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Description As some of you may know ,I am a metal sculptor who often uses Sacred Geometry in my art and constructions.
I have tackled the challenge of making a (large) NAUTILUS SHELL in stainless steel. I started from the premise that it represented the PHI or Fibonacci spiral. I plotted the spiral on a large piece of paper to make a pattern for the cutting of the metal sheet to make up the two sides of the creatures shell. I have a small sliced REAL nautilus shell,and I placed it on the pattern and simply couldn't find where it mated up...This was rather vexing I can tell you. I'd heard pretty much since I began my studies in Sacred Geometry through the popular literature that the nautilus shell was the QUINTESSENTIAL example of the Fibonacci spiral,but when it came time to accomplish this construction the spiral DID NOT MATCH THE PHI SPIRAL.
Here's a link to a short paper published by the British mathematician John Sharp explaining why...
www.emis.de/journals/NNJ...4n1-pt04.html

It turns out the Chambered Nautilus shell DOES NOT represent the Fibonacci Spiral but rather a logarithmic spiral based on 3. In the article above there is a comparison of the two spirals showing clearly that they are NOT congruent.
I think the fact that there is so much popular literature stating that the Nautilus represents the Fibonacci spiral or the Golden Spiral is simply a case of so many people accepting what is written without actually questioning it. And if there is a certain number of people who accept it as truth,it no longer bears the scrutiny of inquisitive minds. Had I not built an actual sculpture of this fantastic and wonderful form,I never would have questioned it myself. But when I completed the first Nautilus(based on the Fibonacci Spiral),it was so obviously distorted I knew something was wrong...So this one you see here is my second attempt and actually conforms to the REAL spiral evident in the Chambered Nautilus shell.
Technique:
As with the first one, I made a paper pattern(this time off a real nautilus shell),overlaid it on two pre-formed bowl shapes in stainless steel.
after cutting the mirror image spirals with my plasma cutter,I formed a tapering strip that connects the two sides and is welded all the way round the form,ground and polished. The stand is made from mild steel and I turned OFF the shielding gas on my wire feed welder in order to encrust and carbeurize the surface.Turning off the shielding gas allows oxygen to combine in the weldment. the steel literally burns and the weldment becomes quite porous. I then used a spray bottle of copper sulfate in solution,spraying it on the work as I heated areas with the torch and sort of burned it in. I was trying to get an effect as if it had been beneath the sea for a very long time and had only recently been retrieved...
I would like to stress at this point that the fact that the Nautilus Pompilius does not conform to the Fibonacci Spiral does not in any way reduce our fascination or admiration with such an exquisite form. To my eye nearly ALL logarithmic spirals are gorgeous,remind one of Nature ,and as such are Sacred.
Sacred Geometry is about a PATTERN in the known Universe of structure and proportion. It is NOT about obsessive adherence to arcane laws that counter critical OBSERVATION and REASON.
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Comments: 96

ou8nrtist2 In reply to ??? [2010-02-28 03:15:06 +0000 UTC]

Somehow ,I knew that.
Me,I'm as much Cherokee as I am Irish so I get brown as a berry in the summertime...

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lava-tomato [2010-02-27 02:08:26 +0000 UTC]

donald duck lied to me about the nautilus? D:
thanks for sharing. now I know.

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to lava-tomato [2010-02-27 02:17:39 +0000 UTC]

Can't trust that little bugger...

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PalomaDyz [2010-02-26 02:31:30 +0000 UTC]

This is amazing!
Simply amazing!

I would work great as a baby cart, too. (I think it's called a baby cart... [link] ).

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to PalomaDyz [2010-02-26 05:36:05 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Iluvenis,
One likes to amaze when one can...LOL
Yes, a baby carriage,someone suggested that.

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PalomaDyz In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-26 16:22:47 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I didn't know someone else suggested it...

Either way, this is so great!

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to PalomaDyz [2010-02-26 16:30:06 +0000 UTC]

Yes if you read further down on the comments page,one of my long time followers on DA( *opiumtraum ,who has great work as well), thought it would make a beautiful baby carriage,and I totally agree...

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PalomaDyz In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-26 16:33:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh... Great minds think alike?
If I had a baby, I would totally buy something like this

And I'll check *opiumtraum page. Thanks!

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Nicholas-Neruda In reply to ??? [2010-02-24 20:21:16 +0000 UTC]

so it doesn't match the Fibonacci spiral as 'common knowledge' dictates. one more pillar of modern intelligentsia that crumbles in the light of true workers experience.
my attraction towards the Nautilus i cannot explain, but you honor this magnificent creature greatly.

greetings

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Nicholas-Neruda [2010-02-25 05:44:40 +0000 UTC]

Greetings Nicholas,
thank you for the compliment.
There are many beautiful logarithmic spirals in Nature.
Unfortunately we have been led to believe that the Fibonacci Spiral is the only one...
I suggest a marvelous book for you which illustrates other exquisite growth spirals in Nature.
The book is::"The Power of Limits"

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TriciaS In reply to ??? [2010-02-24 08:54:44 +0000 UTC]

I love the contrast between the two..and both are so beautiful!
.....I can't believe the trouble you go to to perfect your work!...but your pieces really show your dedication !

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to TriciaS [2010-02-24 09:05:33 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Tricia,
It's so interesting how priorities change as we grow older,ah I mean more mature...LOL
My work has been a great constant in my life but there were always other things that gave me bigger thrills(sex,drugs,rock and roll etc),but these days it gives me my greatest joy...

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TriciaS In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-24 09:16:11 +0000 UTC]

Hah!!!....The joys of maturity....I understand them well

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pureshaktifire In reply to ??? [2010-02-24 07:43:19 +0000 UTC]

yo yo yo Stephan, NICE!
I'm liking the contast brother, fitting and appropo, coral like base and smooooooth shiny shell creature.
I have a great book on what you reference, whenever I look at it I transcend.... I find spirals to be mesmerizing. I find my life presents itself in spirals....ascending or descending, dependent upon me...

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to pureshaktifire [2010-02-24 08:46:31 +0000 UTC]

Sounds like a great book.What's the title?

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pureshaktifire In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-24 16:19:27 +0000 UTC]

It is
Divine Proportion: Phi In Art, Nature, and Science by P Hemenway. She weaves many aspects of proportion together, I never tire of it. Wonderful for anyone who is visual, particularly so for your project...if only to broaden your contemplations of the more subtle movements within....

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to pureshaktifire [2010-02-24 18:06:20 +0000 UTC]

Gee,
That's one I don't have in my collection.
Thanks for the "heads up".

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pureshaktifire In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-25 04:05:16 +0000 UTC]

welcome, I think you'll enjoy it.

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cheekymonkeyali In reply to ??? [2010-02-23 15:50:58 +0000 UTC]

beautiful. Interesting stuff about the math too

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to cheekymonkeyali [2010-02-23 20:25:02 +0000 UTC]

Thank you,
I like the wild west ambiance of the internet and the fact that it's not too regulated yet,but the downside is there is SOOO much misinformation it's hard to sort through the junk...
This simple example of the claim that the chambered nautilus shell represents the Fibonacci Spiral is why we should question everything and do our own rational testing when possible...

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cheekymonkeyali In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-23 21:42:05 +0000 UTC]

it's something you hear about the internet a lot, but in reality there is a lot of nonsense written in books too. I expect that misinformation is repeated in print plenty.

In some ways the freedom of the internet also offers a chance of finding the right answer, even on deviantart

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to cheekymonkeyali [2010-02-23 23:14:50 +0000 UTC]

I agree...

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spiriferous In reply to ??? [2010-02-23 05:04:20 +0000 UTC]

that stand is freaking awesome.


the real question is, if you cut a cross section of the shell, does it have the same structure as a real shell would? it's gorgeous either way.

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to spiriferous [2010-02-23 05:51:59 +0000 UTC]

I didn't build the separate chambers into this piece ,but I might do a cross section wall piece in the future.
The stand is part of a pair of candelabra I made when the titanic was discovered.They were sitting around the house and one night I just put the Nautilus on it and it seemed to fit...

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Zircon-Eneas In reply to ??? [2010-02-23 03:13:16 +0000 UTC]

The best organic styled works are the ones that don't look shaped by human hands, and thats exactly what you've achieved here. Excellent work, a true demonstration of skill.

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Zircon-Eneas [2010-02-23 03:44:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you Veronica.

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Feybles In reply to ??? [2010-02-23 02:19:25 +0000 UTC]

This has turned out amazingly! You achieved exactly what you were after with the stand... it looks as though it has spent hundreds of years on the bottom of the sea.

Personally, I am less bothered by the various mathematical practices that are present and more enamored of the natural design and production itself. Reguardless of how it actually applies to any theory, practice or logarithum.

The world creates amazing things...

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Feybles [2010-02-23 02:51:57 +0000 UTC]

Ditto...

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opiumtraum [2010-02-22 23:04:56 +0000 UTC]

gorgeous! I looked at the thumbnail too quickly...it's an amazing sculpture, but my first thought was what a cool (baby) carriage...

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to opiumtraum [2010-02-23 00:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Wow,
You're right...

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DonSimpson [2010-02-22 22:12:03 +0000 UTC]

Your ability to make awesomely beautiful objects out of large chunks of recalcitrant materials continues to amaze me.

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to DonSimpson [2010-02-23 00:35:22 +0000 UTC]

Hah!
And your ability to improve on Nature amazes me...

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Marcusstratus In reply to ??? [2010-02-22 20:53:34 +0000 UTC]

wow, this is one of my favorite sculptures of yours yet I'm quite fond of the nautilus sea creatures and this shell is very well done

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Marcusstratus [2010-02-23 00:35:51 +0000 UTC]

Thank you.

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razzigyrl In reply to ??? [2010-02-22 20:36:34 +0000 UTC]

Troublesome though it may have been, this is a lovely work (I especially like the stand, for some reason). It's sort of funny to me which assumptions folks consider the truth, just because that's what everyone always said. But, it seems to me it's better to prove to yourself whether or not the assumptions are truth or not, because I've found that relying on someone else's measurements can get you in trouble.

Beautiful metal work, and as always accompanied by interesting thoughts! Your stuff always brightens my day.

!yoJ

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to razzigyrl [2010-02-22 20:40:53 +0000 UTC]

thank you gyrl...

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razzigyrl In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-22 20:54:27 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, I know I'm a bit of a spaz. I can't help it around shiny objects.

!yoJ

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to razzigyrl [2010-02-23 00:37:02 +0000 UTC]

No worries,
I have a touch of that disease as well...

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Hellstryce In reply to ??? [2010-02-22 20:34:42 +0000 UTC]

I still absolutely adore your work.

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Feybles In reply to Hellstryce [2010-02-23 02:18:04 +0000 UTC]

You're not the only one! There are plenty of addicts among us for this man's work. *chuckle*

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Hellstryce [2010-02-22 20:41:49 +0000 UTC]

You know,there's counseling for that now...LOL

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spiralman In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2011-04-25 21:48:22 +0000 UTC]

Hey there, I took a metal-smithing course in school, and I have a couple of questions for you. Im new to the forum... how can I contact you to ask a question? Thanks my email is lrbuntyn@hotmail.com

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Feybles In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-23 02:18:28 +0000 UTC]

Whoo! *wipes brow* That's a relief to hear! *wink*

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Hellstryce In reply to ou8nrtist2 [2010-02-22 21:49:05 +0000 UTC]

Ah, a sculptor AND a comedian. Nice.

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ou8nrtist2 In reply to Hellstryce [2010-02-23 00:36:25 +0000 UTC]

One confuses when one can...

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