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Published: 2019-07-01 22:06:10 +0000 UTC; Views: 21627; Favourites: 550; Downloads: 182
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Description One more concept of fictional sword in modern version. To get job done in one session model is simple. Core is blade made of 1 piece of metal with piece of plastic part mounted on each side  served as a main and front grip.  No any fancy features around, just simple lines made by modern technology and materials. 

I worked in 3ds max, used vray rendering engine and finished it in photoshop. 


So what do you think. Do you like it or not? tnx for comments if any. bye.
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TheArtOfZetix [2019-07-01 23:51:09 +0000 UTC]

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In terms of design/artistry it works quite well, especially for the intended purpose. It does look like a modern interpretation of a sword, yet avoids looking too flashy or "tacticool". The geometry and different holes for removing weight make it look even better, leaving enough thickness so that the blade doesn't look flimsy. The completely black background seems to get a little bit in the way in terms of the rightmost view, however, due to reflective nature of the metal. From a practical/functional standpoint, full tang has been done historically, and makes sense to apply here. the added plastic grip above the guard is also useful in terms of more leverage for more accurate thrusts. The guard however, worries me as it is trapezoidal and sharp. With such a guard, another sword would easily slide off and cut the user's arm. And if the guard itself is sharp, it could also hurt the user's hand if they slip while holding the plastic above it. The plastic grip for the handle is fine, but the pommel would have to be at least slightly wider to help prevent slippage. A point of debate would be serrations, as aesthetically it is pleasing, but in terms of functionality they are a bad idea. Serrations are better for draw-cutting weapons such as knives, whereas chopping/slashing weapons like swords and axes tend to avoid them.

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peterku In reply to TheArtOfZetix [2019-07-03 04:59:00 +0000 UTC]

Hi mate tnx for review. I know what you mean. Most concept of swords with added word "fantasy"  looks crazy. I also have some of them in my gallery. Big group of people preffer them but I undestand they are totally usesless in real world. I take them more like the art form to mount on the wall and they are good excersise for mnodeling. Real swords have to be simple. That guard should be turn up side down, but ends on it are not sharped. Material there is just tighten but without any blade. Evn I amateur no that would be nonsense. And about material on the grip - no one invented anything better then leather turned around. Easy to make and very good connection between hand and sword. It can partially follow shape of hands, sweat doens make as big problem as on other materials. 

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TheArtOfZetix In reply to peterku [2019-07-04 01:36:00 +0000 UTC]

I see, thanks for the clarification on the guard! looking forward to your future works!

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MichaelJohnMorris [2019-07-08 20:26:41 +0000 UTC]

Great job! ^^

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peterku In reply to MichaelJohnMorris [2019-07-09 04:45:31 +0000 UTC]

tnx you

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MichaelJohnMorris In reply to peterku [2019-07-11 14:57:03 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! ^^

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Fhaolan [2019-07-02 22:06:12 +0000 UTC]

Cool. Some commentary on design from someone who has worked with swords some time ago:

Plastic on the ricasso (the unsharpened bit between the blade and the guard) is going to get chewed up a lot if this sword is used to block or parry other swords. Sliding an opposing blade onto the ricasso so you have leverage to move them around is a standard maneuver. I understand wanting to put a extra grip up there, as some real swords do that for additional leverage on a blow (rather than a parry), but those that do have it be a easily replaceable covering that isn't that big of a loss when it gets sliced up.

The little divots along the blade will make it necessary to pay more attention during a slip block; which combined with the bit above means the blade is not really designed for more advanced blocks and parries. That's not really a problem as such, more dictating the fighting style that goes along with the sword.

The pommel is looking a little light, and with the lack of taper (both distal and profile), means this is going to be very blade-heavy. But given it's also a relatively short blade, that's not that bad. It's going to be a chop & thrust-er, not a slice & dicer.

Basically, for all it's ultra-modern styling, it's looking like this would be used like some early battle swords like the gladius and spatha. No fancy maneuvers with this one, it's gonna be straightforward and brutal. It's definitely a tactical sword, not a dueling sword.

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peterku In reply to Fhaolan [2019-07-03 21:40:24 +0000 UTC]

great  I have here somebody with experience with real swords. I have zero so I accept all your points. I always like the swords and recently I watched some guys on youtube like Skallagrim and Lindybeige to get some info sword principle and middle age in general. That pommel I wanted to make it in way it can be using for hitting. Its end is no sharpen but I saw that this type of tip can make a lot of damage even under armor. I did one more sword respecting (most) of the limits real swords have. here it is: Lucano  . Let me know your opinion about technical background. ( Ok I allready know pommel needs to be heavier.) regards. 

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NewHorizontStudio [2019-07-02 21:14:59 +0000 UTC]

Amazong

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peterku In reply to NewHorizontStudio [2019-07-03 05:25:19 +0000 UTC]

tnx 

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OldPaleDrake [2019-07-02 21:10:23 +0000 UTC]

Usually when someone tries to make a "tactical" sword it ends of looking like a poorly-milled edgelords wetdream. THIS actually looks like a sword meant for the modern battlefield and it's splendid! 

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peterku In reply to OldPaleDrake [2019-07-03 05:25:15 +0000 UTC]

yea I know what you mean. I also have some swords like that in my gallery. I consider him like form of art to mount on wall then useable weapon. And they are good excersise for modeling.

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sed [2019-07-02 16:03:07 +0000 UTC]

EXCLNT!!

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peterku In reply to sed [2019-07-03 05:23:35 +0000 UTC]

tnx you.

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sed In reply to peterku [2019-07-07 00:19:01 +0000 UTC]

 

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man-among-men [2019-07-02 15:47:06 +0000 UTC]

Decent. Doesn't have a taper though, and the handle, while pretty functional, could be a bit more of a elongated tear shape to better fit ones hand. Pommel also doesn't quite look like it'll catch the hand comfortably. Otherwise, I quite like the look of it. The grooves on the blade make me think that they can be replaced individually when damaged or blunted. The bit of the blade just after the cross guard is also  pretty neat.  I've two sword that have that, but I don't know what it's called.

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peterku In reply to man-among-men [2019-07-03 05:23:31 +0000 UTC]

tnx you mate. that pommel I did in shape of small/short spike (but not shapern) as I saw swordmen used to use it in fight as a secondary tool to hit enemy unexpectelly. 

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man-among-men In reply to peterku [2019-07-03 05:53:15 +0000 UTC]

I like that detail, but the part where the bottom of your had would hit it should be a bit wider than the handle, and maybe not so angular for comfort reasons. The pommel was designed as both a counter weight and a method of preventing hand slipping, so it's offensive capabilities are more or less secondary. It's been weaponized pretty well throughout the years though.

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peterku In reply to man-among-men [2019-07-03 21:43:47 +0000 UTC]

Hi. yea know problem I accept those points I just wanna explained my idea behind that. And yea I watched some guys on youtube demonstrating fights with swords and was quite suprised how often they use other parts of sword like pommel or crossguard to attack or even How often they touched and hold sword for blade itself in fight. 

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man-among-men In reply to peterku [2019-07-04 02:13:36 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah, half swording is surprisingly effective, especially against armoured foes. I kind of gathered that you accepted the points, just clarifying and making conversation.

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peterku In reply to man-among-men [2019-07-06 05:21:17 +0000 UTC]

hi. I always accept critic and take it in positive way. that is the best way for me to improve.  

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man-among-men In reply to peterku [2019-07-06 05:46:49 +0000 UTC]

(Hi? Didn't we start this a while ago?)

I like a good critique myself, even though we do vastly different stuff. It indeed helps quite a bit, especially if you hit a wall and cant' figure out what's wrong. I have to post more complete things though for people to say more than "clean up the linework, otherwise it looks nice." Gotta get some digital stuff out sometime and all that.

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peterku In reply to man-among-men [2019-07-07 17:56:09 +0000 UTC]

yea you are right. when you start to improve yourself in something then progress is very quick. but later as you become better and better, stepping  up on the ladder is harder and slower in time....

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man-among-men In reply to peterku [2019-07-08 01:51:49 +0000 UTC]

Something like that. It's a bit hard to quantify.

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templar127 [2019-07-02 14:38:36 +0000 UTC]

Very cool take on blades! Looks like a futuristic excalibur!

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peterku In reply to templar127 [2019-07-03 05:20:59 +0000 UTC]

tnx you mate. 

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Nintendians [2019-07-02 14:38:09 +0000 UTC]

reminds me of metal gear solid.

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peterku In reply to Nintendians [2019-07-03 05:20:50 +0000 UTC]

it has more tactical and they use katanas. 

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Nintendians In reply to peterku [2019-07-03 15:20:10 +0000 UTC]

yeah, but design, look kind similar to it, in some way. not talking about the actual sword it's base from.

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bluewingfairy [2019-07-02 12:18:09 +0000 UTC]

Good morning, Siegfried is cool!!!.

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peterku In reply to bluewingfairy [2019-07-03 05:20:25 +0000 UTC]

tnx you mate. 

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bluewingfairy In reply to peterku [2019-07-03 13:45:55 +0000 UTC]

You're very welcome mate❤️😊.

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Enriks-Da-Writer [2019-07-02 08:41:29 +0000 UTC]

How big is it, anyway?

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peterku In reply to Enriks-Da-Writer [2019-07-03 05:20:19 +0000 UTC]

not sure but proportion I took from one I found on internet. somewhere between normal length sword but more broad.

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Enriks-Da-Writer In reply to peterku [2019-07-03 10:18:37 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see.

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Fotoref [2019-07-02 04:45:05 +0000 UTC]

Cool pic!

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peterku In reply to Fotoref [2019-07-03 05:19:36 +0000 UTC]

tnx.

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warrior31992 [2019-07-02 03:31:43 +0000 UTC]

Interesting blade

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peterku In reply to warrior31992 [2019-07-03 05:19:32 +0000 UTC]

tnx you.

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warrior31992 In reply to peterku [2019-07-03 05:32:17 +0000 UTC]

Your Welcome

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Jonot [2019-07-02 03:03:47 +0000 UTC]

This one looks mean. Like it wants to beat you up

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peterku In reply to Jonot [2019-07-03 05:19:27 +0000 UTC]

tnx you mate. 

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Gromgorefiend [2019-07-02 02:28:06 +0000 UTC]

That is very cool.

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peterku In reply to Gromgorefiend [2019-07-03 05:19:18 +0000 UTC]

tnx.

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Champis01 [2019-07-02 01:27:33 +0000 UTC]

It is an impressive looking model to be sure. One thing I am curious about, not so much the model or the artwork, but, how practical or effective that would that be were it an actual sword? I am not a sword expert of any kind, but, sort of curious to know what an actual sword expert would say about the practicality and utility of the design.

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peterku In reply to Champis01 [2019-07-03 05:19:14 +0000 UTC]

this one I did without any exact measuring but in reality you would have to make precise plan and calculation how to distribute material mass in order to get gravity point into right spot which is quite important. it has exact place to be. that plastic grip weight little so this shouldnt be a problem. 

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man-among-men In reply to Champis01 [2019-07-02 15:52:57 +0000 UTC]

I'm more of a sword enthusiast than an expert, but apart from the lack of taper, the segmented blade, and undersized  pommel, it's a useable bastard sword. the cross guard is also more akin to something you'd see on a one handed cutting sword, but that's not really a detriment.

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Vamprah9588 In reply to Champis01 [2019-07-02 02:20:21 +0000 UTC]

Not an expert, but here's my take-

The blade is very thick with a steep edge taper (more like an axe than a longsword), and the skeletal pommel means it's going to be very blade-heavy. Therefore, it's most similar to an executioner's sword. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executio…

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Gromgorefiend In reply to Vamprah9588 [2019-07-02 02:29:19 +0000 UTC]

yes some one else who knows what an executioner's sword is .

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Fuego-fantasmal [2019-07-01 22:21:06 +0000 UTC]

Looks cool.

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