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Published: 2011-10-30 14:07:48 +0000 UTC; Views: 12454; Favourites: 207; Downloads: 0
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Description For a few months a system on dA allows us to view e.g. other deviations of the same gallery without needing to refresh the whole page. That might be a bit faster, and be more pleasant to eye (without that white blink when the page starts loading), but has a big impact on bookmarking or copy-pasting the URL shown in the address bar when we want to show someone a particular deviation. In such case, having clicked on the link or the bookmark, the user downloads the first page on which he landed to view the deviation (e.g. gallery, other work of the same artist, category), and then the deviation itself is loaded.

I know the textbox with similar facility is hidden in the Share menu, but it isn't good for bookmarking either. One must copy the address in the "Link" section, paste it in their sidebar and then bookmark it. Or click the title to be redirected to static version of the deviation page.

The other way out is to include a line in page's header:

which might be good for bookmarks. This way users would still need to drop-down the Share menu to let someone know about the deviation in a more efficient way.

PS. Excuse me for my interpretation of permalink icon. I'm not a good pixel artist.

Ed. Thank you so much for the Daily Deviation! I hope this helps and dA deviations' pages would get the Permalink button (or the fav.me alias link more exposed).
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pawelabrams In reply to ??? [2011-11-19 12:41:03 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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The-Lost-Hope In reply to pawelabrams [2011-11-19 15:16:03 +0000 UTC]

Your welcome. ^^

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dAr-Crew [2011-11-03 09:04:41 +0000 UTC]

Featured here ! Please consider faving the article.

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pawelabrams In reply to dAr-Crew [2011-11-03 22:55:49 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Virg-inwater [2011-11-02 23:05:09 +0000 UTC]

Welll, I like the idea of "permalink" in life! As far as the pc's and parts go, I'm pretty clueless.

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Pulpix [2011-11-02 14:46:47 +0000 UTC]

Ja to bym zjadł batona ._.

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pawelabrams In reply to Pulpix [2011-11-02 14:47:43 +0000 UTC]

A ja to nawet ze dwa ;D

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aMorle [2011-11-02 14:19:04 +0000 UTC]

Good idea, and well delivered, I loved how your stated the problem and utilized your interaction skills to formulate a successful GUI that users here could really appreciate, It will also make DA more viral. Oh! and you are excused for your poor craftsmanship in iconography... Fireworks I presume?

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pawelabrams In reply to aMorle [2011-11-02 14:28:11 +0000 UTC]

Actually, it was done in a mix of GIMP (the icon and gluing this up) and Google Chrome and it's excellent Inspector tool to make up the button (I substituted the "Favourites" text with "Permalink" and made a screenshot).

Thanks for such a positive opinion!

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IreneLangholm [2011-11-02 11:23:46 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I hate what dA did to the deviation links. Several different link types to one page is just no good, it annoys me every day. This would be sweet.

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pawelabrams In reply to IreneLangholm [2011-11-02 14:30:30 +0000 UTC]

In the good old days there was only one link - the http :// deviantart.com /deviation/{id} one. Then the fancy one with the title in it was introduced. Then, they added a shortlink fav.me feature. Now we've got millions of possible addresses because of the hashtag thingy...

In fact, we don't need a button itself maybe, but greater exposure of the "Link" section of "Details" menu.

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IreneLangholm In reply to pawelabrams [2011-11-02 22:54:16 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I think it's a real mess, I can't stand it. Especially not the redirecting links. I exclusively use the title link if I link to devs. I don't really care for the favme link either because I like seeing the name of the dev when I hover over the link.

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pawelabrams In reply to IreneLangholm [2011-11-02 23:04:09 +0000 UTC]

I do too

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IreneLangholm In reply to pawelabrams [2011-11-02 23:32:52 +0000 UTC]

!

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XXAnemia [2011-11-02 07:52:23 +0000 UTC]

but you can just click the title and it gives you the permalink o_o

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pawelabrams In reply to XXAnemia [2011-11-02 14:15:12 +0000 UTC]

I do know it - and wrote it in the Artist's Comments - but many of my friends don't. It's not obvious for people who don't know deviantArt that well

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JZLobo [2011-11-02 05:29:17 +0000 UTC]

I really hate the "gallery bypass" links myself. This would clear up a lot of confusion, I think!

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pawelabrams In reply to JZLobo [2011-11-02 14:15:36 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for thinking so!

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KissingTheShadow [2011-11-02 05:10:15 +0000 UTC]

You should make a thread in the suggestions forum for this(unless you did, but I didn't see it).

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pawelabrams In reply to KissingTheShadow [2011-11-02 14:16:07 +0000 UTC]

Well, yeah, I should

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Marcotonio-desu [2011-11-02 04:21:47 +0000 UTC]

"Or click the title to be redirected to static version of the deviation page."

Man, I hate this. Hope your suggestion gets attention with this DD.

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pawelabrams In reply to Marcotonio-desu [2011-11-02 14:30:59 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for appreciation!

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21gunbunnies [2011-11-02 04:07:17 +0000 UTC]

THANK YOU! I always have to click the title and load the page twice, then go back again to find my way back to the gallery/messages

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21gunbunnies In reply to 21gunbunnies [2011-11-02 04:09:18 +0000 UTC]

wait, I just noticed there is a link in the details >.<

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pawelabrams In reply to 21gunbunnies [2011-11-02 14:17:59 +0000 UTC]

Well, this way or the other, I think this thing could be done in another way. It just needs a thought or two in the core team

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Miscomunication [2011-11-02 03:41:12 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't mind something like this :3

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Twilight-Dawn12 [2011-11-02 03:40:25 +0000 UTC]

What's a PermaLink?

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pawelabrams In reply to Twilight-Dawn12 [2011-11-02 14:46:16 +0000 UTC]

It's a link to the deviation that would stay as long as the deviation itself; when you click on any of the images while browsing, you'll notice a lengthy, unreadable string of letters and numbers, which might not work after, say, 3 months, instead of a shorter and clearer permalink: (I used an example from your gallery):

what you usually get: http:// anime-anthro-art.deviantart.com/ gallery/?q=gallery%3Aanime-anthro-art%2F33116617&qo=1#/d4bg4wt
what the permalink should be: http:// twilight-dawn12.deviantart.com/ art/Dawn-Sune-OC-261093341

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Twilight-Dawn12 In reply to pawelabrams [2011-11-02 20:51:51 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I see. Well then it's a very good idea! Thank you for explaining.

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pawelabrams In reply to Twilight-Dawn12 [2011-11-02 21:54:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you - and no problem!

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FionaCreates In reply to Twilight-Dawn12 [2011-11-02 03:46:30 +0000 UTC]

Permanent Link

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Icejin [2011-11-02 03:38:13 +0000 UTC]

Bah seams good, To bad I wont EVER use it ....

Needs a dislike button and a like button.

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KissingTheShadow In reply to Icejin [2011-11-02 05:05:35 +0000 UTC]

This isn't facebook, favourite it instead.

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Icejin In reply to KissingTheShadow [2011-11-02 08:32:40 +0000 UTC]

I dont use facebook, Faving does not mean anything anyway...

besides there are enough tools to make this into another facebook....

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KissingTheShadow In reply to Icejin [2011-11-02 22:06:32 +0000 UTC]

If "faving" doesn't mean anything, why would "liking"?

I'm sure most of the people here don't want this to -be- facebook.

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Icejin In reply to KissingTheShadow [2011-11-03 13:48:15 +0000 UTC]

For it would be cool? naw shit, if they stop editing this site so much sooner or later DA is gone end up like FB...

if this place did turn into FB, I did leave...

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KissingTheShadow In reply to Icejin [2011-11-04 01:58:58 +0000 UTC]

I don't even know what you mean, you'll need to type it properly

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Icejin In reply to KissingTheShadow [2011-11-04 02:47:59 +0000 UTC]

Kthxbai.

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KissingTheShadow In reply to Icejin [2011-11-04 02:50:37 +0000 UTC]

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aetherchild [2011-11-02 03:27:07 +0000 UTC]

You can get the permalink by clicking on the name of the deviation though ?

In this one's case, the text that says "dA Suggestion: Permalink" beneath the image and above "by ~pawelabrams."

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silent-jugement [2011-11-02 03:04:16 +0000 UTC]

this is such a good idea!

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pawelabrams In reply to silent-jugement [2011-11-02 14:22:02 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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silent-jugement In reply to pawelabrams [2011-12-10 04:42:08 +0000 UTC]

(: you're welcome!

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HellsPlumber [2011-11-02 02:36:20 +0000 UTC]

YES THIS.

I'm so sick of people sending me non-working long-winded url's to dA images that give errors, and even more tired of having to right click a deviations title and having to "copy link location".

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pawelabrams In reply to HellsPlumber [2011-11-02 14:22:26 +0000 UTC]

I have just the same problem.

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HellsPlumber In reply to pawelabrams [2011-11-02 14:29:46 +0000 UTC]

Glad I'm not the only one.

Personally I don't think the ability to view images without refreshing the page makes any differance other than creating new problems and giving the same visual experiance we had previously, but with a 0.005 second improvement on load-times

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MarioxPeach [2011-11-02 02:21:47 +0000 UTC]

Heh.... I'm still trying to get my "Fav Search Bar" idea in.

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pawelabrams In reply to MarioxPeach [2011-11-02 14:41:00 +0000 UTC]

Definitely worth a closer look, but you would need to make a clear visualisation of it and submit it to #deviousSUGGESTIONS group. People there know what a worthy suggestion should look like

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kagaminneko [2011-11-02 01:41:18 +0000 UTC]

gone fishing

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Shreedle [2011-11-02 01:06:15 +0000 UTC]

Great idea. My netbook which I use while at work and in class has a huge problem with lag -- and many of the links that people give me take forever to load because its not the permanent link (or doesn't load at all). This would really help a lot for those people with lag or with super slow connections.

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