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Takogami In reply to ??? [2019-07-18 23:12:55 +0000 UTC]
That what? Black people have a pass to be racist to white because they're oppressed? Even to the white slaves who were from Ireland?
You can't exactly fight racism with racism. I'm Asian and my history we were oppressed by Spanish for 300 years. I don't go around calling them slavers
just because of what their ancestors did.
That's like generalising all black people are nothing but thieves and single parents and white people are school shooters and cracks. Are you a school shooter and a crackhead?
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remuko In reply to Takogami [2019-07-19 15:39:50 +0000 UTC]
The Irish werent slaves, not the way that black people were in the US.
Good thing its not racism!
Being oppressed and being enslaved are not the same thing. If they didnt have your people enslaved then of course you wouldnt call them slavers, but if they did then, yeah they are.
No I'm not, but those are just stereotypes which tend to be offensive (even positive ones) and many of them are overtly racist.
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JunNoAce In reply to ??? [2019-07-13 01:25:43 +0000 UTC]
There is no "REQUIREMENT that it has to be systematic oppression. If someone treated my mother with disrespect or even attacked her because of the color of her white skin, they are racist. When i read a comment from a person on twitter saying "How bad does your life need to be for a black person to want to marry and have children with a white person?" THAT IS RACIST! (yes someone actually said that)
Being hateful of ANY RACE is racism. There is no exceptions. Saying that white people cannot be victims of racism is a great form of discrimination and in itself is actually pretty damn racist.
Your free to not believe me. But this is just one of my biggest peeves and I find it very oppressive to people who have nothing to do with their ancestry or their countries history.
What about Jews? Not only did they deal with racism against other white people the Germans, they also according to history they were Slaves in Egypt from 200 - 400 years. When compared to the African American slaves of a bit over 100 years I feel the Jews are also victims of "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior." - Dictionary
This mind set is not helping our country. In order to stop racism we need to treat everyone EQUALLY with respect no matter their race, gender, sexual orientation, or religion.
I'm very passionate about this because all my life i felt like I was never white or black. and as i got older and I noticed that blacks and whites had this issue in our country I didn't understand why until i matured. Now it just gives me a heavy heart when i see either side treat the other with any hate or disrespect and would often cry for them.
Sorry for the long speech. I know most people these days don't want open discussion or to have their minds changed from what they have conformed to already. If you still disagree feel free to dire guard my message. I just hope that you wont treat modern day as if blacks are still slaves today. We aren't. There are plenty of black people with fantastic jobs and are privileged and well off, because either they or their parents, or grand parents worked REALLY hard to make their families well off. I'm envious and hope i can take advantage of our capitalist country and make my family secure as well for their futures.
Sorry again and have a pleasant day.
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Takogami In reply to JunNoAce [2019-07-15 19:26:01 +0000 UTC]
Forget about her. She clearly doesn’t know what she’s talking about. She also forgot about the irish who are WHITE and were even in the same level as blacks before. I’ve seen racist black people call white people “cracks” or “ash”. How is this different from racist white people calling them “negro”?
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JunNoAce In reply to Takogami [2019-07-16 20:11:23 +0000 UTC]
Don't let any more EXTREME leftists hear you say that. They will go on about the racial history behind the term. but honestly its all just crappy name calling that's been around for years.
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Takogami In reply to JunNoAce [2019-07-18 23:14:23 +0000 UTC]
And they wonder why the other party doesn't like them...
What they're just doing is demeaning the fight the ACTUAL good progressives are doing.
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antcow In reply to ??? [2019-07-10 16:24:25 +0000 UTC]
The story of Ariel is dutch in origin, so yeah, shes a white mermaid.
Go ahead and suggest that T'challa, Black panther should be played by a white guy and just watch
the reactions XD
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Insanepayne In reply to antcow [2019-07-14 19:36:53 +0000 UTC]
Oh never, have mercy. I'm already a racist for asking why Ariel is black, one more strike and I'm a full-blown white-supremacist/nazi
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antcow In reply to Insanepayne [2019-07-14 19:43:03 +0000 UTC]
I piss people off by egging them on after they call me a hitler or a Nazi.
Like, what kind of hitler/Nazi am I? Space or time traveling kind or ordinary brown shirt?
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Dropthepizza In reply to antcow [2019-07-10 17:26:01 +0000 UTC]
She is is actually a danish Story,written by the famed Danish Author Hans Christian Andersen,so her origins are even more steeped in "White" Culture.
Now the Disney movie of course took some liberties and made its own thing but it doesn't Justify the hypocracy of those "progressives" who blindly support this blatant replacement of a red headed white icon.
After all Disney Claimed its new movies would "respect" the culture of each each setting,"Updating to them with modern Progressive values" and in that vein they went out their way to make the Cast of Aladdin and apparently now Mulan(as well as most of the voice actors of the new Lion king Movie) "people of Color",casting almsot entirely Asian actors,yet that wasn't good enough. The same people mindlessly praising the appropriation of A white red headed Character were the same ones who were completely raged that a white prince character a small role as a suitor for Jasmine,as if the existence of a white character in Arabia was some sort of attack,of course they had no problem with Black characters in 1700 France in Beauty and the Beast. These are also the same people who bullied and sent threats to a child actress for playing the white daughter of Tony Stark in the MCU,demanding that Tony's daughter be played by a black actress and the same people who were outraged that the "Ancient one" was played by a white women instead of an Asian in Doctor Strange. This is of course not even getting into the black washing of dozens of established white, red headed charters like Jimmy Oslen,Mary Jane,Star Fire,Black Canary,Hawk Girl,Tress Merigold,April O Niel,Wally West and dozens of other established red headed White Charterers in media,Shows,and comics. Even Historical mythos characters like Achilles,Zeus,Friar Tuck and Guinevere(also a red head who name means Beautiful White) were played by black actors in Netflix shows and the Like.
Its totally blatant Hypocrisy,Those on the "Progressive" side can do anything they want and defame,threaten ,demand and bully companies and actors to black wash and the media and art communities just support them totally but when people including black and Asians complain about these outright appropriation of beloved Characters for Woke points,they,inducing the black and Asian people are called Racists,Trolls,Haters,White Supremacist and backward Idiots by those "progressives" who get triggered if a video game about medieval Europe doesn't have a black women Queen.
Now I have no Problem casting appropriate Ethnic character for a Movie or even making some Characters race change if their actors skill fits (like Nick Fury) but records show that Disney initially considered casting a red headed girl but influence from "woke" actors made them chose the actress they did who is a new actor with little to no experience in movies so the only reason she was cast was because of her race. To me all these live action Disney movies are soulless cash grabs playing with nostalgia with a chance for Disney to gain brownie points with "progressives" but while a mere cash grab for Disney,these movies will bring consequences. Now that there is a black Ariel what will happen to the red Headed Ariel? You know the same people claiming her race change is great and wonderful will be the ones demanding she only be depicted as a black girl now. That depiction of her as she was for 30 years will be racist and rejecting the dignity of the black actress. I wouldn't be surprised if in Disneyland and all its shows and books began phasing out Red head Ariel in favor of the new depiction all to appease a Mob of hypocritical,racists,authoritarians that are our current Progressive moment.
As for the Art itself,It is well drawn and beautiful out of Context and Would I gladly favorite it were it not for in Context,it being the Appropriation of a Beloved Icon by a soulless mega corporation at the behest of Racists.
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antcow In reply to Dropthepizza [2019-07-10 18:07:19 +0000 UTC]
Danish? I thought Dutch.
But yah, Disney is hypocritic in this matter.
Its racist for white people to "Culturally appropriate" tacos and hair?
But its ok to do the same to white people?
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Kelestria In reply to antcow [2019-07-10 19:44:04 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is Danish. Go on Youtube look up "Little Mermaid Anime" and you should get...a rather bad quality as it is old anime from I think the 70's or 80's of the actual true story. Disney...Disney-fied it lol. It's a very sad story.
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antcow In reply to Kelestria [2019-07-11 08:32:26 +0000 UTC]
Ive heard of that.
Speaking of, most of Disneys biggest stories are based on
horrible originals.
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arianja In reply to ??? [2019-07-10 10:38:50 +0000 UTC]
I love this! I don't understand the fuss about the new Ariel being black, it's not like the old one will just disappear. Both are beautiful and both deserve a chance to make little girls feel good about themselves, redheaded Ariel already changed red hair from being something to tease about to being something considered beautiful and I think black girls deserve the same, heck ALL people deserve the same.
Beautiful artwork as always.
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Mate397 In reply to arianja [2019-07-13 05:59:58 +0000 UTC]
It's called pandering for profit and it will try to retcon the past with this live action remake wanting to replace the past version with this one 1984 style. Creating original characters would be perfectly fine, there are plenty of stories from Africa as material but nope gotta race swap to be "woke"
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arianja In reply to Mate397 [2019-07-13 15:08:55 +0000 UTC]
I definitely get that, but they can't truly erase the old one. I would however agree that new stories sound way better than race swap, I mean a whole continent can't be without some really good ones!
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Mate397 In reply to arianja [2019-07-13 17:55:28 +0000 UTC]
They will still do their best to try, but as long as there are people with a working brain the originals will never be fading away.
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Rogueshadow74 In reply to ??? [2019-07-10 08:08:09 +0000 UTC]
So clever! Passing of the baton
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urdnot123 In reply to ??? [2019-07-10 04:01:30 +0000 UTC]
So white washing is wrong, but black washing is perfectly fine? Typical.
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Mate397 In reply to remuko [2019-07-13 06:01:45 +0000 UTC]
Yes it is, look at the Dark Tower movie, the main character was a white man and him being white actually played into the plot when he encountered a black woman who had split personalities one of which was a racist that wanted to kill him. Do some research.
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remuko In reply to Mate397 [2019-07-13 15:33:20 +0000 UTC]
thats a movie based on a book series. thats not real life.
someone being white can be important to the plot/character and in such a case changing it probably isnt the best idea, like say Merida from Brave. Ariel's skin color is 100% irrelevant to her character and story.
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Mate397 In reply to remuko [2019-07-13 17:53:52 +0000 UTC]
But if I were to make a white black panter idiots like you would go insane and screech about white washing, but destroying a story from a white nation is okay in your twisted racist mind. You are a sorry excuse of a human being and I really hope you don't have kids that would get brainwashed by your idiocy.
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remuko In reply to Mate397 [2019-07-14 15:45:51 +0000 UTC]
Because thats entirely different lol and only a racist wouldnt see that. Changing the skin color of a mermaid doesnt "destroy a story from a white nation" lmao.
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Mate397 In reply to remuko [2019-07-15 00:03:33 +0000 UTC]
Alright fuckwad, I'm done with you since you are clearly a low IQ sheep. As parting words, here's a black gentleman telling you what I have been just so you can see how WRONG YOU ARE.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhKFv9…
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LadyLuck1986 In reply to remuko [2019-07-12 11:51:54 +0000 UTC]
Blackwashing is a thing!!! Almost Every redhead character in tv/movies been change to a black character, there’s multiple examples of that!!! Stop with your BS!
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remuko In reply to LadyLuck1986 [2019-07-12 15:46:32 +0000 UTC]
its not a thing. white people arent oppressed. "white" isnt a culture. it can be washed away by being changed.
redheads are not an oppressed minority. Black people are. Keep crying
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Mate397 In reply to remuko [2019-07-13 06:02:31 +0000 UTC]
Wow really? White culture is one of the richest and most diverse on the planet, morons like you are white hating racists nothing more.
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remuko In reply to Mate397 [2019-07-13 15:31:06 +0000 UTC]
Lmao no its not. Theres no such thing as "white culture". There is Irish Culture, or German Culture etc. Groups can have culture and be white but their culture isnt their whiteness. Wait actually white does have a culture of colonialism and slavery, so I guess there's that? Its not something to be proud of though, lol
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Mate397 In reply to remuko [2019-07-13 17:51:58 +0000 UTC]
Holy fucking shit you are moronic, a fuckin white guilt driven idiot so drenched into identity politics it's pathetic...I guess history and all those nations with different cultures don't count huh? Also neither colonialism or slavery was uniqe to whites EVERYONE on the planet did it. *cough* Persians, Ottoman, Mongols etc.
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LadyLuck1986 In reply to remuko [2019-07-12 19:22:30 +0000 UTC]
It’s obvious you’re trolling!!! White redheads are even bigger minorities than black people so stop trolling! Your comments are embarrassing!
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urdnot123 In reply to remuko [2019-07-10 17:36:37 +0000 UTC]
Yup, white racism is totally fine to you freaks. That's why you're gonna lose again in 2020.
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DisneyFreak1988 In reply to urdnot123 [2019-07-10 10:51:04 +0000 UTC]
exactly it dont make sense xx
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urdnot123 In reply to DisneyFreak1988 [2019-07-10 17:37:31 +0000 UTC]
Interesting they didn't make the new Mulan a blonde, right? Lol
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DisneyFreak1988 In reply to urdnot123 [2019-07-10 17:46:31 +0000 UTC]
all the others are too their original films...this should be no different its basic Tokenism, from spiderman to annie, all redheads are replaced. Tokenism for the sake of profits is wrong and racist, make new characters to represent other cultures rather than been lazy to please the minority.
Disney seriously need new ideas xx
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urdnot123 In reply to DisneyFreak1988 [2019-07-12 05:48:11 +0000 UTC]
I couldn't agree more. People don't realize how shit-on redheads get.
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JasonBall34 In reply to urdnot123 [2019-07-10 08:59:02 +0000 UTC]
They're both completely fine, that's why Hollywood does it all the time.
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urdnot123 In reply to JasonBall34 [2019-07-10 17:42:02 +0000 UTC]
Hollywood is a shithole run by pedophiles and sex offenders.
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remuko In reply to ModelOmegaTyler [2019-07-10 15:42:28 +0000 UTC]
live action little mermaid just cast Ariel as a black woman named Halle Bailey. Shes adorable and youthful and a singer. She's perfect but everyone just cares about her skin color because their racist like the other person who replied to you.
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ModelOmegaTyler In reply to remuko [2019-07-10 18:06:49 +0000 UTC]
.... okay, wtf is with disney's idiotic live action versions of animated movies? and why would the rename ariel? also, considering none of the other live action remakes changed the races/skin-color/whatever-you're-complaining-about-the-other-person-doing i think it's more of a commentary on that
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