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Description A concept for the refitting of the GALAXY class.

(One of the most significant areas of detail addressed in this version are the nacelle struts. I had toyed with changing their shapes before, but here I actually gave some thought to reconciling the dorsal and profile views, and likewise, to how it would alter the visual impression of overall proportion.)

Around the time of — but originally unrelated to — the USS Galaxy Admiral's Bridge project phaeton99.deviantart.com/art/U… , I was considering how the GALAXY Class might be updated to meet the standards of the current setting timeframe as represented by Enterprise-E.  The consideration was spurred by a fleeting idea for a bit of fan fiction in which the current Enterprise meets its massively refit predecessor from an alternate future timeline (inspired by a vague notion about the survival of Picard's nephew, who would appear as the Captain of this ship)  in which it was Kirk, not Picard, who emerged alive from the tangle with Dr.Soren, and due to a quirk of circumstance, "D" was never destroyed... a story idea that never quite gelled for a variety of reasons.  The notion of refitting the GALAXY Class, however, seemed worth pursuing, regardless.

I compiled a list of the all sorts of prospective alterations — from such minor details as SOVEREIGN-type lifeboats, an enlarged impulse deck, a new bridge module, and Defiant-like Captain's Yacht;  to major component changes like new nacelles, a potentially deepened keel and a reshaped neck — and arbitrarily applied them mentally to what had long been my imagined "personal" ship of the class, the "USS Millennium" (or alternately, "Millennia" — and yes, the Captain's yacht is called the "Falcon", of course  ), with the idea that this latter-day GALAXY might be built from the keel with these new attributes. 

Ultimately, I conceived of the list as also representing a major refit program for the Class as a whole and dubbed it the "Millennium Refit" after that vessel.

It was about a year ago (2008) that I began to try putting these ideas into practice, starting with the more major changes.

Above is one of several quick experiments testing variations on the look of the new neck I had envisioned:  more aggressively raked than the original, repositioning the saucer a few decks lower on the vertical axis and slightly more forward. (note the inset profile comparison).

This particular idea was an old one, dating back to my first impressions of Enterprise-D back in 1988.  I thought the ship looked too awkwardly duck-like in profile and thought it would be improved with a more swan-like neck that thrust the primary hull forward, making for a sleeker form.  I later became accustomed to Ent-D's proportions, but the idea endured. Prior to the new experiments, I had never used actual GALAXY components to test its merits.

Engineering-wise, reconfiguring the neck would not be an unreasonably complicated alteration of the space-frame, even though it would significantly alter the appearance of the ship, since neither the attachments to the saucer nor engineering hull would be significantly changed (though the lower mounting ended up significantly wider here to accommodate the thickening of the neck).  The argument for doing so might be high warp efficiency or impulse maneuverability; or be related to some aspect of the new engines installed.

I added an armored collar around the main deflector — just barely visible here — inspired by a production study model for the TNG Enterprise that featured something of the sort (see p.71 of The Art of Star Trek, 1995 edition).

The saucer grid has been completely reworked to de-emphaisze the radial symmetry of the hull, and better differentiate the forward sections from the aft. I tried to give both the impression of armor platting and a subtle suggestion of wings — not in the Romulan sense, but rather as a different way of conceiving of the spread of the wide elliptical hull in an era of more dart-like ships.

Not visible on the schematics is a concept for the main impulse exhausts (which is now the saucer units, not the smaller engineering hull ones): in addition to the large vents topside, a set of smaller ones would appear on the underside of each unit, allowing direct thrust to be vectored more easily across a wider arc. This is an idea that struck me soon after noting that Enterprise -E's impulse decks seem to lack a clear mechanical means to direct impulse thrust at a low angle.

I'm still toying with the idea of integrating some sort of warp nacelles into the saucer for separated operation, either as submerged structures or extendible — but I have yet to come up with a satisfactory solution.


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ColonialChrome [2019-08-10 17:12:36 +0000 UTC]

"I'm still toying with the idea of integrating some sort of warp nacelles into the saucer for separated operation, either as submerged structures or extendible" 



^ very rough doodle

In my HC they deploy through the cobra socket, mainly because you don't alter the lines much. As the nacelles (albeit small) are fairly bulky, they are stowed near enough in the body of the saucer. To deploy, the pylons lower to a 'catch position, the nacelles emerge through the doors, roll back on their rails, then connect to the pylons and disconnect from the rails. The pylons then move into operation position.

The only external change to the model would then be a unrep port just behind shuttle bay one where ships could refuel her teeny tiny reserve of fuel, for the occassion where the girl would need to keep under her own warp, say, if a ship had no tractor beam.

In headcanon the saucer is able to maintain warp three for around thirty six hours, giving it an operating range of about .16ly, which isn't enough to get to another star, but might be enough to get lost from the baddies.

No bussards, each nacelle has a deflector. I just don't like Probert's square ones.

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Stargazzer811 [2018-02-24 19:29:20 +0000 UTC]

I could see the remaining Galaxy class starships (starting with Galaxy herself of course) looking like this post 2380. Would fit nicely alongside the Sovereign and still maintain the classic look we've come to love from TNG.

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Phaeton99 In reply to Stargazzer811 [2018-02-25 03:24:43 +0000 UTC]

Well, that was the general idea.

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Stargazzer811 In reply to Phaeton99 [2018-02-25 07:46:33 +0000 UTC]

You hit the nail on the head

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bjmaxvin67 In reply to Stargazzer811 [2018-02-25 23:40:58 +0000 UTC]

I have stated this before but after seeing MadMan1701A Galaxy Class Kelvinverse designs and how similar they resemble  Phaeton99's refitted GALAXY class design. This refit would really fit nicely alongside the Sovereign and other newer designs.   

s5.photobucket.com/user/MadMan…

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Stargazzer811 In reply to bjmaxvin67 [2018-02-27 01:03:26 +0000 UTC]

Indeed.

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godofthunder7070 [2017-09-21 09:44:53 +0000 UTC]

i would like to aquire permission to ues this image as I am going to make this in model form. I have truly been inspired by this. It would be greatful if could get to tihs, thanks.

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godofthunder7070 [2017-09-21 09:37:24 +0000 UTC]

I would like to aquire permission to use this image as I would like to make a 3 dimensional representation of this. I have been truly inspired by your art.

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Phaeton99 In reply to godofthunder7070 [2017-09-21 21:24:44 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome to give it a go, so long as you give due credit.

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godofthunder7070 In reply to Phaeton99 [2017-09-23 11:30:36 +0000 UTC]

I was and thank you. 

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bjmaxvin67 [2017-06-08 17:44:03 +0000 UTC]

What a beautiful design! 
I love your new GALAXY class refit design and I could see Starfleet using this design as a refit after the war with the Dominion.   I am curious are you going to do an ortho of this beautiful vessel? 

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Phaeton99 In reply to bjmaxvin67 [2017-06-09 14:54:25 +0000 UTC]

Possible, but unlikely — it's a very old concept and a low priority —but one never knows.  It was already very old when I made these.

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FactionParadox [2017-04-22 23:11:31 +0000 UTC]

This design would be a great choice for the ENTERPRISE D in the NuTrek /  J.J. verse version. 

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bjmaxvin67 In reply to FactionParadox [2018-02-24 01:31:47 +0000 UTC]

Yes this design would be a great choice for the ENTERPRISE D in the NuTrek / Kelvinverse. I have also seen a Kelvinverse Enterprise 1701-D rendition done by MadMan1701A which looks very similar and quite cool.    


s5.photobucket.com/user/MadMan…

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FactionParadox In reply to bjmaxvin67 [2018-02-24 01:35:12 +0000 UTC]

Wow!  I went to that link on Photobucket.  Amazing Galaxy class re-rendering.  Just awesome!

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bjmaxvin67 In reply to FactionParadox [2018-02-25 01:37:19 +0000 UTC]

I also feel MadMan1701A Galaxy Class Kelvinverse designs like         are awesome. But what also makes it nice is they also resemble  Phaeton99's GALAXY Class Refit Concept 1 . Combining all these designs with elements from Galen82's Proposed Galaxy refit   then I could see Starfleet designing a refit for the Galaxy class after the war with the Dominion.  

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FactionParadox In reply to bjmaxvin67 [2018-02-25 07:14:14 +0000 UTC]

Just AWESOME!!  This is better to me than the actual series design from 1987.  I never liked the oval deflector dish and they even went back to a more round one on the ENTERPRISE "E".  This of course has a round dish, far better to me anyway.

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Undercover-Superhero [2017-02-17 22:26:45 +0000 UTC]

IT's beautiful.

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themikejones1 [2016-01-14 23:36:37 +0000 UTC]

I love this!

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Stargazzer811 [2015-10-09 05:06:12 +0000 UTC]

My god, and instead of creating this the designers for STO gave us the Andromeda. Granted, I like that ships neck better, but what the hell, they didn't look at this first? This is great.    

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ArmamentDawg [2013-04-29 05:15:43 +0000 UTC]

A beautiful design, but considering the many changes necessary- I see few components shared with the standard design- she should be considered a different class instead of a "refit."

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Phaeton99 In reply to ArmamentDawg [2013-04-30 00:28:19 +0000 UTC]

The thought had crossed my mind, even though this was intended to be a major refit on the line of the transformation from TOS Enterprise to TMP. But If I were to go that route, there would be more fundamental changes than the few here.

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Grindmaster58 [2013-01-14 06:43:57 +0000 UTC]

I would have loved to see this in the movies I love the new ship but the Galaxy class has years of service yet also should have seen the Ambassador class refit and original in the jimhidar wars. That would have been awesome to see.

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Phaeton99 In reply to Grindmaster58 [2013-01-14 17:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Too true: the Galaxy class was discarded by the franchise before its time, and we never really got a chance to see what could be done with the ships of the "lost era" like the Ambassador.

But at least Andrew Probert's more elaborate vision of the latter class is getting some fan visualization: [link]

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HandofManos [2012-12-24 09:10:17 +0000 UTC]

Excellent work indeed Phaeton. I do love the more sleeker look of it. Already liked the Galaxy even though it had some awkward parts but your version makes it much better looking.

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Phaeton99 In reply to HandofManos [2012-12-24 17:05:18 +0000 UTC]

Finny how this in many ways is simply a refinement of ideas for improvement I had been toying with 1988.

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HandofManos In reply to Phaeton99 [2012-12-24 17:41:45 +0000 UTC]

hehe sometimes old ideas work out quite well

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Phaeton99 In reply to HandofManos [2012-12-24 18:19:14 +0000 UTC]

And other times one realizes how naively stupid a kid's idea of "cool" is on review.

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HandofManos In reply to Phaeton99 [2012-12-24 21:23:21 +0000 UTC]

heh

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Phaeton99 In reply to HandofManos [2012-12-24 21:44:26 +0000 UTC]

I have actually encountered very few of those, to be honest.

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AKSuperman [2011-12-14 22:09:10 +0000 UTC]

Pretty cool, I've been working on a refit design of my own that is similar.

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Phaeton99 In reply to AKSuperman [2011-12-15 03:38:56 +0000 UTC]

Quite similar, indeed — very similar to my starting point images which were PS modified existing profiles.

Taking those replicated "Sovereign" elements and making them work in a proper multi-view vector schematic is real challenge, of course. I should really return to this concept, now that I have the method better worked out, and see if I can advance it.

But I would have to rebuild it from scratch. The scale of this concept "sketch" is rather wonky.

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AKSuperman In reply to Phaeton99 [2011-12-15 04:01:19 +0000 UTC]

I've got several ideas on how to bring the Galaxy class up to date. Maybe we can work together, share ideas and end up with a credible refit design.

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Phaeton99 In reply to AKSuperman [2011-12-16 03:15:57 +0000 UTC]

I appreciate the offer, but I have quite a few higher-priority projects to complete first. Hopefully, I can return to the refit eventually.

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AKSuperman In reply to Phaeton99 [2011-12-16 18:17:39 +0000 UTC]

No worries. I'll probably work on it here and there. When I'm done, I'll let you know, see what you think. Take care.

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NydusSageRyade [2011-09-24 03:11:13 +0000 UTC]

MORE OF THIS SHIP!!!

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Phaeton99 In reply to NydusSageRyade [2011-09-24 17:30:49 +0000 UTC]

It is possible, given my ever improving skills in digital technical design (funny how it involves relearning drafting techniques all over again), that I will return to it. Though it will have to be from scratch — I look at this rough and see so many problems.... but the concept is still compelling.

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NydusSageRyade In reply to Phaeton99 [2011-09-29 02:14:25 +0000 UTC]

Makes sense. Cant wait to see what that looks like. My suggestion is dont just use the side and top views when you do. This concept is AMAZING. But for a ship, you're going to want to see it from all angles. And for the galaxy, there are quite a few angles on it that look awkward. This general idea may fix that. So I really hope we get to see some updates of this classic soon.

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Phaeton99 In reply to NydusSageRyade [2011-10-02 01:08:53 +0000 UTC]

You may have noticed that my more finished schematics are typically multi-view. O skip it for raw concepts until I am happy with their general direction — saves me the work of reconciling details that aren't finalized.

If I decide to revisit this, it will get the full treatment, I can assure you.

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NydusSageRyade In reply to Phaeton99 [2011-10-05 04:58:34 +0000 UTC]

Yay! ^________^

I truly hope you do. Wonder piece.

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A-Mouse [2011-07-30 09:07:20 +0000 UTC]

o.o Wow. THIS is what should have been done for All Good Things. Anyone doing a 3D model?

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Phaeton99 In reply to A-Mouse [2011-07-30 18:56:51 +0000 UTC]

No one is doing a model, to my knowledge (and I am in no position to attempt it, regardless) — and given the raw character of this concept, it isn't ready for one quite yet.

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sen997 [2011-07-04 07:04:04 +0000 UTC]

this is excellent work. I would love to see a 3D model of this refit. Dude, if they are ever going to make another trek series, based in the effin future after TNG (i hope). 400/500 years, you should really consider sketching for paramount!

Kudos to you!

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Phaeton99 In reply to sen997 [2011-07-14 00:38:33 +0000 UTC]

Excellent? I suppose as the artist, I see far too many issues to be quite that positive about it, but I do appreciate the compliment.

As for Paramount (or CBS, or whoever holds Star Trek's these days) I am not sure I would want to get involved in official productions, given the direction things have gone, design-wise. I am far too critical of "cool for its own sake" concepts.

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Mizzouri [2011-04-04 01:16:00 +0000 UTC]

I am impressed with you art work here. I would like to see the falcon and the upgrade on the nacelles. Please keep up the good work.

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Phaeton99 In reply to Mizzouri [2011-04-06 16:23:31 +0000 UTC]

AS would I and expect that I will come back around to the concept eventually.... but it may be awhile due to other obligations and higher priority projects.

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Luced0 [2009-06-03 22:30:54 +0000 UTC]

it could be posible to house small auxilary nacels for the sacer section inside th ship itself. When the suacer secton separaes it would reveal the nacels that were hosue in the docking portion of the neck.

you could also house the necels on the sides of the suacer but have hem on board and run e length of the suacers outer edge. Much like the defiants nacels.

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Phaeton99 In reply to Luced0 [2009-06-04 00:35:08 +0000 UTC]

So was my initial intention, but the space available is only about 3 desk high at best, and nacelle that would fit seem rather too tiny for such a large mass.

Nonetheless, the Defiant does demonstrate one point: the nacelles need not look conventional. I have considered structures that only reveal themselves to be warp engines by the inboard grills. Cleanly fitting even those into the sleek lines this ship presents remains a trick.

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Luced0 In reply to Phaeton99 [2009-06-05 00:14:53 +0000 UTC]

if the ran the length of the outer msot area of the suacer and were housed internaly. they might be t small to achieve a high wap but it wodl allow civialans or emerganc evacation to warp out of the area.

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Phaeton99 In reply to Luced0 [2009-06-07 18:52:25 +0000 UTC]

I would rather avoid using the saucer rim. It violates certain (if not always enforced) warp nacelle placement rules and grabs areas I would rather not dedicate to engines.

This is what comes from trying to preserve key aspects of an existing design while reworking it....

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