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Do what you want with it here: weknowmemes.com/generator/memeβ¦The meme is a response to this stamp: vertekins.deviantart.com/art/Sβ¦
The reasons stated are so blatantly stupid that I really don't need to point it out to anyone with a brain that the stamp was just another OP for the user to senselessly complain about a long gone cartoon, and I think it's just because people still praise it(for good reason though), hence the "overrated" statement.
(There is zilch that is even vaguely original or exceptional concerning his villainy and evilness compared to other saturday morning cartoon villains. And villains of his type are so overdone that nowadays, they're prone to parody.)
Yeah, maybe it's because that's what Villains are made to do, be evil. XD
Let's not forget he's one of the few who actually succeeded in his ambition, he just had Sonic to deal with all after the fact. Screw the haters, his praises are well warranted.
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My profile picture has nothing to do with this so congratulations on amounting to nothing. Plus, you sure are one to talk when you have jack shit on your profile (with the exception of the shitty "battle of the designs" pics).
1. Well, you included perfection on your list so I'm using it... again, common sense.
3. Doesn't matter though because there would be no pain or suffering. You'd have a perfect brain so think of something to do.
4. So............. for using common sense.... I'm the scumbag? Sir, what the flying fuck is wrong with you ?
6. Like I said though: When YOU DIE, DON'T COMPLAIN then.
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i'm blocking you i am tired of talking to some freak goodbyeΒ
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I had no idea about that. The gay pride jumpsuit comment actually made me laugh... but yeah, it goes to show how biased the guy is. If anything, I equally like both designs, but you pretty much hit the nail on the head when it comes to characteristics, which is why SATAM robonick is superior to most other versions of him, the only one that can even be called his equal is the archie comic version, the only cool content we have left, and doesn't treat the franchise like a joke.
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Thank you sir; I'm glad I could unintentionally shed light on this guy for you 
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Thanks man, and it's also good seeing another DA member who has their common sense to.
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I am confused by his logic. It's like me saying super isn't a good super hero because I find his design boring, which I do, but it doesn't have anything to do with his heroics. At the same time, Batman isn't a good hero because of the way he looks, but while that one reason many may like him, again, has nothing to do with his heroics.
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Exactly . In this guy's head; fashion sense = determination of villain's status .
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That's Damn Straight, This Robotnik is the best version of Him by far.
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Actually, I find his SatAM counterpart to be some stereotypical Saturday morning villain who's just some lazy fuck who just sits on his ass, and watches his plans fail, and throws a bitchfit when they do.. Not only that, but they do nothing to ensure that the plan doesn't fail.. Say what you will about AoStH Robotnik, Underground Robotnik, or even the game counterpart, but at least when they sense that their plans may go wrong at some point of the story, they take care of the problem themselves (i.e. Stop stroking that chicken, and fix the problem), while SatAM Robotnik just does nothing, but let his plans fail and wonder what the problem was..
AoStH, UG, and Game Robotnik: I've tried to destroy that hedgehog with my best efforts, and he foiled my scheme! I'll try something else!
SatAM Robotnik: My plan didn't work? Well shit! Better try again!
Even Ruby-Spears Doctor Wily wasn't a victim of this!
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"Actually, I find his SatAM counterpart to be some stereotypical Saturday morning villain who's just some lazy fuck who just sits on his ass"
He already took over, he didn't need to get up. Plus, that doesn't make him a bad villain, and this in itself is just nitpicking something out to be bad for no good reason. Say what you will about the other versions, the SATAM robotnick was the most successful, and most threatening, the AOSTH was a clown, the game version was turned into a clown, UG had a nice balance, and the archie version has the same balance but it made even greater.
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1. And yet you completely ignore Ruby-Spears Dr. Wily? And Eggman being a clown in the games? Look at games like Sonic Colours where he commits Alien Genocide, or in Sonic Generations where he almost completely destroys the fabric of time to undo his previous defeats.. Or in Lost World... Where he contemplated genocide, and threatens a villain (In this case, a group of villains), and breaks ice stronger than graphite? Or in Unleashed, where he splits a planet into pieces, killing hundreds, among thousands of people, and causing a tsunami..? Still think he's a pure clown?
2. Also, really? Do I have to bring Doctor Wily up again?
3. SatAM Robotnik being the most threatening... If you're talking about his voice, then maybe... As a villain, not even that intimidating.. Hell, my nephew wasn't even that scared, a 4-year-old, no less..
4. Again, at least AoStH Robotnik actually tries when Sonic foils his plans, and tries other methods (Again, like Ruby-Spears Dr. Wily..)
5. Archie Robotnik would really kill thousands of people to achieve his goals like in the games? I find that hard to believe...
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1. Who gives a shit about Dr.Wily? In any case, Sonic Colors was presented too kiddy to take any consideration into the parts that might have been good had the rest of the story been written well. You also seem to ignore this to say that Eggman killed thousands of people in unleashed, when it wasn't even brought up, and you also ignore how he was getting into his clown phase in this game.
2. You can, but I don't give a shit about Wily.
3. Because already taking control and winning before the freedom fighters came up is not threatening. Wow, you're using your own dislike to discredit his achievements and it's just grasping at this point.
4. AoSTH Robotnik was a clown. End of story.
5. You missed the part where i said game eggman was TURNED INTO A CLOWN. Even then, archie Eggman not only succeeded in conquering his own universe before crossing over, he actually did leave mobians in the egg grapes long enough to be killed off.
and seriously dude,you're here trying to prove to me how badass game eggman is, but I can see you have to completely ignore how much of a clown he is to over blow his actions in the games, that were barely called on. At least Choas actually flooded a populated city, so it could at least be a safe bet to say he killed many people, and didn't sugar coat the entire game about it, like Unleashed and especially Lost World, but since he "contemplated genocide" or these little small tidbits you can overblow, I'm suppose to act like he's not being a total clown. Get real.
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1. Either watch the Ruby-Spears Megaman cartoon, play some Megaman games, or read the Mega-Manga..
2. Oh, it was brought to my attention that you think Robotnik in the games is just for laughs..
3. Again.. Unleashed...
4. Before the Freedom Fighters were even born? That's supposed to make him intimidating? Taking over a place before a group of anthro teens can step threatening.. By that logic, Sigma is a damn awesome villain, right?
5. AoStH Robotnik was a clown? Least he actually does something... And has much more depth..
6. Robotnik has succeeded time and again.. Once again, play Sonic Unleashed through to the end, or even play Sonic Advance 3, or Sonic Battle! Oh yeah, how 'bout Sonic Chronicles? And besides, I prefer the games Robotnik because he has much more depth to him.. From what I can tell, you choose to not even think over Robotnik's actions in the games, and the end results of each of them.. (Keywords: Think it over.) Unleashed most certainly didn't sugar-coat it if you had the thing called an instruction manual (At least the Japanese version, or the English PAL version.. Both of which I happen to own..) And from Sonic Chronicles, it's concept of Roboticization is much darker than in SatAM, as it states that Roboticizing a living thing would kill it. Also, if he plans to turn Station Square into rubble, and launch a missile into a populated city (Even though it was a dud..), and blow up an island full of GUN soldiers, or even try multiple times to kill Sonic and his friends with a weapon (SA2, Sonic Riders, and Lost World), it's a safe bet that Robotnik has done more harm than SatAM Robotnik, since Roboticization in SatAM still leaves the organism alive, he hasn't really killed anyone (Or even tried to), and Robotnik just seems like a harmless drone in SatAM, compared to how he is in a good percent of the games.. Hell, In Sonic Jam, the short "Man of the Year" has Robotnik's plan actually succeed, and in Unleashed, he finally builds Eggmanland. I'd take a character with more depth, development, and more motivation than a stereotypical Saturday morning villain. Any villain as awesome as say, Neo Cortex, or Doctor Wily are more evil..
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In my opinion I think the Game counterpart in more entertaining but hey that's just me.Β
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I really think it's just the fact that he's more animated, but that alone wont win me over if the humor is moronic is hell. They've basically turned Eggman into a clown since Unleashed. The comics at least have him be entertaining sometimes without going as far.
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Understandable but I feel that he's at hi best when both funny and serious not just one or the other.Β
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With that being said, the game version of Eggman is now on the other side of the spectrum of the SATAM one. Even then, history points to serious and more engaging media tends to be favored over just plain funny, at least for movies and most popular. While I will take SATAM robotnik over game Eggman, the comics at least get the balance down right.
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True but honestly I dislike the whole him having a robot to replace him or whatever the comics did with that stuff.
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Maybe, but personally wise, they got him down a lot better then in the games. Even then, the original Robotnik was killed off back in issue 50 anyway, probably due to the uncertainty of the comics getting their license renewed, but ended up getting some time later. In any case, like it or not, they gotta do something.
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Agreed. SatAM Robotnik (no "c" in "Robotnik" btw; title 
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(no "c" in "Robotnik" btw; title )
Excuse me as I go find my head. XD
But yeah, you're on point with everything. I can't see how that doesn't count for anything just because "he's just like every other villain". That's what their suppose to do, be evil!Β At least the Robotnik succeeded in taking over, he just had the freedom fighters to deal with.
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Yup. I don't mind him being a little silly or a "balance", but sometimes, unlike recent outings, best not to overdo it or else the villain won't be taken seriously....or at least taken seriously enough.
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True that. Thankfully the comics still has a good portrayal of him. He can be comical but still taken as a serious threat.
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And what's wrong with a balance? Or "it's too hard"? Or "too expensive"? Or both?
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Sega of Japan is too busy being Nintendo drones, and the fans their trying to please are Nintendo drones. Sonic Lost Mind is all the proof you need.
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Lost World. I'm kinda "meh" about it, to be honest. Nothing surprised me.
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The point is, Sega's trying so hard to do what the loudmouth fans want, but many of them are hardcore Nintendo fans(and many bronies to), and many of them bash or ignore the rest of the gaming industry for only Nintendo IP's, not to mention even Sega employees are Nintendo fans. This is the reason when there's no balance, it's all about trying to be light hearted. You can see that influence from this article: kotaku.com/5336675/sega-impossβ¦
Overall, I think the title is only have true, you can't please everyone, with one game. Sega problem is that they are only trying to please 1 set of fans, and ignoring all the others, as they've been doing nothing but classic rehashes and kiddy humor since Colors, and that humor is still showing up in Boom as well. This is even worse then trying to be edgy, because Sonic was edgy in the first place, but making him so light is not only alienating many fans, but turning away potential fans as well. Then the fanboys will tell you that "It's for kids anyway", forgetting that their off playing games like GTA and COD.
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Good point, though I see no reason to alienate the rest of the fans, regardless if they're part of the demographic or not. At least with "Generations", they did listen to the "good" side of the fanbase for once. And although the story was lacking, the gameplay showed effort. As for Kotaku, I....tend to stay away from it, given the recent controversy that's still on-going.
A franchise cannot be pleased with only one side of the fanbase pleased. It's ironic that the majority of fanbrats who love "modern Sonic" but despise "classic Sonic" & anything else claim "classic fans" do not "accept change" yet when something new arises with a new Sonic game, guess what's the first thing they do? Complain that it's "different". Now who doesn't want change now?
You're not a "hardcore" gamer if you ONLY play GTA & COD (I do play GTA but I do branch out, though I don't play COD due to it being severely overrated). A gamer has variety, which is also something Sonic needs. So what if the comics have characters (cartoons too) that people despise (save for Sonic X since Chris was the main character), doesn't mean they have no right to exist. Oh crap, I just burned myself.
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I really think generations is just Sega on their own with that one, but I don't got much to go on. I do have a point on the rest of what you said though, and even cheaper digital games have more content then that game. About Kotaku, I don't frequent there myself, but someone made a really good Sonic related article there some time ago. If not anything else, I would recommend giving it a read. kotaku.com/a-look-inside-the-sβ¦
Good points here as well. The funny thing about this is that I know Sega is capable of pleasing multiple groups of fans, cause they were able to do it when the game first went 3D and the Advance titles were being made at the exact same time. And yeah, the fanboys seem to use any argument they can when it's convenient, they even blamed kids for Sonic downfall because Sega reported they liked Unleashed, but now that Colors came out, them niggas got brand new and started saying how Sonic was for kids, despite kids wanting the serie sto be more serious.
About being hardcore, as for me personally, I use it only because I play a lot of videos game, for more then the amount of time the average person has, I have many games, all 3 consoles from the last 2 gens, I even got an Ouya, PSVita, 3DS, and I got many games on Steam. The term "hardcore gamer" gets skewed quite a bit though. You can be hardcore for only playing mature titles or hardcore for playing ultra-hard games, but another kind that pisses people off are those who think the mechanics of a game matters more then the content, AKA, gameplay matters more then Story/artwork/music, etc(Even though said people will complain about any M-rated game for it's gore, dark colors, or being realistic), or even constantly debating about graphics alone. As far as the Sonic fanbase goes, we get the gameplay matters more kind, and pretend the content doesn't matter, but they still complain when Sonic is too serious, and love the unfunny jokes from the newer games. It's even worse when Shadow is called Emo and Zor from Lost Mind was an actual emo and people straight up denied it.
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Good points, I cannot deny.
Another theory I should've added is that Sega didn't want to take any chances with the volatile fanbase, hence the dip in quality, while knowing fans will buy it no matter what.
I plan to write a "true" "Sonic - The Animated Series" (in fanfiction format) that shows that it IS possible to have a balance of environments & "rating" (it won't be M-rated, don't worry) aka a balance of "dark & gritty" with "colorful & surreal" WHILE at the same time making one continuous continuity by adopting bits from Fleetway, American, & Japanese to show it is possible when you take the time & effort to brainstorm. Of course I'm still working on it (Rome wasn't built in a day) & brainstorming ideas so I can "connect the dots" & then finally write it for the world to see. I don't want to alienate, I want to UNITE & show that just because it's difficult doesn't mean impossible.
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A lot of people have that theory with Sega not wanting to take chances, but I think it's more about SOJ having their own ideas about Sonic to. Especially looking at Lost World.
Your fanfic Idea actually seems pretty good. Good to see you taking more then one medium into consideration.
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Well I also heard SOJ thinks their ideas are perfect in every way with no one allowed to disagree with them. And look where it got them in the console war.
Well it took years to do so. The key is to THINK. And best to take your time; Sonic wasn't conceived by Sega overnight.
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Oh so you're aware of their history to then huh? Good.
Good point there, and another would be looking into other shows/games you could derive inspiration from as well. You're familiar with Sly Cooper and Ratchet & Clank right? Both of them follow suite with cool and even edgy anthro video game characters. TMNT back in the 2K's is another good example to.
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Yeah. Kalinske's interview shed a bit of light on SOJ's resentment & jealousy, causing them to sabotage the company just because one branch did better than them.
Not exactly familiar with Sly Cooper & Ratchet & Clank. However I have heard of them.
I have ideas here & there though I'm still working on it.
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Yeah, SOJ screwed not only themselves but all Sega fans(Hell, many Sonic fans today aren't even Sega fans)
About Sly and Ratchet, here's 2 trailers of their games:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Oso_6β¦
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdNlKkβ¦
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No kidding.
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Yeah, I think I saw comments of your's before. Didn't you say before that the Sonic cartoons sucked because they weren't like the games?
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How is SATAM degrading?
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Ok, I read that wrong, but you personally disliking something doesn't mean it's overrated, and quite frankly, compared to most of the shit we got besides him, the praise for SATAM Robotnick is quite warranted, and the cartoon in general, even with faults, the other cartoons had them to, some more then others.
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Well maybe for you purposely, but it is deserving of the raise it does get, and quite honestly, from what I've seen, SATAM's much better in comparison to most other Sonic mediums.
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Yeah, the only thing that would effect is you not being negative towards it. Quite frankly though, while you said you don't like it, I haven't seen one good reason why you don't like or for you to wish it doesn't exist, and there has to be some problem when you somehow pop up here to just to talk about this show when it's the first comment you've made to anything in my gallery, and this shit is brand new. It's kinda confusing, like, you're just here to talk shit about the show. XD
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AoStH Robotnik and SatAM Robotnik are also going for 2 entirely different archetypes of villainry. Which I can actually see a little bit of the two Robotniks in Sonic Boom, with Eggman being more like AoStH, and Lyric being more like SatAM.
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