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painttoolsy In reply to StarstruckByATruck [2019-10-03 01:43:30 +0000 UTC]

If you identify as a different gender ur not cis but keep trying to tell me that it's alright to harass people over their identities just because you think it's stupid just go off I guess.

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StarstruckByATruck In reply to painttoolsy [2019-10-03 02:59:26 +0000 UTC]

I'm not trying to harass anyone. I'm just saying that if your gender identity shouldn't be debated, then what about cis people who do identify as genders like those above? Most of the people who go by demigirl/autigender/moomingender tend to be either cis and just using the labels as pretty aesthetics or trans people who genuinely believe those to be real... which are not.

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painttoolsy In reply to StarstruckByATruck [2019-10-04 04:52:03 +0000 UTC]

listen i'm not going to argue with you, you're just here to put people down because you don't like or agree with their identity especially since I've legit never seen anyone use those labels besides demi girl which is legit just a specific label in the whole realm of nonbinary. Maybe you need to realize that the world isn't as black and white as cis/fakers and trans people, and that each person has diferent experiences and maybe they are finding out what identity suits them. It's a real dick move to just tell someone you think their identity is fake and stupid, just because you don't understand it. Especially since a lot of people only use those type of more "silly" labels at a young age (seriously tho demigirl/boy has been around for years it's literally just a specific label for some nb people two lean slightly towards a gender without being it. like legit adults identify with that it's been around for a while.). I've only seen teens call themselves stuff like bunny gender and you know what I say to that? who gives a shit. It's a teen just trying to explore themselves and if they want me to call them 'bunself' you know what? I'd do it or maybe ask if it's okay if i use they/them instead. Because support at a young age is what a teen needs, I've been in a position where my identities, identities that you and anyone who feels the need to gatekeep this community call "valid", were questioned and mocked. That really does a number on your mental health, and seeing how much shit these kids get from people like you, who feel the need to just mock them, call them cis, or say they're only used as an aesthetic, it makes me SCARED for these kids online. people are ruthless. I was mocked and told my nb identity, a simple they/them most trans people would consider "valid", was stupid and fake. These are kids exploring themselves, exploring who they are. I'm proud that some kid online put bun/bunself in their pronoun page, because knowing how nasty people online are, it's brave to stand up for yourself and say "this is who I am. right here, right now."

Their identities will likely change, and that's okay. If a kid finds out they weren't trans at all, i'm proud they were able to explore themselves at all. It's so important that we have a space where people can explore themselves and find out who they are. Calling them cis or trenders or anything like that just chases away people. People who were doing no harm.
and before you give me that "gives a bad name to the trans community" bullshit, here's a question for you. What do you gain by blaming your fellow trans siblings for being hated by cis people? Trans people can do everything right, and do everything wrong, but people would rather attack teens exploring themselves, rather than find the route cause of transphobia being ignorance. 

So here's my final stance before I block you as I have heard every argument under the sun from people who think like you. What do you gain by attacking people being themselves and other trans people? nothing. you gain nothing. Because at the end of the day, someone who is transphobic doesn't care if you go by he/him, she/her, they/them, xe/xir, or bun/bunself. They'll hate you no matter what. So why don't you protect your trans siblings, even if in the end they find out they are cis, because every person deserves the right to be themselves. And when you attack the community, try to gatekeep it, all you do is hurt trans people and ignore the lessons learnt over time.
I have never used neopronouns, never identified as an odd gender, but if someone was bullying someone over some fake set of rules made to attack nb people, you sure as fuck better believe I will protect them. This stamp was about me, i use an odd label now. If i say the term "non-binary lesbian" I basically have to pull up a powerpoint with at least 40 slides on lesbian history and why the label is in fact a real and valid thing. That is what this stamp is about. Me having to write an essay like this to defend myself. But you know what? you can't bully or debate someone out of who they are. You can't change who I am or how I feel.

When you try to debate identities you don't like, all you do is push someone away from the resources they need and the support they deserve. No amount of starting debates or faving stamps that say "autigender doesn't exist!" is gonna change that. All you do is push people away.

So I ask you to reconsider, either think about why you believe this way and reevaluate your position, or shut the fuck up and keep your popular ass, cold ass tea, stupid ass opinions to yourself.

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painttoolsy In reply to matthew-lane [2019-03-08 02:43:15 +0000 UTC]

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