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RELATED VIDEO:Max Igan on Over Population
Food: theres lots of it
Overpopulation: the making of a myth
7 Billion People: Everybody Relax
Urbanization: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad City
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Hahahaha fair point. Kind of like how one bullet to the head or 30 bullets to the head, doesn't make a person more or less dead. They are dead regardless of the number of bullets.
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It's not about how much more land is left, it's about many resources are left.
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In an irresponsible society that mismanages resources, any amount of population is too much. The problem isn't a lack of resources, the problem is we're wasteful, polluting, we hardly recycle at all and honestly -- I could rant literally for hours on the specific exact details of how NEEDLESSLY abusive our society is to this planet. If all of the stuff we throw away were to be recycled (which is more than possible) the resource issue wouldn't be one. Plus, if we made things to last instead of making money by creating garbage, it would also help with resource issues.
Plus, there are so many things we are doing that could be done in better non-wasteful ways. I mean, seriously.
We are grossly negligent and we're taught its normal and unavoidable and just the way its always been and always has to be, and that is PROVABLY a load of BS designed to keep us locked into a consumerism attitude rather than being responsible stewards of this Earth.
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By my estimate, with current tech, the earth could support at least 20 billion people and still have room for nature.
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I agree. People base their ideas of "sustainability" on a model that abuses the Earth. As if abuse of the Earth is "supposed to be normal" and that this is what we should base sustainability models on. That would be like saying we should base how many kitchen knives a house hold should have on the assumption that everyone is a serial killer. Its just neurotic and makes no sense.
People also forget that nature and human technology can integrate perfectly fine when we do not rage against nature and do not abuse it. I have built a pond in my basement and the whole over population myth would be like someone telling me "you can't have a pond in your basement because if that was possible to sustain, then ponds would be naturally popping up in peoples basements without the need for human intervention" lol
Its just silly what people base their figures on. Its like a drug addict claiming that cocaine is a requirement for the stable perpetuation of human life. Our figures are based on our addiction to destructive and abusive habits that we've gotten comfortable with. So instead of saying "hey, we might wanna take response ability and stop being destructive dicks" we say "oh noes phear over population!!!".
Another myth is global warming. Is there climate change? Of course. There always has been and there always will be. Can humans take existing cycles and interfere and muck things up a little? Yes, of course. The way we damage ecosystems is very real and we should stop doing it. Wanna reduce CO2? How about we stop clear cutting the forests and start making wood, paper, etc products out of things such as hemp? You can even make paper out of elephant shit! I'm not even kidding! Poo Poo Paper: www.youtube.com/results?search…
And don't even get me started on the fake energy crisis bullshit. There are so many cheap ways to create clean renewable energy its not even funny. Also, so-called fossil fuels have been proven to be nothing of the sort. Oil is the fluid between the crust and the mantle and theres plenty of it. They don't wanna tell you about dry oil wells being magically refilled all by themselves after a few decades. This is because this lubricant seeps up to the surface through cracks because the crust pushing against the mantle creates a lot of pressure. I don't think we should keep using oil and natural gas as fuel sources, but the idea of there being a finite supply of oil is ridiculous. If it was even possible to use it all, there would no longer be a protective barrier between the mantle and the crust and it would render the entire surface of the Earth to be molten and uninhabitable.
Then theres the misunderstanding about nuclear power. Nuclear energy is merely just the worlds most expensive steam engine. Thats all it is. We don't need it. If you drill down far enough (and yes, we have the technology) there is heat beneath your feet. Geothermal energy. Does the same thing as a nuclear power plant, but without the destructive waste products.
The reason many people rage against new data isn't because there isn't plenty of evidence, its because people don't want to look at it because they've been taught to be afraid of change. Even positive change. Because many of the things we like and are addicted to, are destructive. We don't need oil, we're addicted to it. Its an industry. People are afraid of losing money. Afraid of economic collapse. When really, the only people this addiction truly benefits, are the top 1% rich. The rest of us get bent over and fucked.
People say "well if we could switch to other fuel sources and ways of doing things, what about the millions of jobs that would be lost when you destroy those industries?". People forget that there would be exponentially more new jobs created by the new industries than ever existed with the old ones. Plus, people forget that moving from one thing to another requires transition over time. Its not as if the oil industry will end in less than 5 seconds with the new ones immediately replacing them, making for a sudden catastrophe of millions of people out of work.
The new industries would be expanding faster than the old ones would be shrinking, making it so that there are always PLENTY of new jobs. Then people might say "well the people in the older industries were only trained for those older ones and not the newer ones! they wouldn't be able to get the new jobs!" ... this too is a load of shit. Thats like saying "I was only trained to drive a Ford, how will I ever learn to drive a Honda?" ... thats just stupid.
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Sure that's how you think you feel about argument, but I guarantee you that if I plopped you into Afghanistan where rape victims and homosexuals have acid thrown in their faces, non Muslims are executed, and the law enforcement basically consists of thought police, you would NOT be telling the people there "believe as you wish."
But the post itself is a very good point that everyone should read.
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Human population is actually going to peak sometime between 2050 and 2055 . Yeah so relax all of you. Still a lot of governments would still implement population control. Maybe a lot of African governments would implement China-style laws to rein in pop growth, but then again it's happening over there and not in the West. What they do is no concern of ours, what's more important is what's happening on the homefront. The homefront is where we should focus our resources and concerns not over some far off country or continent.
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Do you think that Jesus only cared about the people in his home country?
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How does this topic relate to Jesus or any other friggin religion? Maybe to you but it doesn't. Your reply is as asinine as it is irrelevant.
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Agreed, except for the last part. All governments are run by international corporations. We're a global community now, whether we like it or not. So focusing only on the home front is like looking at your feet while walking on the rail road tracks. Keep walking that and the inevitable end result ... well, you won't know what hit you.
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I'm not saying that you're wrong, but there do exist places on this Earth that can't really sustain human life, you try to farm in the desert or north pole etc.
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That would be true perhaps if it was the mid 20th Century, but in the early 21st we have a lot more technology and understanding now. Using permaculture, you can turn a desert into farmland. Using the technological equivalent of a terrarium, you can have artificial ecosystems underground and elsewhere. Farming can be done vertically instead of horizontally, as well as hydroponically.
Lots of cool stuff going on, wish more people were interested enough to want to take a look at it.
The only thing keeping us from fully utilizing these things is bureaucracy and greed. War is more lucrative. This is why we pump hundreds of trillions (not an exaggerated figure) into war, while people die of hunger and it can be completely avoided.
So like the deviation says -- mismanagement of resources. We're a self-destructive society, until we decide to change. But once we do decide -- it'll be amazing. Lots of things are possible right now. We're simply just not doing them. The technologies are invented, theres just no funding because we'd rather spend the money on killing each other.
Hope that clears things up for ya.
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Its not just a matter of living space, but also a matter of farming. How much land does each human need in order to be fed? We actually need quite a lot of space when considering growth rates of crops, and free range cattle.
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Indeed. Think 3D instead of 2D. The answers hide in plain sight. Don't disregard the vertical, nor the technological. 
It also never dawns on people that food grew wild and abundantly just fine before humans were ever even here to invent farms. Did you know that you are probably surrounded by food right now and don't even know it? Do a search for a book called "Free Food and Medicine". I happen to have bought a copy of it. Its a very nice book and quite revealing. The knowledge in there can mean the difference between life and death.
The idea that humans need farms as the absolute and only means of growing food, is just as much of brain washing as stating that white people are superior and blacks are just dumb niggers. Its extremely limiting and its a destructive blind belief system.
School does not teach us to think critically. It teaches us to blindly accept whatever data about reality we are spoon fed and to reject anything outside the box of that indoctrination. And thats a hard piece of data for an insecure human ego living in a rough world, to swallow. Most people are just doing their best to survive the next day without going completely insane under the pressure. Doesn't leave much energy left for critical thinking and discernment.
Thats why school judges you based on how much you've failed, not by how much you've passed. And it punishes you for not fitting into a box you don't fit into, instead of encouraging you to discover what you are good at and encouraging you to move in that direction and become great at it. Its why we are taught to take "standardized tests" rather than how to think or be creative. Why school is all about piling on the homework and stressing the mind and body with overloading pressure. Why the coming of summer feels more like the end of a painful constipated shit.
We live in a world where the many allow the few to run things for us, like baby sitters. And these duly elected asshats are the least and most idiotic among us. And when both political parties are two wings of the same corporate bird, and corporate agenda creates policy for science, education and pretty much every aspect of our lives -- then what makes us think we've been taught how to think at all, much less clearly or rationally? We've been indoctrinated and taught to defend that indoctrination. Thats why even in the scientific communities, the so-called professionals bicker and bitch and tantrum like toddlers, knife each other in the back and ruin each others careers in the pursuit of climbing the corporate ladder.
Things don't HAVE to do be this way, but for the moment, they are this way. And yes, theres much we all can do about it. But not for as long as we buy into the lie of "poor little me, i'm nobody and can do nothing". We'd all be surprised by how much we all can do, and ironically, how little effort much of it takes. And when done en mass, is quite amazing.
Human beings have limitless potential, but have been tricked into believing otherwise. Question everything you think you know, if you don't want to live a mediocre life. Adventure awaits, for those brave enough to question everything.
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I agree with this, but estimations are that humans are going to hit 10 billion by 2050.
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There is still plenty of room, and they also don't like to tell us that populations climax and then go back down again. They just like to scare us with half-truths. Think about for example, how many baby boomers there are alive right now. They are within their retirement years. So they are on their way out.
Right now there are less children being born than there are people dying. This is understandable due to the state of the world at present. When one decides to take a close investigation as to how many people are dying and why they are dying, it puts things more into perspective.
Even if hypothetically, there was no war and medical technology was allowed to evolve to eliminate the things which plague us -- and lets just for the sake of argument make this hypothetical a bit extreme and say the disease we know as cellular ageing ends up cured -- not only is there a lot more room than we think there is, especially if we think outside the box -- but theres also a very big solar system and an even larger Universe.
Solar System Colonization is only held up by our own bureaucracy and stupidity. But lets say that was eliminated, now the question becomes "what about the time it will take to develop these new technologies?" ... well, the time it takes to develop them is ironically less than the time it would take for population expansion. Because technological development is exponential. How far we've come in the last 100 years is a testament to that.
The only real danger we face, is our own collective apathy. That will inevitably annihilate us regardless of if the population were 7 billion, or 7 million. If we do not straighten out our attitudes, we are headed for annihilation within our own lifetime, no matter what.
So the only thing we can do is be the best people we can be, and live our lives the best we can live them, as to set an example template for how life can be lived, and just hope that trend catches on quickly enough to undo the damage already being done. Because if it doesn't, we're fucked anyways. But if we're fucked anyways, then we may as well at least enjoy the time we have left, by being the best person we can be.
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Wow. I never saw it like that.
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Well, we're not taught to think outside of the box. School and the main stream media and society at large uses fear tactics to force us to conform to a narrow view of reality, to cripple our abilities for critical thinking and discernment, so that we end up dysfunctionally co-dependent upon anyone who walks up and claims authority over us. We live in a slavery system as I'm sure you've noticed. A prison without walls or bars.
Though I do not mean this in a negative or pessimistic way. Quite the opposite. Humanity is waking up from a centuries-long sleep. Conversations such as this would not be possible otherwise. Its an amazing time to be alive. A world of limitless potential, for better or worse. Which of those we choose is up to us, of course. But we can enjoy the adventure and live the journey, or we can feel sorry for ourselves. The last option there doesn't seem like much fun though, and one of the most important things in life, is fun!
Don't be tricked into suppressing your creativity, imagination, intuition and intelligence. Society will try its best to keep you down. Don't let it!
We live in a challenging period in history. But that doesn't have to be a bad thing!
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Damn, that's epic for DA.
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Oh, and you're welcome for the watch
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Well, if you liked that, then you'll really enjoy this .
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We can have all the tech and benefical sci and products that we want.We can be fanatically dogmatic about using religious or "rationalistic" fundamentalism as much as we want.In the end there are many ways including one that doesn't ignore reality and is empathetic to us all with it's compassion,human rights with freedom for all.
We'll all need a mass restructuing of lifestyle soon not neccesarily ideology.I'm sorta scared that we'll have to go thru a period of gruesome bloodshed done for the sake of consumption both for leisures and neccesities.I wish I could just jump straight to that period instead of having to age thru it and hold on until we get it thru our thick heads to put aside destructive notions and their accesories subtle and tell-tale instead of having to bear observation to the turmoil that'll likely happen than the joy we could reach sooner.
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I did the math once, as I recall, there is about 1/4 acre of arable land for every human being on the planet, yet there is an abundance of food. We just need a better distribution of land.
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Its just mismanagement and incompetence, and its on purpose. A slavery system requires lack and scarcity to keep control over its slaves.
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Exactly. It's easy to turn many land types into arable land, or at least productive land. Just have to get people to spread out more.
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There maybe enough land on this planet but food and resources is the main thing.
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Exactly my point. Mismanagement of resources is the problem. There is more than enough food and resources. But when we as a civilization act like morons, its the equivalent of there being no food and no resources. It does not matter how abundant things are if we are unable to use that abundance. Its like being stranded in the middle of the desert surrounded by mountains of canned food, but having no can opener. You will die of starvation, surrounded by food.
But I'll issue my usual disclaimer on my intentions with these sorts of subjects
I would like to show like-minded people who already agree with me, that they are not powerless and to be the change they wish to create and to not lose hope. I am not here to convince the unconvinced. I am here to empower those who are already on the same page. Cuz its time to do less talking and more DOING.
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I agree on conservation and recycling but the math would simply not add up food can only be produced in certain climates. A majority of the earth is unsuitable for mass food production. At the rate the population is growing we wont be able to feed everybody. We can now but not down the road, watch the Star Trek episode trouble with tribbles, it sums up what I am saying. But I do agree that modern society is reckless and wasteful as well as self centered towards it's desires of self satisfaction. We do have more than enough room on this planet but how much of it is habitable for humans on a mass scale. I certainly would not find much happiness in owning one acre of Siberia or the Sahara.
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By the way, you might also find this to be extremely useful: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go44px…
This is a video by max igan and he makes my point a lot better than i can make it.
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With all due respect, unfortunately you are missing some data which is allowing the results of your assessments to be incomplete. You are also largely going on myths which society likes ti present as facts, because they know that no one wants to take the time to dig deeper because quite frankly, that does take a lot of time and dedication. And people either do not want to take the time, or literally do not have the time.
This is why I said before that I have no desire to convince anyone of anything. Because even though I have evidence to back myself, it is equal to my having absolutely no evidence what so ever, because it would require 01) the other person to have both the time and desire to wade through the mountains of data and 02) humans have their minds made up in advance and will defend their own paradigms in opposition to truth, even if they have genuinely convinced themselves that they are on the side of truth.
We are all infected with the egoic disease which has us automatically defending myths and forsaking objectivity. So ironically, the only way to even begin to learn how to be objective, is to be able to be strong enough to admit that even for as enlightened as we presume ourselves to be, that yes we too are equally as infected with the disease of complacency as even the most blind and asleep sheep.
But ego takes offence to that idea, and so the truther and activists good intentions pave the road to hell.
The hard truth right now is, that most of us must learn and wake up the hard way. We will only see how easy things are, once hind sight can show us enough about how easy things could have been but were not, and only due to our own unwillingness to let go of belief systems that we already know are lies fed to us by a system we already hate and do not trust and we know full well that it is all full of lies -- yet we continue to trust it anyways. and yes, we absolutely do.
We are trained to trust it and you can't just snap your fingers and decide to be free of that programming. It runs deep like the roots of a redwood tree.
So yes, even those of us who say "wake up world!" and talk about the Illuminati and all of that -- we still defend and protect the system we are rebelling against, and this is the truth our ego does not want to face.
So with all due respect, you are in your reply protecting the system, without fully knowing you are doing it. that is not your fault, society was designed that way. we were born into this society. we were born into this prison. we didn't design it.
Here are some videos on food and over population and all that which another user here shared with me. I like these videos and they make my points even more breifly than i am capable of doing. Each of them is very short. Unfortunately, for those who have beleif systems which already have their minds made up to be against this -- it will be very easy for those people to convice themselves that these videos are shit, and the research that would be required to prove those videos to be correct, is not going to get done by those people. and why would it? no one throws their support behind something they hate or dislike or think is bullshit. so why would someone want to take the time to do the research to prove something right, that they have already judged as total bunk? that would be like helping your enemy win a battle against you. lol ... no one is going to do that. and thats why the mind prison works. because those brave enough to do that begin to see that the battles and wars are all fictional delusions to begin with. we've been tricked into making them real. like if we were tricked into thinking we always had to touch fire and always burn ourselves and taught that you can't avoid it. maybe teaching people that they will burn in hell for all eternity if they stop, or whatever. it is very easy to make little kids beleive anything what so ever, and we were all little kids at once time. so we were brain washed and now we defend that programming. thats the truth of it.
truth is colored by perspective.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QWAXW…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iodJ0O…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZVOU5…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXrN9H…
If a fundamentalist christian would not abandon their beliefs because of scientific evidence presented to them which might logically disprove some of their points, then why would any evidence of anything, ever be proof of anything, to anyone, ever, in any case? We all all humans, not robots. We believe what we want, all evidence be damned. We see the world as we are, not as it is. No evidence will ever be good enough to ever prove anything to anyone about anything. And this is one of the truths our egos want to reject.
For everything which exists that can be discussed, there is evidence in favor of it and evidence against it. There are people who believe in all of it and those people battle each other. Neither side can change the minds of the other. It is hopeless because neither side is capable of objectivity.
Truth is colored by perspective. All truths are true. Believing is seeing. and all actions have consequences. This is why no good deed goes unpunished and the road to hell is paved with good intentions. But heres an irony: i don't even mean that in a bad or negative way. Consequence is not a dirty word and all circumstances are inherently neutral. If we have a mindset of burden, then we will see the world in terms of nothing but burden, our actions will all be based on that belief system and the consequences will have us suffer. But if we see things in a mindset of opportunity, then we will see the world in terms of opportunity, our actions will be based on that belief system and the consequences will have us evolve and advance into productivity and wisdom.
So yes, everything you said is correct for those who proceed with a mindset of burden and your response will seem prophetic. But there is data which a mindset of burden does not and can not have access to. So yes, we're doomed, damned and screwed as you said. But only if we remain in the mindset of that. Because that mindset totally blocks data access to solutions because the data is perceived as nonsense, offensive, delusional and unreal.
And this can not be helped. There is no remedy for it. If a person is unwilling to explore new and different mindsets then yes, they are indeed screwed and that will be their fate. So within that mindset you are completely correct. But outside of that mindset, you are completely incorrect. And you do reserve the right to think, feel and beleive as you wish to. and this is a right everyone has and i respect it. and yes, even to a persons peril if that is how they wish to proceed. i have no right to claim that they can not.
I hope all of that made sense. I will understand completely if it all comes across as just a bunch of bunk.
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People who refuse to see things for what they are are ignorant. Truth, making somebody see reality is a different animal, trust me I know the feeling. Some people hold on to things when the information around them disproves what they are saying. I have had a Paradigm shift in this subject matter. I have posted the videos above on my page for others who wish to see them or stumble upon them.
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We're all on this journey together
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I've just gotten to the point where I realize that trying to convince anyone of anything is a waste of time. We can only be who we are, respect eachothers rights to that equally, and work together with like minds right under the noses of the Elites to make this world incompatible with their bullshit. The good thing about sheep is, that they follow. So any precedents we set at the main stream level, will be automatically followed by everyone else as a trend. So lets make things like integrity, respect, being genuine, equality, cooperation, community and things of that nature the new standard on this planet. Its already happening and its happening a little bit at a time. Growth rates in awareness are exponential, but -- hidden in plain sight until they climax. So there is an illusion of slowness and idleness, even though expansion of consciousness is spreading like a viral epidemic.
But thats good. Let the Elites think nothing is happening. It'll be funny to see the looks on their faces once they finally notice that they're fucked
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They are fucked my friend they messed with America and there will be a revolution/ civil war The NWO will die ! Humanity will reach the stars.
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What you still don't understand my friend, is that what you just said is exactly what they want, because it will result in the opposite.
Ideas like "fighting for peace" are insane. War begets only more war. It has never done anything else and never will do anything else. War only creates mutual death and destruction. Todays revolutionaries are always tomorrows dictators because both sides are puppeted by the elites, always!
War is how they win against us. WE are FUCKED.
Unless of course, we make a world incompatible with war.
Which as I said, is easy to do. But impossible if we refuse to move beyond our ego.
Your ego wants to fight and rage like a toddler having a tantrum. I understand that. Mine does too. But I understand that it does, because thats how I was fucking programmed. Because we are all SHEEP. We can not become well if we are in denial of the disease.
War is a racket. A scam. I can prove this, too: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBu…
Its like the old line from the movie about not being able to handle the truth. We can't because we are addicted to the LIES. We are taught the LIES that we have to fight and bicker and bitch and struggle and bleed and suffer in order to gain peace and security and happiness and progress. The very notion at its basic level is FUCKED. Everything in reality is governed by MATH because we are not above the laws of how the universe works.
We have been taught the LIES that if subtraction and division exist, then addiction and multiplication are a myth.
We are addicts and misery is our drug.
We are all fucking ADDICTS.
Its all one coin.
There is NO ONE driving the ship of state.
It is on a collision course with disaster unless someone grabs the fucking wheel.
The Elites are caught in the same mind prison they have setup for us.
Call it poetic justice, if you wish to.
They are infected with the same virus. The same blindness. The same arrogance.
"The beautiful thing about the totalitarian state, is that it forces those who fear it, to emulate it" -Adolph Hitler
This is what the so-called truthers don't want to face. That they too have the exact same attitude and thinking as the elites. why do you think truthers always fight with each other? lol
Because they are just as arrogant and full of shit as the elites and why wouldn't they be? They were born into this prison. We all were. We were all born into this matrix of misery. They are us and we are them. We think like they do. We have the same dysfunctions as they do. We are all sick with the same disease. the same addictions. and just like a heroine addict we will sew the seeds of our own destruction if we do not wake the fuck up.
We are NOT awake. We are HALF-AWAKE.
And if we don't wake up all the way, both we and the elites are MUTUALLY FUCKED.
This whole planet, FUCKED.
But there is good news...
There has been enough of a shift in enough people that both the Earth and humanity as a whole will be spared this.
But anyone who remains caught in the mind prison will perish, the same as the heroine addict.
Leaving the only people alive, being those who were able to rehab themselves and not delude themselves.
This is why there is so much death and chaos right now.
So is it the end of humanity and Earth? No, i think we have made it into the safe zone to avoid that. But might it be the end of most of the population, INCLUDING the Elites? Yes, pending a miracle -- and we may very well see that miracle. As the awakening process is viral. We might just make it. But I can't say for an absolute fact that the majority will make it through this alive. I can only say that the Elites are fucked, their mind prison system is fucked and anyone aligned with it is fucked. Whether thats a truther or a bankster scumbag, equally fucked.
and this is yet more information that the ego does not want to hear, because its painful. It will want to hold onto the idea that fighting a bloody war is the only way to win peace. as it forgets that this is the thinking of the elites. This is the sacred cow of the elites. order out of chaos. and we the people, have been taught to worship that same false god. we scream revolution. they scream fuck the peasents, depopulate the planet. but its the same false god being worshiped. the same blood lust. the same dysfunction. and both sides of that same dysfunction will perish. just by default. for the same reason that a heroine addict who refuses help, is fucked.
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Very well done videos, why have I not caught that. Of course the New World Order would incite that population is a problem, in a effort to make mass genocide a reality. When really all it would do is consume the world in another war. Very inciteful, you have a point of how thought and belief is a paradox, truth can only be justified by facts not personal opinions.
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You most surely are getting closer and closer all the time, congrats
Now I'm going to challenge you further because I am going to say something that in the societal context sounds nuts, but if we can calm down and see things more objectively, it begins to make sense.
All truths are true, all realities are real. We get to choose what is or is not real for ourselves, and we have no right to choose it for others.
So there literally is no difference between opinions and facts, because everything is choice.
So if we choose to destroy ourselves, that is real.
If we choose to make things better for ourselves, this also is equally real.
This whole idea of Universal Truth is a part of the totalitarian trap. EVERYTHING is opinion. Even science admits that gravity is an opinion. lol ... all science does is observe things from the perspective of the observer and then does its best to describe what it is observing. What science does, is like saying that by observing leaves being blown around, that the leaves are blowing themselves around and that wind is a myth or a delusion.
As humans we can not help but perceive 5 sense reality through our own beleif systems. We do not ever, not ever ever ever, we absolutely do not see the world "as it is". We always, and forever, without exception -- always see the world AS WE ARE.
As Morpheus said to Neo -- what is real? If real is the 5 senses, then real is nothing more than electrical impulses being interpreted by the brain.
Even quantum physics has proven that physical reality is a holographic illusion, a focus of consciousness into experience and what we observe particle reality through our intention from the void of the wave function. And this has been proven. quantified. Lab tested.
The reason many still call this a fictional psudeo science are the ones addicted to their belief systems and who are control freaks and they think that anyone who does not agree with them is an idiot, a criminal or both. They want to force their views on others with an iron fist.
They will not look at evidence. they say that to look at it is an insult to their intelligence. but they happily spew their hypocritical bullshit onto others. and they act as if they know better than even God.
And most people act like this. We ALL have acted like this and from time to time, still do. We literally DO NOT KNOW ANY BETTER. We have all been BRAIN WASHED. But as soon as we can realize this without freaking out, then we can be like the doctor looking for the cure, instead of like someone in denial that they are sick.
If your shoe is untied, it doesn't make you weak or stupid to acknowledge it. And it is strength and wisdom to tie our shoe. but we act as if being told our shoe is untied is the biggest insult ever, and that the need to tie our shoe means we are weak and stupid.
We are all programmed to be pathological sociopaths. Once we can come to terms with this without guilt or shame, we can then begin to clear our minds and we can begin to see that we are all equals with equal potential. And that maybe it might be a good idea to start working together to create a better world. And that doing this is in fact really easy. But only if we are willing.
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We are not 5 sense beings we have many senses that are beyond our ability. We only use 10% of our brain, the other 90 % is a mystery. Scientifically speaking you are correct everything we see is a hologram.
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That is exactly my point. This is how and why we are so easily manipulated.
We have been taught the lie that the 5 senses is all there is and we have been taught to judge what is real versus what is not real, based on bullshit manipulations of this hologram. We perceive 5 sense reality based on our beleif systems. Science has already proven this. How we perceive the world literally, is based on how we have been taught we are supposed to do so. and our teachers have been the criminal mind prison system. yet even the so-called truthers fight and bicker and bitch with each other, worshiping the same false god of order out of chaos as the elites do, with the same arrogance, and neither they nor the elites realize how full of shit they are.
And we are all sick and diseased with the George W bush mentality of "either you are with me, or you are my enemy". All of the truthers seem to have that attitude and they fight with each other.
I'm just sick of it and so I am taking my own stand and it is simple. I am on the side of unity, not division. Anyone not on the side of unity, won't like me very much. Especially seeing as I continue to gain more and more courage to be more bold in my expressions of this.
I believe in human equality. I know for a fact and have seen for myself that the solutions to our problems are EASY. That struggle and suffering and difficulty is part of the invisible bars of the mind prison. And I know that I can not convince anyone to see what I have started to be able to see. To all those who can not see it, i will sound insane and i will come off as offensive. And i respect their rights to judge me as such.
I have had to come to terms with the facts that certian things are as they are, and many people will remain as they are and theres nothing I can do to convince them. I can only seek out like minds willing to collaborate and share information and perspectives and work with them to do our best to make this world a better place. Anyone I have to "convince" is not ready to work with me on anything.
I am just done with the hamster wheel of debate. Its suicide. Let us all be whoever it is we decide to be and all learn our lessons in the way we each see fit. Let is all respect each others rights to do so and let us all choose to work with like minds, because those are the only ones we are compatible with. I am done trying to hammer the square peg into the round hole, under the delusion that both are the same just because they are both painted the same color and have the same logo on them. lol
We all have the right to be who we want to choose to be. And I am fully ready to respect my own right to that, as well as everyone else's. Which is why I have gotten to the point that if anyone wants to think me to be rude, get mad at me, judge me, hate me or whatever -- it honestly and truthfully is all good by me. they reserve the right to do so. and its completely fine. and it makes it so much more clear that those are the sort of people that i don't need around me. and its a service of the universe that they don't want to be around me. making it easier for me to attract like minded people.
so its all good, really. and i feel an amazing sense of peace that i've never felt before.
so let people be who they are, its all good by me
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The elite want us to be subservient, violence is the only path they wish to take you can either go down swinging or die screaming peace. In the Bible, the book of Jeremiah 6:14 and a few others it talks of this, what you are referring to. George Washington understood "There is never a good war nor a bad peace". But war is a part of man and as I see it man will only become enlightened and beat his weapons to plow shears when God comes back, I am not a fundamentalist I am open to science and other views, a supreme creator has no limits. Science even points to a creator. But that is another topic completely. What I am saying is war is inescapable in the current condition of man. Good and evil will battle and blood will flow, you can speak truth about how man should be but humanity is to self absorbed caught up in itself, only his creator can change the being he created and call a spaid a spaid. The fight will come no matter what, the only way to beat tyranny is to play as nasty and ugly as it because it will destroy you regardless about how you feel with fighting. You are correct man is addicted to war, greed, sex, and drugs. All of which play into each other, we know this as sin. Man is consumed by sin when he born, whether good or evil. The only way to assure victory is to walk a good path, stay close to god, pray etc. The New World Order wants to divide and conquer, a tactic as old as war itself. They want to engineer this planet through violence, all they will do is stir humanity into a killing machine, they think that their money and technology makes them invincible to the bloodshed. All tyrants fall when they have stirred with humanity long enough, the main thing is to prevent another tyranny from forming as long as possible. As the United States so clearly demonstrated 237 years ago. The people must be highly educated and understand the dangers associated with tyranny and evil, we must as a people fight off tyranny from our shores once again. Call me what you wish a Bullshit filled conspiracy theorist but we need to be united on this not selfishly divided on ideals, that can resume when tyranny has been thrown out of our nation and the free world. As Thomas Jefferson said so famously said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". They will win with us bickering on how to fight them It's called divide and conquer. Your a smart individual but you must be prepared for the inevitable result of death and suffering on a mass scale. Another famous saying, want peace ? Prepare for war !
Context:
Israel's Rebellion and God's Wrath
…13 "For from the least of them even to the greatest of them, Everyone is greedy for gain, And from the prophet even to the priest Everyone deals falsely. 14 "They have healed the brokenness of My people superficially, Saying, 'Peace, peace,' But there is no peace. 15 "Were they ashamed because of the abomination they have done? They were not even ashamed at all; They did not even know how to blush. Therefore they shall fall among those who fall; At the time that I punish them, They shall be cast down," says the LORD.…
Cross References
1 Thessalonians 5:3
While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
2 Samuel 17:3
and bring all the people back to you. The death of the man you seek will mean the return of all; all the people will be unharmed."
Isaiah 30:10
They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.
Jeremiah 8:11
They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. "Peace, peace," they say, when there is no peace.
Jeremiah 14:13
But I said, "Alas, Sovereign LORD! The prophets keep telling them, 'You will not see the sword or suffer famine. Indeed, I will give you lasting peace in this place.'"
Ezekiel 13:10
"'Because they lead my people astray, saying, "Peace," when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,
Ezekiel 13:16
those prophets of Israel who prophesied to Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her when there was no peace, declares the Sovereign LORD."'
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I will again very strongly suggest you listen to this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go44px…
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Well, here is one of those moments where i risk causing offence where its not intended, but with most people its almost an inevitability. But I fully respect your right to have views which differ from mine and I mean no insult to you, but the boldness I must used to retain a full level of authenticity and honesty most surely risks inadvertent insult.
I understand where you are coming from and why you think and feel as you do, and I hold no judgement against you for it and I respect your right to view things as such. But as I said, everything is a perspective and all perspectives are valid and there is a lot more than one. If this were not true, then we wouldn't have the over 40,000 different denominations of Christianity who constantly bicker, bitch, disagree and subdivide even more. Divide and conquer is the most efficient strategy and no matter how much Godly righteousness and patriotism you want to coat this knife we stab ourselves with, it is what it is. And your response is one very familiar to me. I've heard similar things time and time again and I will give you my perspective on what empowers such a response. What fuels it.
It is the trap that Jesus warned us about when he talked of the lies and deceptions of the Pharisees and their hypocrisy and arrogance. He warned us about the manipulations of organized Religion. How it would be one of the main weapons against us for deceiving nations and pitting brother against brother. That many would hear but not understand, see but still be blind and however else that quote went, you get the idea. He warned us that the very scriptures themselves would be tampered with.
It amazes me that Christian Patriots have no problems with the fact that the Banksters that ran the niacine counsel that formed the cannon of the Bible censored the shit out of it, yet they so boldly protect the first amendment when it comes to the Internet or public speaking. The Banksters are an ancient cast of scum bags and they had their hands firmly in the creation of modern day Christianity. Christ himself warned us that this would happen. And yes, there is plenty of evidence out there and no, it is not my response ability to do your homework for you.
So again, human ego can not bare the suffering and pain of the idea that any view that they might perceive as holy and sacred, might have been tampered with. and indeed those views have been. Jesus gives us many keys to understanding these things but just as he could not get the masses to understand, I sure as hell am done trying. I surely am no "Jesus Christ" and I don't see how my luck could be any better than his. lol
No matter what a persons beliefs are, 2+2 will never equal 1. But this is the mentality we are raised with by the mind prison. So of course, anything that seems easy or positive will be deemed as nonsense and delusion by a society which is so addicted to its belief that misery is the one and only real reality. So yes though it is true that many people who are hooked into a misery addiction like to go into denial about it and use so-called "positive thinking" to cover up the mess of shit that they hide under it -- it is not universally true that all people who have positive ideas are suffering from similar delusions.
Society has removed critical thinking from all of us. And fucked over our abilities for discernment. And the only way to start getting them back, is to come to terms with the truths of this. So if you can not see it as a possibility that your views might very well be based largely on just the views of a deceived human you heard preaching his skewed perspective up on a pulpit designed to make Banksters more rich, and you will cling to your interperetation as inhereted from that person or by those people as the one and only singular interpretation of reality -- then you will make your view a self-forfilling prophecy for yourself in your own life.
Because yes, wars will be fought and are being fought and both sides are equally fucked. No justice, no righteousness and no point. Just mutually assured destruction.
Now don't get me wrong, I am not claiming we should be pussies and not defend ourselves. But few people understand the difference between self defence and perpetual warfare based on hatred and revenge. Jesus talks about these things too and Jesus is always ignored. He was ignored then and he is ignored by Christians now.
In fact I beleive his second coming is the endowment of all humans with the Christ Consciousness and we all have the choice of accepting or rejecting that esoteric connection. Because if he came back again as a physical human -- I promise you that we would reject him again and crucify him again. He would do his works and we would claim it was trickery. Especially with the technology we have these days. All the debunkers would have a field day on his ass. And when he did finally manage to prove his power, it would be claimed that it was a force of evil and needed to be destroyed in the name of God and all that is holy. Thats what we did to him last time. We would do it again, I have no doubt of it.
Though I could try to more fully explain my perspectives on this stuff and why I see your view as I do, and what my view is -- it would be pointless because I can already tell that most of the point as I perceive it in my own mind, was intercepted and filtered by your own core belief systems, and twisted into something I wouldn't even recognize. It can't help but be this way because we were all born into the mind prison. Thats how it works and that is what it does.
You have lived a very different life than me. With different experiences. And rightly so. You're a unique individual. It is as it should be. However, all of our experiences and lives have been tampered with and twisted by the mind prison we were born into. So you are literally going to see the world very differently than myself and very differently than most others, because -- we were taught to accept what we think we know as absolute truth, and reject all other perspectives as an attack on our own. and this programming runs deep into the subtle and the subconscious.
Thats why i always use the analogy of blue lens glasses. If you were wearing blue lens glasses, i could speak of color all i want. But theres nothing i could do that wouldn't be seen as blue. and if hypothetically you believed that those glasses should not come off, or even worse -- you believed that life was just blue and there were no glasses, then it would be pretty hopeless and nothing i could do or say would make any difference what so ever.
And thats just the way things are. I've had to learn to accept that and to respect that.
There are going to be those who reject anything easy or peaceful or objective as utter nonsense, because that is how the filters will translate it. And those people surely will die needlessly in a blood lust that they aren't even aware that they have. To die never understanding that they and their enemy were merely two unique expressions of the same one singular thing. Two sides of one coin. The Banksters want to kill us because they beleive there is no other way. Those who want to kill them also beleive that there is no other way. Both worship the same god of their addiction. The same false god. And there is no way to get them to see it. Because they will proclaim to be Christian or Mulslim or worship big 40 foot stone owls or whatever floats their particular religious boat -- never knowing that they are one with their enemy, the same as their enemy, from different expressions.
The Banksters are so insecure and immature that they feel that the only way to keep others from controling them, is to control everyone else around them. With that psychopathic outlook, population control (genocide) and mass deception are mandatory. And they do this through the idea of "war makes peace" or "order out of chaos". So their mind prison slaves think as they do. But without knowing it.
All bloody revolutions are controlled opposition. They are good at that. A bloody civil war or anything like that only give them the upper hand. But only temporarily because the Elites are not aware of just how linked into their own slavery system they truly are. So the end result is simple. Everyone dies, theres nobody left alive. Both sides loose.
There is plenty of data to support what I am saying but you have to find it. You have to do your own homework. I've given you some bread crumbs as it is. Some pretty damn useful ones. But if you have an addiction to your current views, then all evidence i can present would be pointless. If you are addicted to your current views, you will not want to bother wasting the time to seek out any evidence which might disprove your views. they are your sacred cows and you would not dare dishonour them. So being asked to look for evidence which would disprove anything you hold sacred, would naturally be viewed as a slap in the face and taken as insult.
As I said, I am not here to convince anyone of anything. Only to express my views as per my right, and you can take it or leave it. But I have a pretty sure feeling that this is one of those moments where you and I will need to agree to disagree. I have no desire to convince you of anything, nor be convinced of anything. So all you can really do, is either decide you are curious and research into things yourself -- or -- you can decide I'm just talking crazy talk and dismiss what I am saying as nonsense.
I respect your right to it. You have the right to view this any way you wish and I whole heartedly respect that right. Do as you feel is best for yourself, but we're just going to have to agree to disagree, as I feel no obligation to having a debate. I don't feel i need to prove anything to anyone. I merely have my right to be myself and to express as such, and respect the rights of others to do the same. I feel no obligation to have my views meet anyones approval, nor to meet anyone elses approval. Let people be who they feel they must be, its all good by me. and let the chips fall where they may.
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We live in a land of free thought, yes you have a right to believe what you wish. But remember your views are as up to debate as mine. Regardless of how right you feel, you are just as in question as my views are. After all as you so clearly said fact is based on a angle of perspective or view. The idea of all realities being real is still up to debate, regardless of what theories someone may come up with. With religion you pointed the obvious there I know the history of it yes. Read the bible to know what Jesus warned of, like I said it boils down to sin my point exactly, men are not perfect in this form. We live in a spiritual testing ground, James Madison said this "If men where angels no government would be necessary" which points again to what I am saying, man will have to be freed of sin through divine enlightenment in order to achieve what you have been saying here. Humanity is well capable of climbing above sin but not with out divine intervention, now you don't have to believe this and I am wasting time here as well considering you have made up your thought process long ago as I you made your point I made mine, We can move on and both agree this has been a good debate ! By the way how long to you take to make these comments they are quite impressive.
As for thought and mind control:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnRpbp…
You can skip to the eleven minute mark if you wish, the first few minutes are just commentary and meeting the directors etc... It's a good watch through
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I'll watch the movie later on. I have playlisted it on my YouTube Channel as well as downloading it right now using Video DownloadHelper.
Thank you for your patience. Most people would have in my opinion been pretty upset with my response because we are taught to crave the sweet lies and fear truth. As George Orwell once said "The father a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it". His wisdom here isn't about universal truth, as universal truth is an illusion. But rather he is speaking of the idea that society teaches us to lie to ourselves. To be someone we are not. To live up to the expectations of others. And the second anyone suggests that we just be honest in our expressions and be true to ourselves, this is what is raged against. Its like the book / movie "1984" outlines with satire: "Slavery is Freedom. War is Peace. Ignorance is Strength."
Again truth being colored by perspective and as Einstein said, time is relative: it really doesn't take me long at all to make these comments, and a great deal of thought does NOT pass through my brain in order for me to write this. The more aligned we are with ourselves, the task is easy and everything comes with ease, flow and effortlessness. The only time anything takes me time is if I am in resistance to myself and not listening to my heart.
I type very, very quickly. I can have an entire book worth of information enter me in a fraction of a second, and the temptation of my mind to struggle to organize it in an impossible amount of time is there, but must not be indulged. The heart knows what aspects of the information are relevant in the now and it knows how to flow it out and organize it as it is needed in the moment. So when I just allow that to happen automatically, my fingers take fight on their own and the words appear on the screen. When we allow ourselves to just be who we are, everything flow naturally. But when we try to be something we are not, then this takes time, effort, struggle, pain, stress and suffering.
As Genesis explains and most people miss, "sin" is a human created dichotomy. You're right, it is a very easy thing to transcend, which is why its so difficult. Because the mind prison implants a false belief system in which suffering can be the only real reality. That is how Satan deceives us, if you want to see it in those terms. The tree of life is a metaphor which represents the direct connection to God that we all have. The illusion of separation is created by the metaphor of the "knowledge of good and evil". As good and evil is a construct of sin which energetically feeds on itself. Just as police would be out of a job if there were no criminals. So that industry, that job market economy, the continuity of those families of those police officers being able to continue to put food on the table in this slavery system, depends on there being criminals to go bust. If there was peace and harmony, you would instantly have millions of police officers out of work. So the continuity of the survival of a police officer directly depends on criminals to bust. So in this way, and without the officers consciously knowing it -- they are the biggest advocates for evil that have ever walked the Earth.
The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" aligns with the idea of truth being colored by perspective, as does the "tree of life". From the perspective of the tree of life, it is acknowledged that all is an expression of the divine and so it is perfectly okay for everyone to do as they wish and to believe as they wish and be who they are. From this view, there is no desire to do harm onto anyone else. Because the desire to do harm on anyone else is based on the belief system that unless we control others, they will control us. It is a fear based illusion. The "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" allows for the birth of the first sin, arrogance. This sin allows us to believe in the lie of universal truth. So if we feel that we hold universal truth, then we can justify the worst of atrocities against those who refuse to accept our particular brand of truth. So this is totalitarianism.
I won't go into full detail, but if you do a little research you might find that "Sin" is actually the name of a Babylonian god. Its where we get the idea of Sin from. This false god, is a trickster. So the idea of "being born into original sin" does not mean we are born imperfect or damned. What it means is that we are born into the mind prison. Sin keeps us in the prison. It is the job of Sin to trick humanity into thinking that we have no direct connection to God. That we are low and miserable and limited. Where as of course Jesus calls Sin on its bullshit as he says things such as "is it not written in your law that yea also are gods?" and "all that i have done, also shall you do, and greater still" and "with faith as small as a muster seed yea shall command the mountain to move and it will obey you" and so on.
Jesus was trying to get people to understand that the universe is a hologram which allows us to create the physical reality we want to create. A quantum mirror. Exactly what the dual slit experiment and other quantum physics experiments have proven. That through faith, all is created. We always have faith in something, but the question is, what do we have faith in? If we have faith in a miserable world of suffering and sin, the hologram responds and provides it. This is why Jesus said "your father in heaven already knows what which you need, so this is how you should pray" and he gave us the lords prayer, which is a prayer of thanks and appreciation. Because thanks and appreciation tells the hologram to create a reality which provides us with things to be thankful and appreciative of and for.
So to begin to improve that hologram, we don't need to understand all of the science and all of the theories and all of the wisdom of the ages. We don't need to know what the Illuminati are up to or any of that. Because without a platform of thanks and appreciation, then all of that other knowledge is twisted and distorted by sin. But upon a platform of appreciation and thanks, that knowledge is translated more clearly as we see more and more opportunities to use the fertilizer of contrast to grow a garden of awesomeness for humanity.
Do no harm, but take no shit -- as I like to say.
So when there is war and suffering, if you can maintain appreciation and thankfulness, then you will be safe in the eye of that storm. But if you dive into fear then yes surely, that storm will kick your ass. The totalitarian boot of suffering will destroy you. So yes, if you are attacked then surely, defend yourself. But do it because you are appreciative and thankful for the life you want to keep living. Not out of fear and hate and revenge. Because if it is done out of fear and hate and revenge, then no defence will be good enough. Your own commands to the quantum hologram will have reality destroy you. Exactly as Jesus warns us of.
So do as you wish, you reserve that right. But I'll stick with Christ in the eye of the storm.
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Amen, I see we are on the same page. We are just phrasing are selves differently. Couldn't agree more with what you just said. As in the video you linked we speak and wright uniquely it is an art form we are art of divine wisdom. Glad your on DA spreading knowledge to others. It is quite refreshing to see someone as yourself who is open minded. I do not fear the tyrannical system, I hate it because it hates life it hates good, it hates peace, prosperity, free thinking, and most importantly freedom ! It hates everything that it is good, it spits in the face of the good in humanity and it is the job of good men and women to be stewards of the planet. To teach our children truth, light and wisdom. It is the job of good men to protect the weak and poor from the wicked and evil, evil will never be vanquished in this prison or world of sin. That can only be done by God or whatever you believe in and when I really think about it this nation was not formed by force but by compromise and diplomacy, the only force that was applied was to preserve and protect the colonists way of life. Tyranny must have no place in our nation, we were not founded on such principles. The United States in the words of Abraham Lincoln was a nation "For the people, by the people, and to the people". Not formed by a tyrannical Despot like Adolph Hitler filled with hate and radical ideas of how the world should be, all that brought him was his own demise and destruction. It's like the Sith they wish to save all that they hold dear and love but end up destroying it through their fear, confusion and anger. Whilst the Jedi see them for their evil wickedness and condemn them of their ways, it is a never ending battle physically, mentally, and spiritually. So historically, logically, scientifically, and biblically you made 100% truth with your statements above. Props ! As a Vulcan would say logic dictates what your saying to be true.
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Thank you for all of that, but there is still a large chunk of what you are saying that goes back to my original line of thought. I still see part of it as you falling for part of their trap and just not being aware that you are doing it. But, the mind prison though not indestructible, was designed pretty brilliantly, one must admit. If it was so easy to NOT fall into its trap, then it wouldn't currently be such a menacing problem, now would it? lol
I don't hate the system or the elites or anyone or anything, because to do that would be to put that cancer inside of me. I choose instead to be thankful for the opportunity to participate in the liberation of humanity. The elites and their system are like shit. In other words, fertilizer. Though it is not my preference to strip naked and roll around in horse shit or cow shit, or to liquify it and drink it, or to eat it, or to do anything like that with it; it is my preference to see it as a good thing, because I like gardens. I like flowers. Fertilizer is very useful for growing them. And shit is made from that which is dead. And allows for the phoenix to rise from the ashes with new life.
The elites and their shit system are merely contrast. Like the dark night sky. You could not appreciate the beautiful stars without the dark night sky. If the night sky was just as bright you could not even see the stars. So I do not hate the dark night sky. I appreciate its service which allows me to be able to see the stars. Darkness has its purpose. I simply do not feel obligated to live in perpetual darkness, and this is the line the Elites are crossing. But in crossing it, this gives us the opportunity to become better souls.
So if you want to fill yourself with any levels of hate, then just as anikan turned to the dark side with all of his good intentions to remain in the light, this too can happen to you also if you persist in this harbouring of hate. Jesus said the same thing. Star Wars is not telling us anything new. lol
You walk the fine line we all get to walk. You can allow all of your good intentions to push you into your own destruction, or you can make yourself an empty cup, let go of all you assume you know and let the Christ Consciousness fill you automatically. Ego will fight you on it. It will try not to let you do it. But you will do whatever it is you're going to do.
But even if the worst were to happen, look on the bright side -- even Vader went back to the light in the end
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Yes but he reddened his evil and vanquished it, As we all must do. The fight must be won spiritually as well as physically. Even Jesus understood the defense and protection of life, when Peter cut off the Roman guards ear for example he did not say shame on you he said Peter now is not the time for that, I came here for a purpose. We must be prepared for battle no matter what. Even the Jedi had to kick ass but they did it for a righteous cause to defend the order of the Republic. You can have emotions that is healthy but allowing your passions to control you is what leads to your down fall. In war especially emotions play a great part, controlling them is the main thing. Sometimes when push comes to shove you have to compare the man your fighting to scum, if not your dead you cant hesitate. You cant change my mind there I have talked to to many veterans and read to many stories of real events and accounts. Some compare it to hunting, like killing a deer. Wars sometimes must be fought regardless, the colonists fought back after trying to negotiate with the British. No amount of wits or enlightenment of how humanity will someday be when awakened will prevent the inevitable clash. War is part of sin and will not end until the second coming. It states in Revelations that if Jesus does not come back man will wipe himself off the planet, through war. I guess you can call it the warrior spirit it is to ingrained into me, tis in my blood, have Scottish and German in my veins, a brutal mix. The lust for conquest of a German nordsman and the free and independent spirit of a highlander. Violence in this realm is inevitable it is coming whether we want it to or not, I plan to be prepared. I don't know about you.
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I've no need nor desire to convince you of anything, I was simply responding to your perspective, with mine. It is you who said "I hate it because it hates life it hates good, it hates peace, prosperity, free thinking, and most importantly freedom ! It hates everything that it is good, it spits in the face of the good in humanity and it is the job of good men and women to be stewards of the planet." and in my own experiences (completely besides that of the teachings of Christ) hate only begets more hate. As I have said repeatedly, there is a difference on my opinion, between preparedness and the need for defence, and wars waged based on hate. Hate puts emotions out of control. So you are right, we must have control. Anything based upon hate automatically lacks control and can only implode to its own demise.
So if perhaps you misspoke, then thats fine. We all do that from time to time. But if your motivations are on how much you "hate the hateful", then my own soul and reason can not deny that hate is a part of the trap of self destruction. Jesus never said "hate your enemies, unleash vengeance upon those you hate who hate you". Never once.
Also from what I am able to understand about not only Christ's teachings, not only from my own experiences of things manifested in my own life and my own lessons learned, but also from my understanding of quantum physics and metaphysics; to the best of my ability to understand, to whatever extent that may or may not be: if we apply that to Revelations, this means that all of it will happen. The best of the best of the good and the worst of the worst of the bad. Those who are aligned with hate most surely will wipe themselves off the face of the Earth. Its already been happening and will continue until all of those who wish to wage war, have annihilated themselves.
You seem to have a desire for civil war. A desire for a bloody war against the Elites. And because hate and war only beget mutually assured destruction as Christ himself said, then all of those aligned with that will wipe themselves out. I agree with that much of it. We see it happening now and we will continue to see it until all those who have this blood lust are gone from the Earth, leaving only those who do not have this blood lust.
All I can do, is do my best to make sure I do not end up as collateral damage of these events. To be in the eye of the storm. To be prepared to defend myself if need be, but not to have a blood lust for war.
I have Cherokee and Scottish in me. My last name is Kelso. My primary alias is Time Warrior. But a warrior-priest, to use a euphemism, is as Gandhi said, a "solider of peace".
If you feel that war is the only way for your soul to learn, then thats fine. You will go do that and you will evolve your soul in that way. Just as Anikan Skywalker became Darth Vader to then later redeem salvation by embracing the light after those experiences in the dark taught him much. I accept that many souls here are going to insist on this bloody way of learning and evolving and there really isn't anything I can do about it, nor do I have the right to deny them the experience, even if I could deny it of them, which I can not.
Jesus never said "in this realm, was is a must, so just suck it up and deal with it". He said the opposite. He said that it is we who through our beliefs in this shit, create this shit. So if we want something better, we need faith in that which is better.
Do as you wish and believe as you wish. But to me from my perspectives, there are some obvious contradictions being made. And I am merely being honest about my observations in this regard. You can continue to stick to your current line of thinking, thats perfectly fine. I'm just being honest about my perceptions of it. Because to say anything other than the truth of how I truly feel, would make me a hypocrite and a liar.
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