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Max Igan on Over Population
Food: theres lots of it
Overpopulation: the making of a myth
7 Billion People: Everybody Relax
Urbanization: Who's Afraid Of The Big Bad City

I post things like this with the intention of sharing information and perspectives with LIKE MINDS. I have no need nor desire to "convince anyone of anything" nor to be "convinced of anything". Believe as you wish, I respect that. If you are looking for heated debate, I will disappoint you. I do not feel obligated to prove anything to you, nor to have anything proven to me. I post how I feel as per my rights to freedom of speech and expression. Thas the only justification I need.


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nanoperception In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 18:18:41 +0000 UTC]

Okay, so i have a couple problems with this, while there is lots of land in the world not all of it is inhabitable. On top of that while there's plenty of land the problem really is recourses and while there might be enough recourses because of the rich elite caused by capitalism there isn't really a way for the people in need to get the recourses they need. 


So in a way earth is overpopulated, not by space, but by the amount of things do or don't have.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to nanoperception [2013-08-20 03:15:08 +0000 UTC]

Refer to the video linked in the description. That will rectify your "not all land is inhabitable". The video uses Australia as the example and the entirety of Australia actually is inhabitable. Granted to make is sustainable would require sea water desalinization plants, but we are fully and easily capable of that as a human race. Only bureaucracy prevents it.

I think its not a leap of logic to see that a hell of a lot more of the world is habitable, beyond that of just the continent of Australia. Not to mention, seeing as most people only know of reality what is taught in school and by the main stream, they are oblivious to the advanced technologies that are available which do many amazing things. Not including "suppressed technologies" either. But sticking with readily available technologies which simply don't have millions of dollars worth of advertising revenue, because they are a threat to the controlling bureaucracy.

Permaculture, Aquaculture and Arcology being three of the most simplest.

With all due respect and no offence intended, even most of the most enlightened, intelligent and well intended people simply refuse to do the research on what is out there and available, because they are stuck in their box that the main stream has taught them that they must remain in and defend.

Therefore, most people do not understand that even places which are technically uninhabitable, can be made very easily habitable through a myriad of readily available sciences not only within the realms of sustainability, but free, clean energy which is abundant in so many forms I've lost count. Not even including the controversial "over unity" or "perpetual energy" devices -- but simply within the realms of solar, wind, wave, tidal, geothermal, hydroelectric, and the list goes on and on and on.

As for your last statement of "So in a way earth is overpopulated, not by space, but by the amount of things do or don't have." this I agree with. ANY amount of population of humans regardless of how large or small, is over population when it comes to the dysfunctional systems we have employed. So this goes back to exactly what I was saying. It is our mismanagement of resources that is the problem, not the number of humans on this Earth and the issue of habitable vs uninhabitable land is a non-issue.

The rich elites have caused nothing. We, the masses of people, wittingly or unwittingly, have allowed these fools to rule us. They have our permission. Our addictions to the paradigms we refuse to let go of, and our insistence that we need baby sitters and that we have the need to continue to exist in a self-destructive suicidal society. Where we see the idea of doing what is most easy and most productive as being a pipe dream, and we see destroying ourselves as being positive progress.

The so-called elites are like little kids, drunk on alcohol while high on crack and given the worlds money and resources. They have big dangerous toys and they need us to run those toy machines. And we are dumb enough to wilfully allow this to happen.

So I am not speaking in terms of fault or blame, this is simply the physics of the situation. It is a dichotomy and people need to wake up.

But I do not post the things I post to argue or try to convince anyone of anything. I post them to let the people who already know this stuff and who are already convinced, that they are not alone. and they have a choice to work with like minded people to make this world a better place, or to cower in a corner and do nothing, against their own better common sense.

No one can convince anyone of anything through force of will. We can only serve as examples to inspire others to become curious, if they so choose to be inspired and to become curious. I respect the rights of anyone who decides to think I'm nuts, full of it, or whatever else. I respect people rights to think, feel and express authentically. Even if that means the truth of the matter is, that they think I'm smoking something I shouldn't be. lol

Its all good by me. I've no negative judgement against any of this, because what one resist, persists. Its like adding fuel to the fire. I'm only here to inform and inspire those who wish to be informed and inspired. And encourage people to use their own discernment. Not to believe me just because what I might be saying "seems cool" and not to disbelieve me because what I am saying might "sound insane". But merely to do their own research and think for themselves, or to opt-out and remain trapped in the mind prison.

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gdpr-19335497 In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 16:02:22 +0000 UTC]

overpopulationisamyth.com/

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paradigm-shifting In reply to gdpr-19335497 [2013-08-20 23:56:23 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I have subed their YouTube Channel

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anoncru In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 08:33:24 +0000 UTC]

It's what Agenda 21 would like you to believe. And of course the Sustainability Cult swallows that shit and asks for more. Politically incorrect not to.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to anoncru [2013-08-19 09:02:04 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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anoncru In reply to paradigm-shifting [2013-08-19 09:49:14 +0000 UTC]

It's most effective with these types of groups because they portray themselves as the victim.

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ONLYoneCANNOLI In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 04:00:15 +0000 UTC]

all the humans on earth can fit in texas with a house and a yard. less so if you take into consideration the family unit.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ONLYoneCANNOLI [2013-08-19 05:58:54 +0000 UTC]

The video in the description uses Australia for that example but yeah, pretty much. It is our "disposable society" that is not sustainable, at ANY population.

I forgot who said this originally, but someone once said that society has gotten where it is, because we are supposed to love people and use things; but instead we live in a society that loves things and uses people.

Beyond that, all I really have to say about it, is this

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WingDiamond In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 02:48:56 +0000 UTC]

Please help control the Idiot Population!  If your IQ is < your shoe size please have yourself spayed or neutered!

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paradigm-shifting In reply to WingDiamond [2013-08-19 05:42:08 +0000 UTC]

I'm not sure if I'm being related to, or insulted.

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ZS3 In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 01:58:49 +0000 UTC]

I've got one word for you: Arcologies.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZS3 [2013-08-19 06:09:00 +0000 UTC]

Interesting. Just googled it. I've had similar ideas and seen similar ideas, but didn't know anyone had coined a term for it. Interesting.

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ZS3 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2013-08-22 04:22:57 +0000 UTC]

At best, it's an eco-friendly, single-building city.


At worst, it's a hive city.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZS3 [2013-08-22 06:36:56 +0000 UTC]

Well, if we integrated more aspects of nature into how we construct our homes, then even regular cities really wouldn't cause any inconvenience to plants, animals, or humans.

Obviously things like solar, wind and a myriad of other energy sources would eliminate the need for an electrical grid. If every house had access to a local stream and pond system for water, then nature-based technology for water processing for each home (along with rain water collection and other similar technologies) would eliminate the need for public sewer and water systems. Hydroponics makes growing your own food so easy any idiot could do it, as long as maintenance-free systems are developed, which is easy as long as we were to stop this "disposable society" mentality and actually built our technology to LAST. If we built our buildings into the sides of hills (even if the hill needed to be artificially constructed) it would be a lot more energy efficient as far as heating, cooling, etc and not nearly as susceptible to damage from storms, etc. The list goes on.

There is a myriad of very simple changes society could take to make things a million times better than they are now.

Also, 3D Printing Technology, if better perfected and made more widely available could make "do it yourself recycling" a no-brainer.

I've been doing my best to move my life more into sustainability. I live in Chicago which I feel is an important point, because the more I can accomplish with this "in the big city" then it helps to eliminate the excuses of other urban dwellers who say "well, i'd love to do this and that, but i can't -- because i live in the city, not out on a farm". lol

Granted, it takes time and money to move into full swing with a lot of this, but it can be done little bits at a time. And the more you get done, the more of both time and money you begin to save.

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ryu238 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2014-06-11 01:15:45 +0000 UTC]

I am all for this.

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ZS3 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2013-08-22 20:33:02 +0000 UTC]

I've been developing an anti-disposable philosophy myself. It involves the notion that handmade products have higher spiritual power (if any) than those that have been stamped out by a machine.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZS3 [2013-08-23 04:35:53 +0000 UTC]

As long as people run the machines, mass manufacturing does not lack spiritual power. But these days we have machines making machines making machines to run machines which run machines which run machines. lol

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ZS3 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2013-08-25 18:42:32 +0000 UTC]

If we made our own things with materials we found, then the strain on resources will be significantly diminished, items will be far less disposable because we made them and take pride in them, we know that the materials used are legit, oil and gas reserves will be in less demand because we'd have no need to import tools and materials, and the environment will be saved from the reduced carbon emissions and strain on natural resources!

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZS3 [2013-08-25 19:04:03 +0000 UTC]

Wisdom begets wisdom, foolishness begets wisdom

Wisdom begets wisdom, foolishness begets foolishness **

The perils of spelling and grammar checker auto-word replacement bullshit. Though cell phones are worse, so I should be thankful I'm not on one of those. lol

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paradigm-shifting In reply to ZS3 [2013-08-25 19:02:00 +0000 UTC]

Be it made ourselves or made en mass, these truths hold:  anything made to degrade, is wasteful. Anything made to last, is not wasteful.

So with all due respect, the semantics you point out as for the specifics of how something should or should not be made, are irrelevant; as a rose by any other name is still a friggen rose, to paraphrase Shakespear.

Wisdom begets wisdom, foolishness begets wisdom. Foolishness done individually, eventually will be done en mass. Wisdom done individually, will eventually be done en mass. What you put out, is what you get back. Both individuality and en mass are both equal and valid concepts, and both can be wielded wisely or foolishly.

Nuff' said.

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FlipswitchMANDERING [2013-08-19 01:50:18 +0000 UTC]

This is so true.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to FlipswitchMANDERING [2013-08-19 06:03:33 +0000 UTC]

Agreed.

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plzwork112234 In reply to ??? [2013-08-19 00:45:55 +0000 UTC]

Overpopulation is just an excuse for Abortion advocates... I have heard people say that there are to many people and we need to kill billions to get to a suitable population. It's disgusting.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to plzwork112234 [2013-08-19 00:55:15 +0000 UTC]

Its actually a bit more sinister than this. If you have too many people, the end result is a waking up out of the sleep of ignorance and an evolution into a united humanity.  The psychopaths who have had the population asleep, stupid and under control require ignorance to keep that control. Knowledge is power and such. But when a population gets too big and technology advanced enough, its impossible to maintain a global ignorance. People start waking up.

The whole idea of humans supposedly being violent and naturally corruptible is absolute bullshit. Its a lie we're fed through indoctrination. Even the most brilliant and loving mind will collapse into violent madness when subject to enough emotional and psychological abuse. This abuse is not "normal" to humanity. It is unnatural and it is forced, by psychopathic assholes.

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plzwork112234 In reply to paradigm-shifting [2013-08-19 01:57:39 +0000 UTC]

I don't know man. Sounds like some things I agree with but others sound like Libertarian conspiracy crap.

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paradigm-shifting In reply to plzwork112234 [2013-08-19 05:58:10 +0000 UTC]

Politics as a whole is crap and part of the trap. Two heads, one snake. What I find most funny is that both Republicrats and Democans both accuse me of being "one of them" when I am neither of them. I am no party. I am an individual who uses his own brain and thinks for himself. With no disrespect intended, as I do respect peoples rights to align with a political view if they want to -- but anyone who advocates neurotic division, is a part of the problems, not the solutions. Most people do not know they have been deceived into being part of the problem.

So in equal measure -- when I make statements like this, anyone who blindly believes anything I say is just as big of a fool as anyone who blindly holds onto their spoon fed dogmas, be them religious, political or otherwise.

I want to encourage people to use discernment and think for themselves. Most so-called enlightened people will automatically reject the views of others, reject evidences presented on the premise of "well thats crap" and "i'm not going to have my intelligence insulted by wasting my time with it". But if any evidence is blindly rejected on bias, or blindly accepted -- it is the same neurotic pathology at work regardless of which side of the coin a person is on.

I'm one of those people who pisses most people off, because they try to fit me into a box that I don't fit into. People who are overly negative accuse me of being naively positive, the naively positive accuse me of being overly negative -- and neither "faction" realizes that I'm not on the side of either of them, and they do not realize that they are two sides of the same ignorance. lol

I've never fit into society and I am very proud of that. This society is suicidal.

Another thing most people don't understand is that most of my views are based on my own life experiences, and supported by personal research I've done. And one of the most important keys to research is to WELCOME being wrong about things. It is an opportunity for growth and evolution. And one can only do that when they can stop DEBATING and just start sharing information with others and giving themselves and others the right to "agree to disagree" with people on things, rather than resort to ad homonym idiocy.

So I respect everyones right to their views. The people who hate me and judge me, equal to those who like me and respect me. I respect absolutely everyones right to think as they think, feel as they feel and to express those views.

In my view -- people who think there are no conspiracies are just ans blind as those who think everything is a conspiracy. People always want to look for which ingredient to blame for the cake, if you know what I mean.

I'm not Libertarian, but I know that much of what you would consider to be "conspiracy crap" is TRUE. I also know that there are truther idiots who take that truth, over dramatize it and then people like you watch these ass clowns, and then with the same prejudice as racial or any other form of prejudice, you classify everyone who might believe in similar things, as being "libertarian conspiracy nuts".

Don't get me wrong, I respect your right to do that. I'm just respecting my own right to my own observations in equal measure. So I am telling you all of this out of respect, and being completely honest with you. Not out of disrespect.

You can think I'm a Libertarian Conspiracy Nut if you wish to. I've been called worse. lol

I've also been called a New Age Idiot because of my views on quantum physics and metaphysics. Tons of boxes people try to put me in, I'm used to it. Society breeds sociopathic behaviour.

No hard feelings on my part. I don't hold it against you at all if I just pissed you off. Have a good day

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