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Description Before I start, I want to say that I do not discriminate against rape victims who choose to abort their child. I am merely putting a spot light on rape victims who did not abort because not many people are aware of the facts and of their stories. Rape is a harsh, sensitive subject, and I did my best to present it in the most accurate way possible. Now read on if it pleases you, and I hope you get something out of it.

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If there is one thing many Pro-Choice supporters are mistaken on, it is that rape victims need an abortion if they are impregnated from their aggressor. In their view, the baby is nothing more than a constant reminder to the victim about the horrible experience she had to endure. However, they never bother to acknowledge the multitudes of women who choose to keep the baby; in doing so, they disrespect these women who went through so much to overcome their trauma while trying to raise an innocent life that had nothing to do with the rape itself. Victims of rape deserve the choice and support needed to give birth to their "curse baby", whether they keep the child or set him/her up for adoption.

Here are some of these strong women and their children who overcame the rape and did not use abortion:

Rebecca Kiessling

Rebecca Wasser Kiessling, an attorney and mother, was adopted as an infant. At age 18 she learned that she had been conceived in a brutal rape at knifepoint by a serial rapist. Kiessling—who appears in FFL’s new ad, titled “Did I deserve the death penalty?”—met her birth mother at age 19.

For the first six years after their reunion, Kiessling’s birth mother maintained that she had wanted an abortion after the rape. She attempted abortion twice at the hands of a back alley abortionist but was prevented each time. “I had already forgiven her for that,” says Kiessling. “But about five years ago, she said she was, in fact, glad that she didn’t abort me.” Kiessling continued, “Now I see it as my mission to help women and unborn children through my law practice.”

Kiessling specializes in family law. In anticipation of motherhood, Kiessling closed her law office and is semi-retired. She now concentrates her legal efforts solely on pro-life cases, including working with pregnancy resource centers.

Kiessling represented a developmentally disabled woman who was raped in a group home. In another case she represented a Michigan woman seeking custody of her five cryopreserved (frozen) embryos. In 1998, she argued on behalf of the unborn child of a 12-year-old rape and incest victim. Sadly, three days after the case was heard the young woman underwent a late term abortion.

An advisory board member of Michigan Nurses for Life, Kiessling is an outspoken advocate for women and children. She has spoken to hundreds of audiences about her experiences, adoption, legal issues and practical alternatives for women and children. She has appeared
on Good Morning, America, CNN’s Talk Back Live, and CBS News. Her story was featured in an August 1999, story in Glamour magazine titled “My Father Was a Rapist.”

From here: www.feministsforlife.org/taf/2…

Lee Ezell and Julie Makimaa

Lee Ezell was raped by a man at work more than 30 years ago. She was just 18, and had never had intercourse. Several weeks later, she was shocked and frightened to learn that she was pregnant. Desperate, she initially considered having an abortion, even though it was illegal. A close friend advised her to go to Mexico, where the procedure was performed. The friend even offered to accompany her, but Ezell could not end the life of her unborn child.

Lacking support at home, her choices were few. After carrying her baby to term, she placed her newborn daughter in an adoptive family. Today, Lee and her birth daughter, Julie Makimaa, are happily reunited (see “You Are My Daughter: An Interview With Julie Makimaa,” page 6). Together Makimaa and Ezell tell their story and offer emotional support to other women who are faced with similar circumstances.

You can read the rest here: www.feministsforlife.org/taf/1…

Shauna Prewitt

Prewitt conceived her child through rape, and was more than happy to keep her new daughter. However, she battles against legislators who support a rapist's right to be a part of the child's life: www.cnn.com/2012/08/22/opinion…

Helen

Helen (who's name had been changed to protect her identity) shares her story of struggle to overcome her post-rape trauma and raise her daughter. It is also interesting to note that although she opposed abortion, she tried to sue her doctor for "malpractice" because he did not give her a strong enough morning after pill:

But she was pregnant. The doctor, who knew that she had been raped, suggested that she have an abortion. So did her parents and her older brother. But since abortion is forbidden by her religion, Helen refused. "I had prepared myself to say no to that," she says. She went to a Catholic organization for counseling. There she was advised to put her baby up for adoption. Everybody, it seemed, knew what was best for her, but Helen was uncertain. "I cried every day I was pregnant," she says. "I kept wondering what to do."

Meanwhile, her sleep was haunted by nightmares about her baby. "One time I had a dream that the baby was going to be very ugly," she says. "Another time I had a dream that it was a very pretty baby, and everybody was trying to take her from me. I woke up in tears. After that dream I felt I would never be able to live with giving up a child for adoption. I knew I couldn't do it.... I'm doing the only thing I could do and still live with myself."

In June 1982 Rebecca was born in Baltimore's Sinai Hospital. "I was expecting an ugly child, a really ugly child," Helen says. "Then she was born and they cleaned her off and they brought her over to my belly and I was able to look at her face. Her eyes were open and she was looking at me. At that moment I knew there was no question in my mind that I was going to keep this child."

Read the whole article here: www.people.com/people/archive/…

Jane Noe

Jane Noe (named changed) is a pro-choice woman, but resisted urging from family and friends to have her baby aborted, and most did not know that she had been raped:

Now, let me just say here that I am pro-choice. I believe that every woman has the right to choose what is best for herself and her baby. I believe that abortion should be legal for the simple reason that if it wasn't, women would find ways to have them anyway. Prohibition didn't work, because people made gin in their bathtub. Making abortion illegal won't work because a woman who really wants one will find a way to have one, often causing the loss of not just her baby but her own death as well.

That belief is fine for women in general, but this was MY baby. I had seen the heartbeat. I was a virgin who hadn't had a period in 9 months and had just been told a year and a half earlier that pregnancy would be impossible. I had been raped. Do you want to be the person to tell me that this child was not a miraculous gift from G-d?

Actually you do, because the whole world did. Okay, that is a slight exaggeration, but it honestly felt that way. I cannot point to one person I know and say, "You thought I should have this baby."

Instead I heard an abundance of "You have one year of college left" and "You have a promising career ahead of you. Why would you want to give it all up for a baby?" You get the idea.

The crusade was on. According to those around me, I had to have an abortion. My grandmother would call me to quote from the Bible about my "bastard" child and what would happen to him. I am still waiting for the stoning.

For a while, even I believed them. Twice I went to the abortion clinic. Twice I left, still pregnant.

When it became too late for an abortion, adoption became the answer that everyone gave me -- even people who were not asked. But I couldn't do that either. I'll admit I considered it. But I could not sign the papers.

Please remember that none of these people knew I had been raped. (Most still don't.) I really wanted to tell my closest friends, my sister, my mother. But it would only have become fuel for their arguments. So I suffered alone. I had horrible nightmares, and still sometimes do, but nobody stood by me.


You can read the whole article here: womensissues.about.com/od/rape…

*EDIT 1/9/2013* Feminists For Life uploaded a small testimony from Analyn Megison.

Love is stronger than fear. I became pregnant due to rape, and I chose to love and raise my child. I thought that I had succeeded in fighting off my rapist despite the fact that my body was wracked with pain and there was blood. I remember the smell of my own blood in that struggle to fight him off like it was yesterday. Later, I learned that I had become pregnant from his attack. Many people pressured me to have an abortion because I was raped, though they called themselves pro-life. From the beginning I had to stand up to those people who would not respect my choice, because I wanted to love and raise my child, not be pushed into any forced adoption arrangement or starved into submission by any individual even as I willingly followed the direction of my physician to preserve and maintain my pregnancy. My child is absolutely worth every moment of this experience I am sharing with you.

Love is stronger than ignorance. “Oh…but every time you look at your child…don’t you think of being raped?” Despite this downright bizarre question I have repeatedly had to endure as a rape-survivor mother, the truth is that every time I look at my child I think of how grateful I am for this love in my heart and the joy of being a mother to someone so beloved to me who is just absolutely wonderful.

In most states in America, rape is the beginning and not the end of the battle. In particular, when women speak up about being raped, the treatment received is often something which can only be compared to a type of misogynist, medieval witch-hunt. Though according to the American Prosecutors Research Institute, 92-98% of rape allegations are true, there remains an expected villainization of a rape survivor who comes forward. (See the National District Attorneys Association website.)

Therefore, it is sad to acknowledge, but not surprising, that there is an absence of legal protections for women who are mothers to these children and who choose to keep and raise them. Some states have no legal protections at all, but there are some that do. At this time, it remains unknown whether any national laws will be put in place to address women who are raising their children conceived from rape, and also for the children themselves. But that is my hope, because my child is absolutely worth it.

Analyn Megison is the co-founder of Hope After Rape Conception whose mission is to assist rape survivor mothers and their children.

From here: www.feministsforlife.org/news/…

Feminists for Life is constantly putting up testimonies of rape victims and other women who are against abortion, so take a gander at their website!

Monica Kelsey

Just when my birthmother started to see some normalcy a few weeks later, she found out she was pregnant with me. She was devastated. She wondered, what will people say? Would she be known as the town slut for a crime she didn’t commit? She told me that this is when she fell into a complete depression. She said she cried for weeks. Then, at the advice of her mother, she found herself at a back-alley abortion clinic. She told me she wanted to “get her life back!” In her mind, if she could make my life go away, then she could go on with her life like nothing had ever happened. So she thought that having an illegal abortion would get her life back to normal.

But after going to the room and sitting on the gurney where my life would be ended, she changed her mind. She left there and never looked back. Her mother hid her from the outside world. When she gave birth to me, she never even looked at me. But she gave me the greatest gift I have ever received. On top of giving me my life, she gave me an amazing adoptive family! For that I am forever grateful.

liveactionnews.org/my-birthfat…

Molly Anne Dutton

Auburn University selected its 100th Miss Homecoming in Molly Anne Dutton this weekend but she almost didn’t win — not because she isn’t an attractive or capable college student but because her mother was raped and she could have been a victim of abortion.

Dutton’s mother, after she was victimized by sexual assault, was given an ultimatum from her husband — have an abortion or face divorce. She chose to keep the baby, leading to a “ridiculously inspirational life story” that many media outlets are noting this week about Dutton...

...This past weekend, the little girl born into those tough circumstances was elected her university’s homecoming queen after running on a platform entirely devoted to adoption advocacy.

“Because that resource was made available to my mother, she decided to give birth to me,” Dutton said. “And here I am talking to you guys 22 years later.”

From here: www.lifenews.com/2013/10/15/au…




Women who regret their abortion after the rape


Mary (name changed for identity safety)

A young woman, whose child was aborted without her consent in 1997 under Ireland’s existing limited provisions for abortion, has told newspapers that she will never be the same after the experience 16 years ago.

The Irish Independent is reporting that “Mary,” who was 13 and in foster care at the time, fell into a spiral of “depression and chaos” after the abortion, which was justified based upon claims that she was suicidal. She is now suing the government for the pain caused by her abortion.

“[F]or me, it has been harder to deal with than the rape. It only really hits you after you have children,” Mary, now 29, told the paper.

“You never forget your missing baby,” she said. “It plays on your mind every day. Any woman who has an abortion and then goes on to become a mother will know all about it afterwards...

www.lifesitenews.com/news/13-y…


Irene Van Der Wende

The abortionist started yelling at me, and I froze…in sheer panic and terror. … With feet in the stirrups, legs tied, and arms outstretched, also tied, I felt like we were sheep about to be slaughtered. Already having gone through rape, this was horrendous. This is what women’s lib thought was okay? I lost consciousness and awoke to now be the mother of a dead baby, a nightmare that would follow me the rest of my life. The pain was horrendous. The women who had been so chirpy at first, were now all groaning and in tears and crying out to God to forgive them, others crying out ‘my baby!’ while others cried that they were so sorry.

liveactionnews.org/the-rape-ex…




I could write a whole book about rape victims who chose to have their babies, whether they set the baby up for adoption or raised the baby themselves. There are so many women out there who make this choice, and endure the vast difficulties with true womanly strength. It's because of these women that we find the truth about the victims of rape, and of their children.

Aborting a child based off of parentage is not equality. It is no better than restricting a child's quality in life based on the social status of the father, or determining that a person should be a slave because his/her parents are slaves. In the end, the aborted unborn child is receiving unequal and unfair treatment because of an act he/she was not the cause of.

Having an abortion will not erase the memory of the rape. It is a life-long trauma that will never disappear, pregnant or not; these women deserve a peaceful support system, not a violent and unequal act forced onto the unborn child. Rape harms the woman, and abortion harms the child; both the woman and the child deserve support, and neither should be denied help.

The true crime against rape victims is the leniency of the assaulter's sentence. While she must seek support and help for her trauma and child, her attacker gets free food, recreational activities, and even a chance at parole! And this goes for all the various kinds of sexual predators! Not to mention, some women may face the challenge of child visitations with the rapist, and must fight against such a thing.

In the end, abortion is a nothing but a violent placebo pill that ignores the true evils against women and equality. We, as a society, must show respect and support for victims of rape and sexual assault, especially when they become pregnant from such acts. We must give real help and justice to women by non-violent means and address the real issues at hand.

Peace be with you.

Sources about rape victims and their children:

Study from Ireland: www.cinews.ie/article.php?arti…
Pregnancy Center from the Democratic Republic of Congo who help victims of rape: www.voanews.com/content/rape-c…
Catholic view on rape victims (they explain how a woman can prevent fertilization with anti-fertility drugs, but can not abort an already fertilized ovum) : catholiceducation.org/articles…

If there are any more sources you think should be up here, feel free to show me!



Resources for victims of rape who become pregnant:

~Generally, any pregnancy center will be able to give you aid. Some may offer special counseling to victims of rape, but it varies from center to center. This is one example of many pregnancy centers that offer support for victims who become pregnant: carolinapregnancycenter.org/te… You can find a pregnancy center near you here: www.optionline.org/get-help

~This link provides info on what do to if you are pregnant from rape and choose to abort, but it also provides info for women who choose to keep their baby: www.pandys.org/articles/rapean…

ALWAYS REPORT A RAPE RIGHT AFTER IT HAPPENS. Do NOT change your clothes, take a shower, etc; you may feel dirty and unclean after the rape, but the legal authorities need physical evidence to help you support your case in court. If desired, wrap yourself in a blanket to feel secure. Then call someone for help right away. When someone you know and trust is with you, contact legal authorities IMMEDIATELY. The sooner you can file a criminal and collect evidence, the sooner you can get help and go onto the road of recovery. Learn more here: www.heartlink.org/directors/re…



Look, this devation got a feature! cbmorrie.deviantart.com/journa… I like how the person claims I was against rape victims who aborted...I guess that same person failed to read the first sentence in the description. Derp.



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Comments: 36

Saiyan4life [2013-01-27 10:33:30 +0000 UTC]

I actually found this by accident searching for comic book character pictures, but I have to say that I agree with you, those women deserve all the support possible and should be acknowledged. Also, why the heck are rapists able to get such leniency. Both parole, and possible child custody, that is not right.

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PieWriter In reply to Saiyan4life [2013-01-28 05:39:16 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment and support. And yes, it's sad and infuriating that rapists are given an easy ride compared to the trauma the victims and their children have to go through. Just shows how hypocritical and unfair the justice system is. If you want to learn more on how to stand up to this, you can visit Feminists for Life (dot) org. They have a lot of resources you may like.

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Saiyan4life In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-28 05:43:00 +0000 UTC]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

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Earthtalon [2013-01-12 18:45:42 +0000 UTC]

So...beautiful!

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PieWriter In reply to Earthtalon [2013-01-13 20:03:38 +0000 UTC]

Thank you!

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Riza-Izumi [2013-01-05 21:24:37 +0000 UTC]

I support rape victims who choose what the fuck they want to do.

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PieWriter In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-07 05:31:43 +0000 UTC]

And I don't support the unnecessary death of an innocent life.

Also, language! I would think your more polite Pro-Choice sisters would shake their heads at your behavior.

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Riza-Izumi In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-08 21:13:55 +0000 UTC]

And it's a fetus, not a child, and us pro-choicers have the right to be angry , after all you pro-lifers are trying to force other what to do and not do with their lives.

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AClockworkKitten In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-03-12 17:17:25 +0000 UTC]

Dude, what the fuck?

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PieWriter In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-26 17:22:07 +0000 UTC]

A fetus still has it's own unique DNA, and is still a growing human being; doesn't that definition fit well with a human child out of the mother's womb?

And you're one to talk. Maybe you should go over what is being forced on millions of unborn human beings per year because of a court decision that even the Roe and Doe women regret being a part of.

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Riza-Izumi In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-28 23:01:05 +0000 UTC]

So does hair and nails.

And maybe you should get over yourself on what you pro-lifers force on other people, forced pregnancy shatters both the parents and the child's lives.

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PieWriter In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-29 00:09:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh gee, I guess equating unique DNA to parts of a human body makes scientific sense to you. I actually listed a couple deviations in my artist's comments that refute illogical claims like that, if you'd care to look.

Forced cutting up and murder of innocent human beings shatters lives as well. I would tell you more about the women who deeply regret their abortion, and how families have suffered because of abortion, but I bet you would shrug it off as pro-life propaganda. Also, I thought it wasn't a child in your eyes? Where's the logic?

This is the last you will hear from me. It is obvious you only want to flaunt your "morally" better opinions to make me and my beliefs look evil and oppressive. I'm sure there are plenty of other forums where you can cuss and make silly statements all you want, so don't feel too bad if I can't give you more argument bait. Have fun.

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Riza-Izumi In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-31 20:42:06 +0000 UTC]

Please, learn the difference between abortion and murder, calling it murder only makes you look stupid. I know that some women regret it, but it's better to regret that, than to regret a child. A fetus isn't a child, but a new born is. And pro-lifers are anti moral. And your beliefs are oppression, forcing someone else to do something he / she doesn't want to do is oppressing. And stop whining about cussing.

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AClockworkKitten In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-03-12 17:27:58 +0000 UTC]

Seriously dude, this is stupid. Do you just search for stuff like this to piss you off and use it as an opportunity to be a bitch? I see you comment on every pro-life deviation on this site. You're obsessed with it.

You're not pro-choice. You freak out whenever somebody shows support for somebody who didn't get an abortion. And as I recall, you think that all teen moms should get an abortion, regardless of how they feel about it. Don't tell me that "they can't make choices. They're too young." Seriously? Sixteen-year-olds aren't so stupid that they don't know what their choices mean. That's not pro-choice, that's pro-abortion, which most people would find creepy and disgusting.

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Riza-Izumi In reply to AClockworkKitten [2013-03-18 22:11:42 +0000 UTC]

And I've never had an abortion so I must hate myself It's her choice not mine, yours or anyone elses. And teens can't decide what person they have a crush on, how can they make a choice to raise a kid? Kid's aren't like kittens.

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AClockworkKitten In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-03-18 22:31:02 +0000 UTC]

Still, I'd lay off on the pro-life stuff if I were you, you're starting to look obsessed.

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Earthtalon In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-12 02:46:36 +0000 UTC]

Yes, but because we have the right to kill people (from their perspective)

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AClockworkKitten In reply to Earthtalon [2013-03-13 01:06:56 +0000 UTC]

Ugh, you're way too nice to her.

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karenjade In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-07 01:47:15 +0000 UTC]

Agreed! How about supporting rape victims no matter what their choice in dealing with a pregnancy?

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Riza-Izumi In reply to karenjade [2013-01-08 21:15:10 +0000 UTC]

That's how I am. A woman how keeps a baby via rape is no better than a woman who aborts her pregnancy that was caused by raped. They're both raped woman, that made a choice they felt was best, why is one better than the other?

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Earthtalon In reply to Riza-Izumi [2013-01-12 02:47:05 +0000 UTC]

Because one person chose the (typically harder) way.

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karenjade In reply to Earthtalon [2013-01-16 02:13:44 +0000 UTC]

What does it matter which way was typically harder? Women who abort rape pregnancies are no less deserving of compassion and understanding without judgement then women who keep them.

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AClockworkKitten In reply to karenjade [2013-03-13 01:07:28 +0000 UTC]

Yep.

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Oswulf [2013-01-03 00:15:32 +0000 UTC]

My best friend would appreciate this, if she were the internets browsing type. She was molested as a girl by a U.S. soldier on tour in Germany. She choose not to liquidate the child. One of her biggest contentions with the popular Church today is that so much effort is poured (as well it should) into preventing infanticide, but no one seems to have counselling prepared for those who do the right thing, only for those that don't. Anyway, thank you for posting this and do keep up the good work, as my friend would say "God will bless you for it."

Dominus tecum!


P.S. In your list of links, the word "feotus" should be spelled "foetus" (U.K. English) or "fetus" (U.S. English.) Not trying to be an asshole, only helpful.

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PieWriter In reply to Oswulf [2013-01-03 02:09:51 +0000 UTC]

No worries! It was probably just a small type that I didn't catch.

And I pray your friend is recovering well from that incident.

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Oswulf In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-03 02:11:57 +0000 UTC]

She's a tough bird. She just needs to realise how tough she is, that's all. But, I think God is moving in our lives in such a way that she is beginning to find her inner strength. Thank you for your prayers, you're a good soul and we need more like yours. May God bless you and keep you!

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PieWriter In reply to Oswulf [2013-01-03 03:06:28 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much! You're words are always encouraging.

Again, let her know she is in my prayers.

And God bless you as well!

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Silent-Koi [2013-01-02 02:06:43 +0000 UTC]

I would almost laugh at this if it wasn't so infuriating. :/ "If there is one thing many Pro-Choice supporters are mistaken on, it is that all rape victims need an abortion if they are impregnated from their aggressor. " That is a lie. The stance on pro-choice is CHOICE. That you have a choice, no matter what the decision is. And when you talk about pro-choicers disrespecting women* that have carried rape children to term, that is a lie also. They support them no matter what they decide, cause it's none of anyone elses business but hers*. Her* body was taken from her* in the first place. Just being in control of her own body again is liberating. She has options. She can terminate, or go through with it. She could keep it, or give it up for adoption. Closed, or open. Its all for her to decide. As a survivor myself, this is really infuriating.

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PieWriter In reply to Silent-Koi [2013-01-02 03:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Excuse you, but I made this to put rape victims who chose life in the spot light because I have not seen any Pro-Choice person, organization, etc who truly showed outright support or encouragement to those women. In fact, while doing my research, the most I saw was Pro-Choice supporters laughing and mocking Christians and other Pro-Life people who suggested that having the baby would be a good thing.

Secondly, I hate the idea of a child being terminated simply because his/her father is a rapist. The reason why I made this deviation was to encourage others to help impregnated victims of rape choose non-violent, humane solutions concerning their unborn child. It's horrible enough the rapist had to take the woman's body without consent; it's even worse when he has to be the cause of an innocent child's death.

P.S. - you're not the only "survivor", so don't try to pull that "I take this personally" card on me. I've been there and done that myself, and it won't sway me at all in my Pro-Life views.

I really do hope that whatever you went through, you are moving on from it and are gaining back your life. I know what it's like, and I know how hard it is. But angrily misinterpreting something I made to be helpful to fellow victims and people who can support them is not going to get you anywhere.

Peace be with you. I pray you let your anger go.

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Silent-Koi In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-02 04:09:13 +0000 UTC]

Never claimed to be the only one but hey, you're already saying a lot of untrue things, why not add some more. Those people you saw mocking Christians, are obviously not part of your church and could care less, which is their right. They dont have to believe in what you do by any means. And if they were laughing at pro-life too, then ignore them, be a big girl, and don't listen to them. It doesn't mean they wouldn't support her choice no matter what.

It's not a child being terminated, it's a fetus. And by no means should a women* be put through nine more months of torture because YOU "hate the idea of a child being terminated simply because his/her father is a rapist". Good, encourage all you want, but don't try to say that a women* that decides to terminate in the situation is a "baby killer" or something stupid.

I have a lot of anger. I do. I have gained my life back as much as I could, but I highly doubt you care about that, since I'm not carrying a fetus to give birth to.

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PieWriter In reply to Silent-Koi [2013-01-03 02:08:38 +0000 UTC]

I'm not an atheist, or a Buddhist, or a Wiccan, so I guess I can make fun of them all I want! And since I'm not Pro-Choice, Pro-Choice people, like you, shouldn't be whining and complaining on my Pro-Life deviations. I love that logic!

Also, I could talk until I'm blue in the face about how a fetus is a living, growing human being with the same rights as any other human (what with all people having a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness), but I doubt you would want to hear it. Not to mention there are links I listed at the end that go over that exact topic, so feel free to check them out.

And trust me, if I didn't care about you, I wouldn't have wasted my limited time online to talk to you. And speaking of "you're already saying a lot of untrue things", maybe you shouldn't shove words into my mouth. Again, letting your anger control is something you shouldn't do.

This is the last you will hear from me in this comment string. It's obvious you are too over-emotional and are only interested in making me and my personal views look anti-woman and monstrous. Unless you are honestly curious about the beliefs of pro-life feminism, I will ignore your future comments.

Peace be with you.

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dancingfoxbird In reply to PieWriter [2013-01-12 05:04:45 +0000 UTC]

Why do you belief a fetus has the same rights as human that has been born or will be in two weeks?

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MountainLygon [2012-12-30 01:11:43 +0000 UTC]

That was beautiful. I have a good friend who was perfectly prepared to give birth to a child of rape. Unfortunately health issues caused her to miscarry. Nonetheless, she did not see her child as a curse. When she miscarried, she mourned as a mother should.

I am a firm believer in the rainbow after the storm; the flowers after the fire. The phoenix, which rises from the ashes in full splendor and beauty. There exist no type of human being on this planet who better encapsulates the idea of life from death or joy from sorrow than a child of rape. I can think of no better form of healing for such a tragedy than the bringing forth of a new life, primed to become far better than the generation before. It's almost a shame that only one in 1,000 rape victims are blessed with such a complete healing in a little blue or pink-clad package. And it's downright tragic that the rest of the world would try and deny those lucky few women that healing.

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PieWriter In reply to MountainLygon [2012-12-30 04:14:07 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your lovely comment. Someday, I hope many more women, especially victims of rape, will choose non-violent methods to cope with their trauma, and that more people will support them.

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drigulch [2012-12-29 20:08:55 +0000 UTC]

We repeatedly demonstrate out extremely bizarre inclination to dictate to a woman, any woman what she ought to do with her own body, mind, and soul. Particularly in so very devastating a situation as the act of rape in its aftermath when what she needs is support for her own decisions, whatever they may be, rather than bad advice and rejection on setting and following her own course in life. Lets hope that we can all get to the place where we support women in the best and worst times, and abide by their personal decisions on how to live life.

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Twilightlover2007 [2012-12-29 07:32:23 +0000 UTC]

My friend chose to have her little girl even though she was raped. Her daughter, my Godbaby, just turned 2 years old today. That little angel is the light in her life, the best thing that ever happened to her. She says she wouldn't ever do anything over again, she loves her daughter with all of her heart, she doesn't see her daughter as a 'rape child' she sees her daughter as HER child.

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