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Description Most of them were child sexual abuse victims who were forced into the industry as young as 13.

The stamp says:
"Prostitutes aren't evil and I don't support shaming them. Okay?"

Or just look at this: [link]

EDIT: This has to be my most popular thing I've got going. WHOA.
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DragonKnightMirren In reply to ??? [2013-01-29 13:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Once again, saying that is ‘sexist’, ‘misogynistic’ and a ‘double standard’ is like saying men having penises and women having vaginas is ‘sexist’, ‘misogynistic’ or a ‘double standard’. It is laughably ridiculous and bloody retarded. The reasoning exists for a perfectly understandable, and non-sexist reason – the Penetrator-Penetrated Relationship. No, I do not think no-one should have sex, I just think people should be allowed an equal negative (as are people to a positive) opinion on it, as everyone should on anything (and vice versa). That is equality. I believe in equality for men and women. Women who have needlessly given their bodies up to men for primitive lust and sexual ‘pleasure’ are not real women and have no to claim to be strong or wanting equality since they cannot even keep themselves equal.
And I do not think women are ‘terrible’ for having sex for pleasure, they are just stupid, weak and have no self-respect, dignity or honour.

I expressed myself fine.
I understand perfectly well what a relationship is, and no matter what you say, a woman having recreational heterosexual sex for pleasure, due to the Penetrator-Penetrated Relationship, is allowing herself to be used by a man (not that all men are like that, of course). A true relationship would not have sex in unless it for having a baby (that is the only way sex can show love, as you love the person so much you are willing to have a family with them)

So, being intelligent enough to not have or ignore and resist lust and sex and being proud of that fact is ‘stupid’ and ‘preachy’? However, preaching about being a lustful slut and being proud of it is ‘fine’? What typical, hypocritical, Double Standard, Feminazi crap. Both sides should either shut up or be allowed to express those opinions. It goes both ways. I am not ‘harming’ anything. Only non-virgins and non-virgins alone can do any real damage to themselves, by being so self-destructive (just it is the drug-takers and drinkers alone who harm themselves). If I were being, say, racist, fascist or homophobic, that would harming as your race or orientation is natural, where as having recreational sex is a choice, so people may chose to have an opinion on it, positive or negative.
I am not ‘preaching’, nor is it for ‘attention’. I am (once again) expressing my right to an opinion. Is that clear enough, or has that sexuality activity rotted your intelligence so much that you cannot read properly and understand it?

Enjoying sex is the most abnormal thing a woman can do, as she is (once again) enjoying being used. Besides, ‘normal’ has no definitive definition. Again, another Double Standard - that not having sex and expressing pride in that (one of the few things I can, without feeling cocky) is ‘stupid’ ‘strange’ or ‘conflicting’. You really have been stupidified by your lust. Tough shit if people ‘don’t want to hear it’. People have a right to say what they want, even it is considered wrong by others. What is so fucking hard to understand about that, people?! I am showing the other side of the argument whether they like it nor not. If you do not want to want to hear it, do not listen. Simple. Go down to the sewers where your filthy, defiled body belongs so you do not have to hear it.
BTW, as a non-virgin, you have a bloody cheek and hypocrisy to find bestiality (or anything for that matter, especially sexual things) disgusting, as you are so animalistic (though I do not consider our fellow animals as less than us) as to give into lust, and allow and enjoy having a human male’s penis inside you, so you might as well have an animal’s one inside, as it does not make any difference.

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Volcano-Queen In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-30 18:56:06 +0000 UTC]

So it's not sexist to believe only women are weak if they have sex for pleasure? Equality my arse.

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endler In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-30 08:02:08 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes, excuse the grammatical errors within my own text wall. I'd say that it's because I shouln't be trying to have discussions early in the morning, but we all know it's because I have experienced the feel of an orgasm.

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endler In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-30 07:58:54 +0000 UTC]

Okay. After reading a lot of this whole argument about sex, I get it.

You don't like sex, you don't want to go to sex, alright. Not everyone wishes to participate in sexual activity.

But that doesn't give you the right to go around and say that anyone who has ever had sexual activity brainless, filthy, weak, willing, slut just because you don't want to participate in it and just because you seem to believe that it's the worst thing in the world. You don't know the millions of women who've ever had sex. You don't know if they're actually weak or not because you don't know them and this one thing shouldn't define whether someone is weak and mentally feeble.

To answer some of your more pointed sentences:
Actually going on about being an actual slut (ie, a girl who sleeps around with multiple men without much thought to it, not just a woman who has sex - believe it or not, some girls prefer to keep loyal to one person, or truly feel more about the well being of the man they're with beyond his body) is stupid.
And I don't think it's the being able to resist sex that's making your text walls stupid and preachy. It's the fact that you've indicated multiple times that because of this you're much more intelligent than anyone who dares fall to the EEEEEEVUUUUUUUUUUUL lures of the most dreaded world of hanky panky.

You are correct that you're just expressing your opinion. But, look here missus; that doesn't matter. Pull that card all you want, people are still think you're going to be a complete prick. They know it's just your opinion, but many people aren't going to give a flying shit over that. And really? Saying that if she isn't aware that it's an opinion, it's because she's had sex before? That's just, to be blunt, the most stupid thing I've read on this site. That, my dear, is impressive.

Finally, if I may, the whole abnormal thing.
Enjoying something touching the sensitive areas of our body that bring out pleasure is abnormal.
I don't want to know what isn't abnormal in your eyes.

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Typhloser In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-30 06:58:06 +0000 UTC]

It's an innate thing to want to have sex. Because it's something we have to do as a species, I don't think of it as defilement. Defilement would be something unnatural or unclean. Sex is natural. Its cleanliness is something that probably isn't easy to measure, as well as circumstantial. As a virgin myself, I can kind of see your 'women being used' point, but what in cases of male rape? The guy is being used as a tool for the woman rapist. Yes she's technically receiving, but at the same time, she's not the man's tool. She can also penetrate him (with help) in two areas (unless the mouth counts, then three). Is the man still the user in those cases?

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-30 03:03:31 +0000 UTC]

Holy text wall batman! Do you really expect me to read any of that drivel? Lord... I enjoy reading and I wouldn't be able to read that preachy speech. How could you even think that anyone would be able to?

You replied to me four times, in which you used seven hundred and fifty-two words. And really, all you're doing is repeating the same thing over and over again without giving any evidence, scientific facts or linking me directly to studies that prove your point. Therefore, you just gave a rant that contained nothing but bull, and yet wrote more words than most college students write in an essay. Can you really be more ridiculous?

The only part I managed to catch was the part where you claimed bi-romantic was different from asexual, in which it is certainly not. I thought you'd have the sense to research at least that before making a fool of yourself.

"Bi-romantic is a term used in the asexual community to describe romantic attraction to more than one gender, despite the lack of sexual attraction."

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Cr1kk3t In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-01-30 23:59:09 +0000 UTC]

"Bi-romantic is a term used in the asexual community to describe romantic attraction to more than one gender, despite the lack of sexual attraction."

I always thought that is what also used when a person's sexuality didn't match up with their romantic too. Like someone can be bi-romantic but hetero or homosexual.

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to Cr1kk3t [2013-01-31 02:23:57 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure, perhaps it's used that way in a casual sense. I think I remember seeing Humon use it in the way that you speak of in the comic Niels.

But officially, bi-romantic is the term used to describe an asexual's preference of gender. I know of someone who is hetero-romatic, as well as someone who is pan-romantic.

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Cr1kk3t In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-01-31 02:39:09 +0000 UTC]

In the gsa club I'm in we've always used it to separate romantic attraction from sexual attraction. That is why they can differ so much... Hmnn.

AVENwiki even says what you are saying, but it doesn't say anything for the term being exclusively used by asexuals. Hmnn.

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to Cr1kk3t [2013-01-31 02:55:13 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure, but every asexual I've met has used this term, and various websites I've gone to have clearly stated it's a sub-term for asexuality.

Either way, she can't deny she's asexual. She doesn't have sex, nor does she ever want to.

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Cr1kk3t In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-01-31 02:58:59 +0000 UTC]

Eh. Sexuality is more complicated then we will really ever be able to understand.

I don't think she is asexual. She doesn't have sex, but I think that is out of a want to. I can't say for sure, but it's not like she has no sexual attraction as I think she has mentioned. I think she just chooses not to. If anything she is anti sexual for anything except reproduction. I actually think she mentioned that she did have sex, but it was for reproductive purposes. However, I would have to look over that again.

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to Cr1kk3t [2013-01-31 03:07:23 +0000 UTC]

I'd like it if there were no labels at all. We liked who we liked. No genders, no sexuality. I don't really believe in genders or any of that. Sure, we have different parts, but so what? It's not like we fall in love with penis or vagina, we fall in love with people. If girls didn't have boobs, we'd have no way of telling anyways.

If she said she's had sex for reproductive purposes, she's a hypocrite because she said to me that sex makes you a slut, no matter what the reason.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-01-31 13:44:14 +0000 UTC]

"If she said she's had sex for reproductive purposes, she's a hypocrite because she said to me that sex makes you a slut, no matter what the reason.£

1. I did not say that, so you must be reading it wrong.

2. Again, another thing I never said or implied. At the very least, if you have resproductive sex, even if you did enjoy it, at the very least, I think you still maintain some of your strengh and are not a slut as you are foing for the proper, non-selfish, biologically reasons (unless you are on of those teenagers who get pregnant just to get a counsil house).

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-02-01 01:09:31 +0000 UTC]

Well, I'm trying to get pregnant because I'm in a loving relationship. But, of course, you've already called me a slut. It's too late to take that back.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-02-01 12:46:41 +0000 UTC]

Well, you have had sex for other reasons anyway.

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-02-01 22:10:31 +0000 UTC]

Really? How do you know that? Were you watching?

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-02-01 23:08:33 +0000 UTC]

Your words imply it. Why else would you think the way you do?

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Cruel-Quillish In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-02-02 02:28:53 +0000 UTC]

It's probably because I'm a sane. You seem to think that literally everyone in this world is below you, and fail to see when you're wrong. You don't even have the sense to see how far of a hole you're digging yourself. I bet you can't even see that people distance themselves from you and talk behind your back... I actually feel sorry for you. I really do.

I'm sorry if I said anything rude to you. I was getting defensive as you were being very cruel and profane with your opinions, and it was inappropriate of me. I've come to realize that you are just really tortured, and you're never going to heal if people keep avoiding you and giving you a taste of your own medicine. Maybe all you need is a friend.

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Cr1kk3t In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-01-31 03:31:30 +0000 UTC]

It would be much easier if we could just be ourselves, but I will say labels that everyone knows gives other people a good idea about each other in one word. However, people seem to take labels way to far sometimes.

I guess I am corrected- [link]

She still doesn't sound asexual... of course... I guess someone can be asexual and anti-sexual. I always thought that asexuality wasn't just about choosing not to have sex. I always thought it was the completely lack of sexual attraction to another person.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Cr1kk3t [2013-01-31 13:41:24 +0000 UTC]

I am not choosing not to have sex, I am naturally not doing do as I have no lust. That is asexuality, is it not? And even if I have or did have lust (but how would I reconise it, even if I did? This is an honoest question), I have/would, as a strong, self-respecting woman, ignore it.

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Cr1kk3t In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-31 20:26:07 +0000 UTC]

You said in another comment that you were looking for the right one. You didn't lack attraction, but you were waiting. At most if you aren't sexually attracted to someone, but possibly could be you'd be a grey-a. One of the definitions I pulled from wiki is people who can enjoy and desire sex, but only under very limited and specific circumstances. You say you wouldn't "enjoy" sex, but the limited circumstance fits you from what I've been reading about you in what you have said.

[link]

Demi-sexual is also another term you could use, but it's more for people that only feel sexual attraction after they found the personality they are looking for.

If I read it wrong and you were just saying you could have sex, but not feel the sexual attraction then I guess you would be an asexual. It's kind of hard to really determine what label you could use.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Cr1kk3t [2013-01-31 20:44:51 +0000 UTC]

I will not be sexually attracted to anyone. I am sick of people saying thigns like "It'll be diffrent when you find 'the right one'. I have only ever been romantically attrached to anyone (from the childish crush to proper romance) and even if I have (unknowingly) felt lust (though I would not really know how to do so), yet again, as I will not be a slave to baser urges, I will give into it.
Even when I think about having it for getting pregnant, I am still put off, though that is more because I do not think my body would be able to cope with pregnancy. I just cannot picture myself ever having sex nor do I want to.

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Cr1kk3t In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-31 21:23:23 +0000 UTC]

Then in that case I would consider you a sexual. I'm a bit put off by the thought of pregnancy as well. I don't think my body could ever handle such a thing. That is why I take steps to prevent pregnancy even if I'm not having sex. People think I'm paranoid and yeah... I might be by their standards. Though knowing I could get raped any time and anywhere scares the crap out of me. And it's funny. The rape part doesn't even scare me the worst. It's the thought of getting pregnant from it... or catching a disease. People aren't so kind to people who get pregnant out of a rape situation.

They try to limit them having abortions and even if they go through with the pregnancy people demean the woman by saying that she must of liked it. Afterall, people are spreading that thing that raped women can't get pregnant and it's stupid. You honestly just can't win in the eyes of society. Either your punished by having to give birth to the kid or you have it and your punished for having it. And if your going to say it's punishing the child to get an abortion you are right. Though it's also punishing the mother for forcing her to keep it. Pregnancy isn't all sunshine and roses like people make it out to be. And that is another reason why it scares me. I just do not want!

I don't know what I would honestly do without birth control even if I'm noy having sex. It it were ever taken away from me they would have to put me in a straight jacket. I'm not kidding. Birth control keeps me sane. It calms me knowing that I'm immensely less likely to get pregnant even if I'm not having sex. *hugs my birth control box*

Yeah... acting a little crazy, but when you've been raped before it's kinda hard to be like everything is okay.

Plus birth control actually has a lot of health benefits. Yeah it has risks but not any more so than actually getting pregnant or any other sort of medication. Actually it's riskier to die from pregnancy than it is birth control according to the chart I have.

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Volcano-Queen In reply to ??? [2013-01-23 17:48:54 +0000 UTC]

Can you please prove and provide evidence of this being 'biological fact'?

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Volcano-Queen In reply to ??? [2013-01-22 18:59:29 +0000 UTC]

Not very equal and non-sexist if you only see the female as weak if she has sex, what about the male? He must be weak too if he enjoys it, right?

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projectsonic In reply to ??? [2013-01-21 20:13:32 +0000 UTC]

*transexual

Whoops.

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projectsonic In reply to ??? [2013-01-21 20:03:46 +0000 UTC]

>having a vagina makes you weak
So only transgenders are strong females? Something tells me that you either didn't think this through, or you're a master troll.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to projectsonic [2013-01-21 22:53:21 +0000 UTC]

No, desiring, allowing and enjoying what is a (still natural but for women) blatantly self-oppressing, self-demeaning and self-degrading process is weak, feminine, and WEAK. Only virgin woman and non-virgins-for-the-natural-result of pregnancy can make any claim to be a good, real, strong, independent, intelligent, Feminist, liberated, self-respecting, dignified, honourable (as prude means 'honourable woman', from Prod Femme), body-respecting woman. The former, not matter what they achieve in life, are little more than living sex dolls and sluts driven by primitive lust (of course know sexually-active people do other things with their lives, but that does change the fact that they are a non-virgin, and everything they do is only a distraction from that, as far as I am concerned) not worth romance (what sane man or woman wants someone who has had someone else inside them?). Sure, I have two non-virgins are friends, but they are not of the vapid kind and do not brag about their ‘conquests’, nor deny my right to an opinion. I know that will limit my dating pool if I ever get into romance, but at least those people will be (mostly) good.
Oh, and much as I have nothing against transgender people, I cannot consider someone born of one gender to be the other in the literal sense, as no matter what surgery you have, you were born with two XX or an X and a Y chromosome, and that is what you are, even if you do identify as the opposite (and a lot I have seen seem to do it for sexist reasons, like not wanting to wear dresses/being a feminine male/masculine female, etc).

Man, this is alot of replies. Get over it people. I am just one person.

PS: Assuming I am a troll because I dare to have an unpopular or non-branwashed opinion? Classic! Oh, random people of the internet, even you are becoming predictable.

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Nicholai-nii In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-03-26 19:13:06 +0000 UTC]

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fuckshit In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-22 20:01:15 +0000 UTC]

What if I have a penis AND a vagina? Am I oppressing and being oppressed at the same time? Does it depend on who I'm having sex with at the time? What if I'm having sex with a man AND a woman with my penis/vaj combo?

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to fuckshit [2013-01-22 21:56:15 +0000 UTC]

Urgh…more sarcasm. It is usually me who does that. Nevertheless - From what I have seen and read, hermaphrodites never have it that…constructed down there, and sometimes even have one removed to identify as a certain gender. As for that last line…all I can think is something immature – “Things would be a bit cramped.”

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fuckshit In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-23 03:09:37 +0000 UTC]

okay but I still have both. and it IS possible. and its NOT cramped. you didnt even give me a valid response you just tried to make fun of me for my sexuality go fuck yourself

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Nikaleles In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-23 03:02:52 +0000 UTC]

why are you looking at pictures of hermaphrodites' genitalia?

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Nikaleles [2013-01-23 14:17:51 +0000 UTC]

I will watch a documentary about most things if it's educational. Yeah, sure, something like that will never really be used, but I learned something.

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Nikaleles In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-23 20:04:40 +0000 UTC]

i bet you learned something lol

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Nikaleles [2013-01-23 21:45:43 +0000 UTC]

Taunting sarcasm again...?

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World-Hero21 In reply to ??? [2013-01-21 18:59:26 +0000 UTC]

So having a vagina and being on the bottom during sex makes us weak?

Funny, I thought being on the bottom was just a sex position, not a status. Besides, aren't all female animals on the bottom...? That's how sex works, at least.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to World-Hero21 [2013-01-21 22:34:40 +0000 UTC]

No, it is, as a woman, desiring and enjoying that (unforetunely) inate self-oppressing, self-degrading, and self-demeaning process that for the production of new life. Non-virgin women, especially those who are disgusted by other sexual things/porn/claim to be strong, the weakest of the weak in humanity. I, as a strong, independent, intelligent woman will never give my body to any man (though I will be friends with mostly them, likely), not even for reproduction, as I plan to adopt some time in the future when I have time for children who are my own.

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Aneirasilvermoon In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-07-19 16:41:32 +0000 UTC]

It should be illegal for you to adopt. Please don't raise kids with your idea of equality.

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ponyfluff In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-22 00:34:15 +0000 UTC]

"No, it is, as a woman, desiring and enjoying that (unforetunely) inate self-oppressing, self-degrading, and self-demeaning process that for the production of new life."

Because god forbid people enjoy things you don't. No, we should all just be a society of you-clones, as you are obviously Master Of All.

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Riza-Izumi In reply to ponyfluff [2013-01-24 22:47:00 +0000 UTC]

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-28 15:28:33 +0000 UTC]

Why do I always seeun into you on toics like this?

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to ponyfluff [2013-01-22 13:19:29 +0000 UTC]

*Sigh* How many times must I explain this to assuming idiots? People can fuck all they like, I would not be one of those people trying to actively stop them. I will never approve. I do not go out of my way to shame. I only shame those idiots who bring it up in the first place, like in this.

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ponyfluff In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-22 15:44:14 +0000 UTC]

"I will never approve."
You are one nobody in a sea of nobodies. They don't need or care about your approval.

"I do not go out of my way to shame. I only shame those idiots who bring it up in the first place, like in this."
And why do you comment even if they do bring it up? It's obvious that they don't care about your opinion, and if what you say will not change them, why bother commenting?

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to ponyfluff [2013-01-22 17:15:22 +0000 UTC]

So? I did not say they had to. As you said, I am no-one important.

Eh? Because I can? Because I want to show the otherside, and perhaps, both sides of the debate will learn something? REally, now.

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NOKAPIplz In reply to ponyfluff [2013-01-22 08:30:54 +0000 UTC]

THIS. WIN.

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World-Hero21 In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-01-22 00:32:37 +0000 UTC]

Well, of course sex is naturally enjoyable. Nobody would do it, if it wasn't. We don't do it just to have babies, you know. Even some species of animals do it for pleasure too, like the dolphins. But I do hate porn, because it's uncomfortable watching/seeing it.

But does that mean I'm weak? Absolutely not. Sex ≠ weak or self-degrading, for virgins or non-virgins. I think you're getting confused with prostitution and rape, with casual sex and sex in marriage. Prostitution is willingly giving up your body for money. Rape is forcing you to have sex against your will. Those are self-degrading/self-demeaning/self-oppressing, IMO. You're either being forced to have your body degraded, or you're forcing yourself to degrade your body, just to survive.

But then there's casual sex, which is sex during a relationship. And then there's martial sex, which is sex during marriage. Most people don't like casual sex because it goes against their religious beliefs, but there's nothing really wrong or degrading about it. For me, I've only given up my body to my boyfriend, who actually treats me as an equal human being and doesn't degrade me and use me like a tool, and out of both times that I've slept with him, we've used protection/contraceptives.

So yes, you can be strong, independent and intelligent...and still enjoy sex, as long as it's not rape. Because you know, that's the whole point of WHY we have vaginas; they're mainly there to reproduce. And the only way for humans to reproduce is to have sex. Just like all other animals. Really, we don't have reproductive systems just for nothing. If they were really there for nothing, we wouldn't be created to have them.

Something tells me you're just disgusted about sex and prefer to be asexual, which is perfectly fine. If you don't want to have sex or produce kids of your own, fine.

But don't go around telling other women that they're weak and stupid for having sex, which is what you're doing here.
This is why I don't term myself as a feminist, even though I'm all for equality between genders...Most of this group takes their views to the extreme, where it's rather ridiculous.

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DragonKnightMirren In reply to World-Hero21 [2013-01-22 13:17:56 +0000 UTC]

The only reason the 'pleasure' exists is to make the process of reproduction less unconfortable, especially for women.

No. No matter what you 'women' say, you are choosing to oppress yourself by allowing a man to lord it over you instead of treating him and yourself as equals.

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Aneirasilvermoon In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-07-19 16:44:17 +0000 UTC]

Dolphins and Bonobos must be total whores. lol

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Nicholai-nii In reply to DragonKnightMirren [2013-03-26 19:19:19 +0000 UTC]

Please do shut up. We get it, you find all other women in the world besides you weak and no matter what the man is always dominating.

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