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Published: 2010-02-24 05:00:26 +0000 UTC; Views: 231951; Favourites: 3526; Downloads: 2210
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EDIT: "Sugar cookie" is definitely not an official Disney term...it's my name for all the European Disney princesses. Like sugar cookies: sparkly, white, sometimes too sweet for their own goodEDIT #2: I'm not ripping on Disney! I LOVE and TOTALLY COMPLETELY ADMIRE Disney and their artists! I think I was trying to be funny, except everything I noticed about Disney's stylization came across as caustic.
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it made me grin so broadly my face hurts...
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"Elongated stop sign."
I sorry, but I literally lost it at that.
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Sigh.
The sarcasm in this was completely overwhelming and made you, honestly, look completely immature for the most part.
There's this thing called, style and artistic interpretation and the thing about all these images is that they are screencaps from the movies (which, unless you're an animator you wont understand that often when you're animating 24 images PER SECOND its understandable that some of the linework is a little sloppy and perhaps not all that anatomically correct).
But the thing is that if you're so upset and annoyed by Disney and their stylistic imprint, then why bother trying to mimic them? It would be far easier (and probably a whole lot better) if you tried to obtain your own style that you prefer and that would encompass your own beliefs and desires as to what a character should look like.
Rather than make a sarcastic tutorial that honestly could have been worked on a lot better and researched much more than throwing out all your own assumptions and such things. You might want to pick up and 'art of' book and actually learn what kind of effort goes into making animated features and understand that although women and ethnicity are idealized its of our own undoing and the way society works today that is commanding them...
Not to mention that, in more recent years we have princesses and women like Merida from Brave who is testing the stylistic boundaries set in animation entirely.
Long story short. Draw your own thing if you're unhappy. The world has enough of Disney and people who sit around bitching and complaining about them and not enough original style and people who actually work towards making their own name. Have fun with it you know?
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do you even read descriptions or
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I didn't get the impression that she hated Disney at all. It seems like the complete opposite actually. These tips are going to help me so much! She pointed out a lot of the similarities in each of the characters that I hadn't noticed before. Also, I think the drawings are all fantastic
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Its a matter of wording and opinion I guess. She was coming off rather arrogant and ignorant if you ask me really.
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Asldkfj sorry I've been looking at messages like this all day at it's kind of depressing. It's like, you make a tutorial when you're fifteen, and you try to be helpful and funny although all your sarcasm comes off as stupid and arrogant--because you're stupid and arrogant.
And then you're nineteen and a lot of your views have completely changed, and you are really embarrassed of a lot of things you said in this tutorial. But people are still going to get mad at you for what you said. It doesn't matter that the person who wrote the tutorial isn't you anymore.
I don't know, I guess I don't blame people for saying hurtful things to me. I sounded pretty bitchy and unlikeable, and the way I talk about Disney doesn't show them the admiration, credit, and I love I feel for their artists and their style. I love Disney with all my heart.
But I'm still getting really sad, because for every six comments that say "great tutorial!" there's one calling me an ignorant bitch, and the one stands out. I can handle it for a while but it's starting to get to me.
Anyway, I understand, and I'm so sorry. Age is no excuse for ignorance, which is what I was in this tutorial.
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Nah- You didn't. Perfect amount of sarcasm and honesty. Let 'em talk.
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Wouldn't it make it much easier for you to just delete the tutorial then if you're getting so much flack from it then? .-.
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It would be a lot easier. But I've never gotten this much attention on DeviantArt. I'm not that good of an artist, but I want to get better and I've always wanted to do little $5 or $10 sketch commissions for people. (I'm in college and poor.) I can't do that if I don't have any followers or pageviews.
It's also on a bunch of other websites whether I deleted it or not. And the NY Daily News just did an interview with me about it, so it'll be on that website too. There's kind of no right answerββI should probably just suck it up.
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If you feel embarrassed of this tutorial, but need it for the popularity, why not do an updated version?
Personally, I didn't care for it because it ignores a lot of the artistry that goes into drawing these characters. I'm assuming that you know a lot abut that now too. You could give people some fresh insight, gain more popularity, and have something to point to when you say "Yeah, I was pretty silly in high school; I'm better now."
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I'm seriously thinking about itββI'd like to bring in some Disney character sheets as examples, add a heavy dose of Glen Keane ideology, and just plain make the whole thing more attractive. You don't think it would be dishonest, to replace it like that? (Additionally I've lost my F#@(#$(*@#$(@#*$(#*$ing tablet pen.)
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I would do it as a part two or a redux. That way you can say that you've clearly changed some of your opinions and give a bit of an educated look at the Disney girls without rewriting history. That being said, I don't know how you feel about this version. If you can accept it as just a rant by a teen then keep it, or if you're actively embarrassed by it, then put it in storage,
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The names you gave for the face shape styles cracked me up. 
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Great analysis! Thanks for sharing!
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Perfect, this is the best tutorial
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Huh, very helpful, thanks for the tips!
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I did this: [link]
since a lot of people were saying the sillhouette on the left looks like a mans body.
If you want me to delete it I will.
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Wonderful job! I agree, the silhouette looks absolutely like a woman to me, but society has a pretty firm and narrow-minded grasp on what "feminine silhouettes" should be. I don't think we have that problem for men as much.
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that's because people cling to an idealized idea of the woman body that is not at ALL accurate in most cases.
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Exactly... It's not like there's only one shape that women can be. If there were then why would there be such a thing as preference =_= ..
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I wasn't struck so much by the general unrealistic depiction of the woman and her races as I was by the unrealistic depiction of the woman in comparison to the man.
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actually I love this so much 
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TODAY NOW DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOSSILS FOUND ITS HORRORS looking human
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This is a good tutorial but in the future you should try to avoid the word "normal."
Also, I understood the sarcasm about the Sugar Cookie Princesses (lol) but using is the word "exotic" for the Non-White princesses is a little other-ing. I know that's exactly what Disney tends to make us out to be, but for the sake of the tutorial, it's probably best to stay away from the terminology.
Also, I never even noticed the weird face shapes of the Non-White princesses. Now I can't unsee it.
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I know! Exotification is one of the grossest problems with society. When I made this a couple years ago I didn't even think about it, and the whole tutorial sounds really ignorant because of things like that. I'm glad you like it (:
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Love this. Same goes for Tiana too. It was like Jasmine with a Disney Hawaiian nose. But everything is definitely true. Psh and people have the audacity to talk about Barbie. They're not the only thing messing with a girl's self esteem. Disney, can mess with anyone's. Shoot, you even said sugar cookie...which is like the majority of all princesses. Then the fact that the people of color's features aren't even realistic is just shady. That's why I'm a Pixar and Dreamworks fan. I'm on the fence about those films as well.
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This was actually very helpful, thank you for putting this together, it seems like it took a lot of time and work. I appreciate it.
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I laughed so hard omg...
...though it actually is useful
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I DIED at elongated stop sign and iron man mask XDD
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Nice observations! I was studying The Little Mermaid the other day and was like "Dang is that waist thin!"
I've always loved Nani and Esmerelda's eyes, so thanks for including them!
If you ever want to make another one of these, I'd be glad to help with research.
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Actually, foot binding started to emerge in the Tang Dynasty but only became a trend in the Song Dynasty. So it's not wrong to say Tang Dynasty girls had small feet (some did practice it to a small extent) but most women didn't.
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The fact that Meg look so different is because that entire movie was in a completely different style. Every character looked far different than in any other disney movie.. besides, greeks are european as well so Disney wouldnΒ΄t have made so many big chances because of that
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i think you did an amazing job and i LOVED reading it but one thing i noticed, which im sure you got asked about it already, but, why did you skipped over Tiana?
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When I made this, The Princess and the Frog had just come out!
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Although a lot of people seem to be taking this much to seriously, this is a very good Disney style analysis! Good work.
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Iron Man Face and Elongated Stop Sign both made me laugh out loud! XD
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Absolutely flawless and the people who are upset with this are the very reason these things need to be examined and dissected.
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This comes across as a bitter critique...but what exactly is this?
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That's actually how I had read it too, it was very confusing at best...
Employing its own terminology and blatantly ignoring a lot of the individual elements in favour of clumping everything together, for the sake of a..."point"? I'm wasn't sure, though reading the comments now I get it was in jest. Like listening to a teen's inside joke, that makes all the sense to them, but not to those not included.
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Uhhh not a bitter critique. I think I just had a bad sense of humor in the tenth grade. It was supposed to be a cheat sheet of tricks to get closer to the Disney style.
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Not a problem!
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