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Published: 2015-02-21 20:44:47 +0000 UTC; Views: 2170; Favourites: 35; Downloads: 2
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The interior of the library where the local-Nazy-party-section holds its meetings twice a week. It is late, all the other members have left, only Stilfser and Ewin (who is the head of the section) go on discussing about politics and rehearsing the speech Stilfser has to deliver the next day.
The other characters are Stilfser's sister and Lusk (they are engaged
). Violet (Ewin's daughter) has fallen asleep on a chair, with her bat in her lap. And Iffy , of course.
This time I tried to boost a bit the shadows, because my other attempt they were faded and unconvincing.. But now I have those horrible black holes here and there, that are even worse
And I have still big problems in managing complex scenes, with several light sources... 
Credits: images from pixabay.com , textures from cgtextures.com , 3d models from sketchup.com
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E' curioso: i Nazisti hanno iniziato nelle birrerie per poi bruciare i libri, i tuoi Nazy invece? Partono nelle biblioteche per poi bruciare l'alchool?
Maaaa... la sorella di Stilfser... era la moretta caruccia dell'introduzione? Sembra molto cambiata, e ti dirò: il pelato mi assomiglia (di corporatura, ho ancora i capelli grazie al cielo 
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I am really loving these semi-realistic backgrounds mixed with your style. 
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Really? It is done with a 3D software.. 
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I meant the perspective on the figures, they don't match the back ground 100 percent
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E' vero, gestire una scena con più fonti luminose è tremendo!
Però questa scena ti è venuta bene!
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I think the shadows actually turned out great! There is a very good balance between the yellow of the lights and the blue of the shadows. I don't see any of the "black holes" you mention, either; overall, I think this turned out very well!
My only critique is that the second chandelier in the background (top left) looks a bit strange; I can't tell if it's lit or not.
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Thanks a lot my dear!! You're way too kind!! And the thing you pointed out: it is perfectly right!
The second chandelier is lit, but (in my opinion) its light was distracting the attention from the main scene under the first one.. that's why I lowered its light.. But I didn't dare to turn it off completely.. that's why the result is so uncertain.. 
Thanks a lot for your comment!!
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L'immagine in effetti mancherebbe di alcune ombre (sempre che non sia una tua scelta giusto perchè è una prova e quindi ti sei concentrata su altro), ma è davvero molto bella, molto vivace, umanamente parlando.
Certo che però, portarsi dietro i bambini in certi affari, cioè che noia
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ehh non dirmi che non ti è mai toccato aspettare che il tuo papà finisse di parlare di politica con i suoi amici!!
Per le ombre cosa intendi? Me le sono dimenticata in caso!! Altro che scelta stilistica..
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Politica o cose "da grandi" comunque, ma di solito eravamo io e mia sorella, e quando la noia diventava ingestibile, scattava il
"Mammaaaa....quando andiamo a casa?
Papaaaà..... quando andiamo a casa?"
Si si, c'è un cestino/portambrelli lì davanti senza manco un accenno d'ombra e forse anche Ewin dovrebbe averne un po' ai piedi...
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Ooh, I like the atmosphere of this scene. It's got that almost subtle tensity to it that it's not quite aggressive, but not relaxed. I also like how you blended the blue shadows with the golden light.
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Oh dear you're so sweet! 
So from now on are you going to use this account, rather than the old one?
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Lol. Hopefully I'll get the old one back, but for now this one will have to go.
And you're very welcome!
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hmmmmm.... si nota, si nota.
Così impari a dirmi che è più facile aggiustare le immagini che farle da zero XD
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Si si si ...nota cosa.. esattamente? 
Questa immagine è stata fatta da zero... per gli interni è decisamente meglio (ed è anche più divertente)
grazie per tutti i commenti!! Non vedo l'ora di vedere i tuoi disegni A COLORI finalmente!! mi metto comoda.. inizia il capolavoro!
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Mi riferivo ai problemi (di cui parlavi nel commento) dati dall'illuminazione... e comunque se ti abilitassi la lettura dei miei pensieri ti riempiresti di spam XD
Sappi che anche se non commento sempre, io vedo tutto! ...e sempre con piacere
Per i miei disegni (colorati da un altro ragazzo) ti faccio sapere...
Chissà se puoi vedere l'anteprima in questo Link:
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Fammi sapere
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oh bUT THIS LOOKS GREAT!!
yay Fun nights at the library e_e
Violet is so cute
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Thanks a lot for your comment my dear!!
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Hey, everybody has a few fall-ups when it comes to trying out alternative takes with their figures. Give it a bit more practice and I'm sure you'll be rewarded with the outcome. Overall, though I don't think these turned out too bad; certainly gives the scene a great amount of detail which probably would have taken twice as long by hand. So I say it's good to try something a bit alternative; it hasn't worked against the mood so far.
As for the scene, it's certainly intriguing to see how the simplest of groups can launch something so assertive and intimidating. Also had no idea that his sister would end up with Lusk; doesn't seem like a guy with the most generous personality at a glance, but then we don't really know much about him
Great work with the placement and construction of the scene, regardless. Looking forward to seeing how this moment plays out in the story
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Thanks a lot my dear!! All your remarks hit in the mark..
I draw these things just for practice.. that's why I push things to the limit and I don't mind so much if I overdo.. It is just to see how far filters can go..
I see them as my "gym".. while the actual comic is the race I have to run..
Thanks for you comment on the placement of the props.. Here too I think maybe it is a little too theatrical.. it looks like the characters are on stage, rather than in a library..
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ehhh perchè tu metti gli occhiali rosa quando guardi i lavori degli altri!!
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Thank you dear!! 
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I don't see what's wrong with the image
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Thanks a lot my dear!! 
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An agressive political party with radical views building on basic emotions such as pride, fear and anger and appealing to them with rousing and powerful rethoric holds their meeting in a library? What jerks... oh wait I forgot who I was talking about.
I asume the other visitors of the library and it's warden are thrilled to hear an annual party meeting and their views. Either they have no power to silence them or send them away, no one visits this library or the "keep quiet" rule does not exist in Epta.
Anyway it looks quite good in my opinion. Only at very bright light they stand out a bit, but the ones closer to the darkness fit in quite nicely.
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Maybe it wasn't clear from my description.. but the nazy meeting is held there after the opening hours.. when regular readers are not allowed.. here in Italy is a common practice that public spaces (such as libraries, swimming pools, movie theaters, ect) can be lent to privates or associations for a small fee, outside the opening hours.. I thought it was the same worldwide..
When I was young I joined a group of artist-philosophers-writers that met everywhere it was possible, from the local church (and we talked about atheism) to a social centers or at home of one of us (and because we were all poor our homes were incredibly small).. but in summer we met in the park under the sun.. 
On a techical side, yes the light there is a terrible blotch of yellow.. This image has many flaws.. but each of them is a thing I've learnt.. I hope I can avoid the same mistakes in the next one.. so that I can make some brand new mistakes!
Thanks a lot for your comment!!
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Well yeah you can rent places, but I never heard anyone renting a library or church in Hungary for such purpose. We have a lot of meeting buildings for these purposes. Maybe it just avoided my attention.
As for the importance of the place, yeah I guess it does not matter if the meeting is still held, but for a political one I think it would be wise to not go public like a park
Allthough in the light of recent informations, it's understandable.
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Ew, se non fosse per la bambina e per tutti quei bei libri spererei in una bomba nell'edificio.
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ehhh sarebbe terrorismo.. ma sarebbe anche un modo rapido per eliminare un bel po' di problemi alla radice!!
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Yes! Mi basta un po' di concime, io amo lavorare con le piante. 
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