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Update: Disabling comments on my stamps. As much as I enjoy a good debate, this was made forever ago and don't really care anymore.I really dislike hearing the excuse that you need fancy and expensive programs Photoshop or SAI or whatever to be a good artist. I've seen the Mona Lisa painted in MS Paint and realism done in crayons , so don't feed me that piss poor excuse.
These programs are helpful and they do let you do things you can't with just traditional, but saying that your art isn't any good because you don't have photoshop is like saying you're not a good swimmer because you don't have a life jacket.
Not to belittle folks who can't swim, but like there are great swimmers who don't need them there are great artists who don't need graphic programs to make great works of art. You become great because you practice and become more versatile.
I remember when I first picked up Photoshop, transitioning from traditional to digital, my art was HORRIBLE. I made stupid mistakes: my lines were sloppy, the coloring was horrific, and the burn tool was abused. Yeah, it might have made my art shinier, but it didn't make it better.
There are SO many rookie mistakes, both with the original art and the photoshop work, but the point of showing you that abominationOHGODWHY?THETHINGSIDOFORYOUGUYS is that even after a year of using the program, my art wasn't great. It was still crappy even when I had photoshop.
So please, guys: don't blame the medium--or even your scanner or camera if you can help it. These things are our tools, but not the reason why we suck from time-to-time.
Okay, since some people have been mentioning this: I don't mean to say: "Digital bad. Traditional good." What I'm saying is that we can't blame our tools or lack thereof of the fancy ones. Our skill level rests solely on us and our drive as artists to try harder and try new things--be it GIMP, SAI, Photoshop, Maya, watercolors, acrylics, gouache, charcoal, pencil, clay, whatever.
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I think my art is good but when I compare it to the stuff done on Photoshop, it looks like complete and utter shit. I mean, some people here are so immensely talented and modest about it that it makes me die inside when I see that stuff.
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Agree.
I have only Gimp, and I discovered all the things we can do with that program. Talent does not depend of the program we use. Programs, like Photoshop or Gimp, are just tools...
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Urgh, I'm so glad someone else feels the same way.Β
There are some people that always say to me "You can't be a proper digital artist unless you have Photoshop. It's not possible to become professional without it. Photoshop is THE program for professionals" Well I STRONGLY disagree.Β
I've tried many many art programs, and I just don't connect with Photoshop like I do with SAI. Everyone has their own ways of drawing and colouring, and I just prefer using SAI. There's nothing wrong with that!Β
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I draw and color using color pencils and pen, and I totally suck at digital drawing colorings. (Although I can color old photographs.)
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It's just a matter of practice, like any other medium. I'm sure your drawings from years ago aren't at the same level as your coloring now.
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Yeah, I guess so.
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I use Microsoft Paint and a mouse, and look at me!
Sure im not the best out there but I'm still just a student, and if i had to say i'm really good for my age.
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Just browse through the stuff made in photoshop 1st.
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I use GIMP only and I'm happy with that... I don't like photoshop/SAI xD
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I use Sketchbook pro. In my opinion, Photoshop is unnecessarily difficult.
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Like any tool, it takes time to get the hang of.
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Agreed. I too get annoyed when people give that same excuse. Sometimes I have people commenting on my art and saying things like, βYour art is SO awesome! I wish I had Photoshop. My art is horrible.β As if Photoshop magically helped me to draw it I guess? I was drawing long before I got any art programs for the computer and I cut my digital teeth on Paint Shop Pro before I moved on to Photoshop. And like you, I had a rough start, even using a mouse before I got a tablet. I actually still draw out my sketches traditionally with a pencil and paper because I like the feel of it. I only use Photoshop to ink and color and touch up things.
What people donβt understand is that as an artist, you can make art out of anything if you have the talent for it. It doesnβt matter if itβs digital or traditional. The talent lies within the person, not the tools. The tools are there for you to exercise your talent and to help you express yourself with. If anyone gives an excuse like, βI donβt have Photoshop.β then they arenβt trying very hard to express themselves. If they donβt have Photoshop, then they need to find some other program or medium to use.
I also hate it when people DO get a program like Photoshop and then are unhappy and disappointed and whine because they canβt make art that looks as good as everyone elseβs and then give up on it. Like they think Photoshop wields some sort of mystical power or something thatβs going to draw the art for them. Even with digital paint programs, you still need a certain amount of talent. Otherwise, it isnβt gonna work for you. If you canβt draw on a regular sheet of paper, then you arenβt gonna draw in a paint program. Nuff said.
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I still have no idea what I'm doing with Photoshop. None. But, I'm learning.
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I learned through tutorials and just trying stuff out--also asking other artists questions as to how they did certain things. It just takes time.
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I get frustrated because of how many years I spent learning to paint and draw by hand. It's this feeling of "What? Why can't I just know things??" Hahaha
Mind you, my laziness often trumps even the abilities I do have, but that is more of a personality flaw than a knowledge one. :-D
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LOL Trust me, it's a huge leap. I'm not a very good painter and I get easily frustrated when I try because I expect myself to be as good a painter as I am a drawer. It just takes patience. <8)
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Another one could be, "Photoshop can't draw for you" 
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All my drawings are drawn on paper with my own two hands. After using my scanner, the coloring process is done on MS Paint. I only use Photobucket to either A) Assemble pieces I drew that didn't fit onto the paper, or B) make a background, which sometimes, I choose not to have one.
So yes, your statement is incredibly accurate. In the long run, what REALLY MATTERS is the pride you take in your finished product.
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I really agree. A lot of my stuff is traditional, and I really don't have the money to buy Photoshop. However, I do use SAI quite frequently (even though my free trial is expired 
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So long as it works for you.
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Well, you need photoshop to follow most tutorials.
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Well, yeah, you can't exactly build a model plane if the box only comes with instructions and no parts. :/
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True story
I use paint.net, a free and very simple though everyone keeps on saying that i will be an ever amazing if i use sai or anything.. I mean, they have these 'soften out' brushes, that make lines you draw more curved, wich just is cheat in the drawing
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Some people have been commenting on the comic I'm currently working on saying that it doesn't look traditionally drawn or they can't believe that I drew it by hand! Well I say that there is nothing wrong with drawing by hand and I find it easier!
Here's the page people were commenting on if anyone's curious: [link]
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While I do use Photoshop because I'm comfortable working with it and I think it produces good results, I fully acknowledge that there are people who can make art with nothing but paint and a laptop touchpad that puts mine to shame.
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I draw by hand at the moment, but I will probably learn how to use it next year. I would only use it to edit my pictures, though because I simply cannot draw with a mouse
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PS I only use it for text everything else is done in Sai for me.
Sai over PS
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I actually saw the Mona Lisa on MS Paint thing awhile back (and the person who did the art), and I have to say that THAT was the thing that inspired me to come here. Well actually, create art in general, but still. And you're right on the dot. What makes me mad is when somebody who creates fine digital art is a jerk and thinks they're all good because they use high-end programs like Photoshop. It's a great program and all, but it just gives too much help to allow one to acclaim such status (sometimes, because there ARE great people out there who use it right). But Photoshop is for what it sounds like; photos. But this is life, so I'll just have to live with it.
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Agreed. I knew a girl in high school who was all about coloring her art with copic markers. I didn't have the money to buy a large enough collection to use, so I made do with colored pencils, and remained envious of her collection to the point where I tried to make sure mine looked better despite its different medium. I'm lucky I got something out of it, but it does suck when people look down their nose at others just because someone doesn't have the shiniest version of this or that.
Now, I'm biased about photoshop being limited to photos. Plenty of people (myself included) have used photoshop to make digital paintings and other things. Kinda like how people usually use pencils to draw, well, Dalton Ghetti makes sculptures out of the lead . Yes there are limits to some mediums, but that doesn't mean you can push far beyond it's original limits.
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Yeah, it does suck when people do that. But it does feel good when you make something great out of what you have though. And if its better than theirs, then you're achieved life itself. Or they're not that good. Either way.
I think I said something that I wasn't thinking about. But you're right. It doesn't matter the medium in which one does art (or anything in general). I meant that Photoshop wasn't for digital art at first. Then one person got creative and drew with it. Then it became bigger with time, and now it's just some program that 'everyone' just needs. But that's just life.
Extra info: And since it is that popular, Adobe now has the right to charge $999 just for the program. And people still buy it.
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To the $999 thing...
Fuck that.
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Photoshop is actually lousy for drawing (In my experience)
It tends to lag. Meanwhile, some of the common Oekaki stuff is completely awesome despite a lack of sophisticated tools.
(The only reason I still use it is because it handles huge files just as slowly as little ones. Unlike a lot of other programs, which just get slower and slower the larger you make your file...)
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I don't think that's true. Some people are capable of working from the ground up in Photoshop. Some of my favorite pieces I've done I've done entirely in photoshop.
As for the lag, you might wanna check on your computer's memory/settings/etc. There tutorials online for ways to reduce lag and adjust the settings appropriately so the lag is reduced or altogether gotten rid of.
But, it also depends on what computer you're using PS on. I used to have mine installed on my laptop, but since getting my desktop, I uninstalled it since the system just wasn't as well equipped as my desktop to handle the workload.
Oekaki is cool, but I hate that I don't have the alt+ctrl+Z shortcut. XD
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I use sai but it's only been a year since I got into digital. But my real passion is traditional. (Even thought I have yet t post any hand works.) Still I've used digital so long. When I make a mistake on a piece of paper..it's like... "No undo tool"? (Manually erases XD)
But you're right, great works of art do not need to be done on a computer.
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Its more if you now how to use the tools correctly. xD I use GIMP and I abuse the dodge burn tool too much. ._.
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i used my sai trial, then i used gimp. then my computer went through system recovery, so i only had paint. then i got photoshop. but the thing that really improved my art was going through paint, no layers so i had to pay attention to little details. i still suck at drawing, but at least im better now
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It's fun when we're put outside our box or forced to learn something--sometimes it's that have-to that pushes us where we wouldn't have normally done it on our own.
And don't worry about thinking you suck. As long as you remember that if you keep practicing that you'll get better it's no problem. Art is a life-long learned skill--even the professionals are still learning.
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still, the best art product of all is a pencil with a good eraser C:
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this is definitely a true statement and a definite fave
people definitely need to apply themselves more and realize skill isn't handed to them on a silver plate and most of them probably think the silver plates are programs like photoshop and SAI
AND there are plenty of tranditional artists who's works sometimes look better than digital stuff!
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Which is totally why I linked to that Mona Lisa demonstration on youtube. Don Marco is a freaking crayola crayon artist. No digital. Just crayons. I never ever want to hear that you need a certain medium to do great art--It all boils down to how much you practice.
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people these days rly don't see the potential in everyday media
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Agreed.
Well I think pencil art is for the win. And duh some photoshop drawings on here aren't very better then MS-paint through.
Every douchbag can do a great photoshop picture, but a real pros impress with MS-paint.
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I believe this is common sense, but I still see the excuse or have to try and explain it every once in a while. I swear, for some folks there's no such thing as a difference between saying "Hey, I haven't quite gotten the hang of (insert medium here)." and "It's not very good but that's I don't have (insert medium here)."
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