiot. i just think thats amazing. i just looked down at my floor as saw the goo stains the sink left from when it overflowed two weeks ago and realized that i had forgotten that i was posting a comment on cracker j's photo, not telling the story of my life. sorry.
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No, I did not miss the point.
You're upset because you feel the only reason this got DD is because it is an AMERICAN flag.
I can photo-manip, airbrush, photograph, 3d model, until I'm blue in the face, but if for some reason it does not catch the eye of an admin, I will not get DD.
For all of you artist out there, especially the ones looking for attention. If you want your stuff noticed, choose a subject matter that people find pleasing. You will learn this if you choose to persue commercial art as a carreer.
Number one the piece is good. Number two it utilizes a symbol that is on the mind of a large group of people including matteo.
I know you were using hitler as an extreme point, but yes, if you are here for the purpose of getting DD, do something technically well, and use BEVO in that photo-manip instead of hitler.
*And if you don't know who BEVO is, try doing a little research on your target audience.
Didn't we have these same arguments with the Christina Aguilera airbrush?
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i renounce its patriotism, i'm quite sick of it too. but this is an excellent photo. i love the texture on the flag, and the lighting is excellent nice one
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very patriotic indeed, i love the flow of this flag, huge picture too
i guess i should go and take a look at ur other four
Tyler
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Thank goodness it's all over. Thank you nitsuj, and thank you for not taking what I said the wrong way, alstsi. To close, yes, the content of the photograph matters to some extent, but not nearly as much, at least to me, as what goes into making the photo.
That is all, OddFox out .
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wasnt violence, i just like blowing things up ^_^ !!!, well it upsets me alot becuase what makes a photo great is what? 50% content and 50% how the picture was made(ie focus, color, etc...etc...) and some people have clearly judged this picture only on content and none of the photos excently quailty, thats all
peace
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great photo, increadable texture and quality. i am not a big fan of the content, but this is increadable
(M)ango)(S)quash)
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Ok....enough... i respect everyone's political opinions, and i respect constructive criticism too. But thats what this part of the site is for...constructive criticism, and congratulations, not political discussion, or debate over whether patriotism is good or bad. please just comment on the artisitic qualities of the photograph...i just took this for me and perhaps for others to enjoy and it has gotten way out of hand now. Im sorry if people dislike the united states of america. we are not bad people i promise! just take this pic for what its worth artisitically! and read cheneymac's comment cause thats how i feel 100%. no more bickering please... this is hopefully the end of the discussion! take care all of you who commented! im sorry this went so far! this was not meant as propaganda!
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On a side note, alstisi, you need to realize that not everybody lives in the US, and many people actually do prefer other countries. Don't get so pissed at other people's opinions unless it's truly deserved. Discussion of a photo is no place to make threats of violence (No I'm not a hippy or anything, I just think there's a time and place, this is not the place). Cool your jets, too. Seems you've had a bad day.
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nitsuj, I'm sorry that it seems people that dislike criticism of your deviation feel it necessary to tell us to fuck off and such. Me personally, I don't have a problem with the flag, you, patriotism, you know. But really, if I were you, I would step in and tell people like alstsi to calm down. As for the people saying patriotism sucks, I don't think that anyone should even listen unless anyone cares to have an open discussion about that subject. The forum would be a better place for such a thing.
If it wasn't apparent from my last post, congrats, good job, right on, enjoy this, because I know I can't wait until it happens to me (Hey, it can happen). Lol.
Remember: There's nothing wrong with patriotism, the abuse of it is the thing to worry about. To remove any sense of patriotism/nationalism in a peoples is to basically say there is no unique culture, there are no unique traditions. Variety, the spice of life.
I'm sorry maddmatt but yes, you really, really missed the point of therevolutza's post. revolutza, if everybody walked their talk when it came down to it, you'd drop dead from shock. I don't really believe that anybody would rate this well if it was a flag of, like, China. Seeing as how I believe this is a place of art, and art is self expression, I think everything here should be rated as such, art. That would explain why I hate how there seems to have been a recent surge in porn submissions disguised as art. That's a whole 'nuther matter, though. I've typed too much already.
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Nitsuj...congrats on hmm, the uprising of this argument on your DD! Whoo hooo! That's my boy!
Seriously guys, keep bashing on this pho---er, I mean leave nitsuj alone! This is awesome photography, composision, lighting, ..ahh!! ^_^ You rock dude!! Du bist gefahrlich!
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Look everybody, I have read most of the post for this DD, and you know what? you guys all seem to be the biggest bunch of little whinny little bicthes ever, if you dont like it, I say Fuck Off. If you do like it, cool, put it up as wallpapper. Some of these comments are stupid, I cant even start to think about what could be said about some the artwork the whinny people have posted, you really dont want to get me started on this one. Also, ive got a great idea, make something better, get awarded for DD, so I can personally BASH the shit out of it becuase it sucks so much, this foto kicks ass, if you dont like the context of it, look and the skill, the clearness of the lens, the way the light hits the fabric, the fabric it self, the folds, the shadows, IMO this is the best damn photograph on here. I dont want to start a war, but if I do fuck it, a war needs to be started anyway, since all you people dont like your country go to a island, let me know, Ill glady Blow the shit out of it. But the good thing about this country is that your allowed to say things like this freely, try saying that in Russia, if you do, Id love to watch you get thrown in jail. Ok, now that im done venting, there is but one more thing I think I should say, everybody that doesnt like the subject matter, dont comment about it, comment on the quailty of the Photograph, and how it was taken, if you cant do that I think you should no longer be able to post anything, if you hate me for saying this, fuck off, I didnt ask you!
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maddmatt.. sorry but you absolutly missed my point
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Hey revolutza... do whatever you want. Many patriots of America and many other countries have died to preserve your freedom to photo-manip Hitler and not have to hail him.
As for the pic. Absolutely beautiful. It does take a great artistic eye to get a good flow in material without it being busy. And the lighting is oure genius. Not to mention the fact that the Stars and Stripes itself is a wonderful collaboration
of color and pattern.
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so if I post a photomanipulation of a picture of Hitler and it`s technically well done, everyone would comment on how it was done and it would be possible that i get DD and everything?
if choose to photograph such a symbolic thing you have to accept that some people will critisize you for choosing it.
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USA forever
good job by the way man
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Too much symbolism to be appreciated as "just a photo".
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Yes, dammit, I don't like flags. I like cheese. Why couldn't you have taken a photo of cheese instead. And I don't like red. Or small rodents. But you don't have any small rodents in this so I guess I like it. No wait, I hate it. You have stars in this. I am from a star intolerant family. We just hate stars like you wouldn't believe.
Ok, so next time, more cheese, less flags and stars and keep to the anti rodent theme. If any of those rodent lovers give you any flak just ignore them. I'm much more important than they are.
(Buddha, these people just crack me up)
Seriously man, this is an OUTSTANDING work of photography. I am going to check out the rest of your gallery, but matteo did a great job in picking this image for its artistic merit and talent.
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Very stirring piece! Well deserving of the DD!
Faithwalker
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This is an awesome shot and I don't care what flag it is. I liked the one with rifle more though. Congrats on the dd (I bet you never heard that one before aye )
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thats a really superb shot! U captured it very well
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It does not really make any difference to me that the subject is the American flag. It could have been another flag and still have been just as awesome, but thats not really the point.
The point is that its an awesome photo. I feel the colors of the American flag add a very nice cool feeling from the radiating blues and whites. I love how the light dances around the folds. I love the quality of the photo. I think this is excellent and well crafted photo art.
There were alot of wasted and pointless comments towards this deviation. Nobody cares how patriotic or anti-patriotic you are, and I don't really think the photographer cares either. Nor does anybody care how much you like or dislike America or its identity. Thats not the point of this. Its a photo. Its not as thought the photographer ever pushed American ideals of any means except for expression of his art. If you all are not going to comment on the art but cry how much you worship or hate America then do yourselves a favor and go sit in a corner.
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actually many care how patriotic or not one is. i care if one is. i really care if someone is not only not patriotic, but is very anti-patriotic.
and this photo bleeds sentimental clap-trap. especially in light of the illegal war in iraq.
but before i get jumped on for uttering the words "illegal" and "war" in one breath, here's some footing for you. you did ask me to provide this:
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let me know if you need some more. you can reach me at [link]
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Appearently you have no reading comprehension. Stop trolling threads years old in order to propagate your opinion. This is a fabulous piece of art, and your tangents are not needed. If you are incapable of commenting on the art then please stay away from art related deviations as you will only piss people off and work yourself towards getting banned.
I might be able to understand justification for your comment if the artist opened himself to your rhetoric, but the artist did no such thing. I did not warrant your post either as the clear intention of my post was to repel politically orientated replies, such as yours.
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i'm sorry but it isn't a fabulous piece of art to me.
big words don't make it so: i don't "propagate" because you say i am do such.
this art "p*ssed" me off, but since it is quite fabulous to you, i can't say so?
what you say in every post to me is opinion served on a silver platter with a dollop of rhetoric.
and any flag laid out like the artist's rendition can not be taken as anything but patriotism. if it was a nazi flag, i'd say it was nazi romanticism at it's most sublime....
any flag in that imaginal context would be so much sentimentalism.
my comments were right on the nose. but you disagree.
o and old links that, to me WERE relevant and perhaps a bit marginal, were relevant.
if i am wrong, then just get me banned and you can claim total victory with icing on top.
you are quite lauded and powerful here in this deviant realms.....
you still have an attitude that doesn't invite discourse. logic isn't all it's crack't up to be. see you down the black rabbit hole......
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this art "p*ssed" me off, but since it is quite fabulous to you, i can't say so?
You seem to have already forgotten what you have written. If you believe the art to be of poor quality then you are welcome to say so, but this is not what you did.
Since you have forgotten I will quote you:
and this photo bleeds sentimental clap-trap. especially in light of the illegal war in iraq.
This photo has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq. Now will you please grow up?
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i don't like your politics...and i admit you are good at debate club procedure...
now i admit, i am simply far left and comfortable with it....so nothing new there.
but it is tiresome how you like to try and catch me in a self-reflexively painted corner.
according to (post)modernist(e) rhetoric and and aporian descriptions of "subjectivity" i think only
i would be able to canscel my (authorship) out.
i don't assume you are an adept in navigating the un-, i mean, post-, i mean, trans-debatable realms of the new historicism and deconstruction. quite passe now i admit, but then so is every theory.
so, again, to me the photo still has everything to do with iraq. at this point in time in my experience.
but then again, as a surrealist, a rabbit is an ox imitating a rabbit....
o and i am sorry for providing you with those links to websites concerning news more than a year old. i should have known that they were past the expiration date and were sour.
p.s.
i do applaud you for watching CNN. and i am sorry i assume you watched Fox.
again, i can almost foretell that you will ask me to "prove" that Fox "news" is biased.
if not, i will grant you have great oratory skills (in print of course), but i wonder how much news you do read.
left as i am, i don't rely on blogs, right or left.
i'd rather be painting. or finding cheney (VP that is...) and rove getting indicted.
o do i need to explain to you in 800 words why i would find a thrill in that?
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Patriotism sucks.... :/ you have a photo-talant man... don't waste it picturing american flags.
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Patriotic, yes. Also quite beautiful. Further proof that there can be art to photography.
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Whoaaaaa!!! Congrats on the DD Nitsuj!!!!!!! You are definitely deserving of it. Heh... I can't believe I missed commenting on this one ;P
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this is fantabulous.. and so are the rest of your fotos .. great work
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Patriotism is good. The abuse of it is not. Either way, this is a nice submission, although it would get little notice if it was of most any other country. Even if the current events had happened there.
Keep up the good work.
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i think i`m allowed to say my opinion.
i see no reason why i shouldn`t comment if i don`t like it
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that owns. this guys photos rock
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amen...
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