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Plasma-dragon β Enthusiastic Consent
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Published: 2015-07-04 19:42:39 +0000 UTC; Views: 70529; Favourites: 691; Downloads: 1259
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A quickie showing Takenta in her submissive pose and simply happy to be there.Mounts soapbox
One of the things that reallyΒ appeals to me when it comes to kink is the concept of consent. It doesn't matter how much it appeals to my other fetishes, if the people involved aren't ultimately enjoying what's going on (Even underneath a waterfall of tears) then I'm just not interested and in many cases positively repulsed, a number of times I've stumbled across pictures here on dA where I genuinely worry about the person making the images and also of what they're promoting because of the gleeful depictions of rape and even murder like it's supposed to be a turn on. Yes I know this is hypocritical considering some of the works I've done and submitted here, but I'd like to think that it's fairly obvious that I'm not trying to glorify genuine cases of kidnapping and other non-consensual bondage.
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Granted the paramount need for full consent with real-life partners, as far as fantasy is concerned (and ideally granted some acting ability on the part of said partners) I prefer depictions of Damsels in Distress, so that there is some kind of dramatic tension, albeit the mildest of distress - mild apprehension is about it. I don't really grasp what the point of the chain, collar and cuffs is here.
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The point of them? They're not necessary, true, she'd kneel there anyway. But the chain makes her feel safer.
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I agree your base point except that it's very difficult to draw that a Sub has a safe word but hasn't used it.
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Well, she certainly looks happy to be there. Β
As Someone who sometimes enjoys looking at drowning DiD, (and has made a couple asphyxia pics) its really sexy to look at for what ever reason, yet extremely important to remember that this is not to be done in real life, as it is very dangerous to your partner. Β As for genuine kidnapping and rape, well that's never okay, and drawn pictures should just be simply depictions of a fantasy, not a desire for reality or advertisement of misogyny.
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Really? I've done breathplay before. Unless you're talking about them actually dying, in which case.... eeeeeeehhh squick.
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Nah, actually dying isn't good at all. Β Shoot, I forgot the point I was trying to make last night...
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For the drawing itself: Thumbs up!
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I think you're conflating "consent" with "acceptance and enjoyment" here. What we are actually seeing in your drawing is Takenta's acceptance and enjoyment of her chaining. Her consent is something in the backstory, or something deduced. In the real world, of course, consent is vital. Attempting to get acceptance and enjoyment without consent is - at best - a game of Russian Roulette played with five chambers loaded out of six. But in fictional and fantasy scenarios we can handwave away that need for consent.
In fact, waving away various real-world constraints such as the need for consent is a major reason for fantasy and fiction to exist. Like you, I'm really bothered by those artworks and stories that gleefully depict various horrors and cruelties with the intent of them being a turn-on. However, what bugs me isn't the non-consent per se, but the way non-consent is used to spice up the horror of the scenario for "teh sexy." I'm perfectly fine with non-consent used to spice up kinky scenarios where the victim finds it pleasant and enjoyable, despite the lack of anything that would pass muster as real-world consent. In fact, I'd much rather have a fantasy story about women who cheerfully accept and enjoy their bondage in setting where they have no choice but to be slaves, than a story about a woman in an entirely consensual scenario that's designed to produce that waterfall of tears you mentioned.
One of the things that really appeals to me when it comes to kink is the idea of the "victim" finding her predicament to be pleasant and enjoyable. Whether she agreed to it or not is a side issue: A necessary one in a real-world scenario, but optional in fantasy and fiction.Β
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But there's a marked difference in tone between telling a kidnapping tale, and painting a positively woman-hating scenario. I've seen people fantasising and fetishising about prison for feminists with guards abusing them for amusement and without remorse, with the focus soley on their enjoyment and not the victim's torment. That's one example, and it just gives an impression that the person making the images isn't healthy in the head.
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I think we're in violent agreement here about the difference in tone. It's just that I don't think "consent" is the right word to describe that difference.
I don't count it as "consent" if the woman doesn't agree up front but only comes to accept the situation and forgive the captor after being taken into captivity. Or even if she is happy, in retrospect, that it happened. Or if she is born into slavery and accepts that as the normal course of events while being glad that the has a good master. On the other hand, Marci signing up to join the Hostage Corps fav.me/d4pxdtv is consent. But the tone is the same as those non-consent examples - and very different from the tone of those "remorseless abuse" stories and artwork that we both find so disagreeable.Β
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Even then, being born into slavery rubs me up the wrong way. Because then it removes informed consent and adds in obvious indoctrination and Stockholm syndrome.Β
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I think you misread me: I used being born into slavery as an example of something that I DO NOT count as "consent."
Likewise a kidnapping tale where the victim comes to enjoy her captivity and love her captor is something I DO NOT count as consent - and that also has those Stockholm syndrome and indoctrination issues.
Or are you making a three-part distinction? Something along the lines of "(1) Consent which has the advantage of working in the real world as well as in fiction, (2) non-consent but with a fictional/fantasy handwave to make the story happy anyway, and (3) non-consent used in tales of gleefully remorseless torment of unhappy women"?
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Yes, more like that three way model. 1 is always okay, 2 isn't okay in reality, but be careful in your presentation in fantasy, 3 can go fuck itself.
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An enthusiastic smile as she have make her cute, adorable and certainly a source of fetish.Β Β
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Oh there are people with some disturbing interests out there.
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But of all of them, it's the straight-up woman hating ones that get me.
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They can't be the ONLY people who worry you. Some people are just dicks.
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True, and dealing with them sucks too.
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People are like that.
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Enthusiastic consent is such a great concept. There really should not be any room for doubt on if the other party wants to be doing something.
Also, very cute image.
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Safe, sane, and consensual!
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So, stuff like this and this will legitimately turn you on (since the girl is actually liking what's happening to her)?
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No, because pokemon is full of children. That's just weird to fetishise.Β
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