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Yeah, it's been a while dawgs, but I'm gonna try making more of these in the future, and mo frequently.Related content
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I hate Mobius because it is Earth in the future 12 thousand years laterΒ
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That's the one thing I'll give the comics, they actually allow Tails to be able to do things and at one point even have a love interest.Β
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Tails is just there for exposistion in the games. Spout plot at the audience and do the tech stuff. In the comics he's all of that plus he GASP actually helps out with the fighting instead of fucking cowering at an unpowered Chaos he could easily defeat (I was super salty about that in Fores)
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"fucking cowering at an unpowered Chaos he could easily defeat (I was super salty about that in Fores)"
I'm still salty about both him and Sonic needing to run away from badniks in Lost World....
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That is so stupid to me how they do that. Considering in Lost World Sonic can homing attack chain 10s of them in a row. It's blatant gameplay/story disconnect.
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Well I mean, Tails hasn't been allowed a personality in the games for a while.
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That's the point.
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Well... then there you go...
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DAMN! 
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Exactly. -___-
Sonic X Tails was more useful too!
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Exactly. Hell, it wouldn't even be that bad if Tails was actually active. The one thing Boom for WiiU got right. If anything, he'd be a lot like Donatello from Ninja Turtles.
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Tails should be more independent in the games. Like, actually doing something cool. Kids who kick ass are always nice to see.
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It's very true that Tails is way more badass in the comics than he is in the games.
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Yep, when fan-games like Sonic Before and After the Sequel do something like made Tails a respectable and playable character, clearly somethings wrong with SEGA.
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...yup, things went downhill for him in the games after people said "Only sonic is playable"
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Which actually proved what they kept saying about needing less characters and stories to make the games better, false.
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Yeah Tails nee to follow around and do co-op in places oher than 2d.
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Or better yet, have a good role entirely. Boom almost had it though but screwed up the content and made it cheap.
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Too much flaunting his brainiac card there.
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Yeah, but I thought for a long time that he should use some gadgets and stuff as weapons like he did in Sonic Battle. That's the only good thing I see that came out of that, aside from co-op gameplay. I'd still try this game out over Colors and Lost World, but Sega needs to get their act right, and Frost screwed this up.
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Yeah but at least there's balance rather then being one sided towards just being the background nerd.
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His role is being taken by both Sally and Rotor in SatAM/Archie. His Archie role is still better than most of the games and Sonic X though. Still, I consider OVA Tails the best one.
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Taken or not, both Archie and OVA still had that balance.
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Tails is only like that in the games because people kept whining to SEGA about "THe shitty friends" and demanding "Sonic only!" Basically, we only have ourselves to blame when he doesn't do anything.
At the same time, Game Tails actually calls Sonic out when he's being a dick, while Archie Tails smiles and applauds. Might not be the case with others, but to me, a character with actual character that doesn't do much fighting is infinitely superior to the opposite.
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Oh I don't question that, but TBH, most of the biggest whiners I see, as well as others I've talked to after it was brought up to me some time ago, also happen to hardcore Nintendo fanboys. One even told me that both Sega forums and Sonic Stadium is chalk full of them.
About the comics, whether the case may be, Tails does proves to be a lot more useful by actually being active, plus, having a character of his own. Even then, Tails doesn't do it because he knows, as well as everyone, that Sonic's ego is like that, and even then, he's not a dick to everyone or just being one to be one. Plus, Tails actually tried(pretty much did) kick Sonic's ass over Fiona. I.E., being active, and given his other adventures as well, he's superior to the "talking sidekick Tails" by default.
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Believe me, I want Tails playable again more than anything else.
The problem with Tails in the comics is a problem that all of the characters share: His ability to handle a situation increases or decreases depending on what Flynn needs to tell his story. For example, sometimes he's a really effective fighter, like your example (179) and issue 238. Other times, he needs Sonic's support to do anything, because if he had the initiative to act on his own in those situations, then the plot would be resolved faster than Flynn wants it to, like in 231. Sonic could've made another attempt to save Sally, but Tails and AMy "needed" Sonic to stay with them for some reason. His reaction is also confusing at times, using 179 again:
155/Finding out that Sonic is interested in the girl that Tails himself loves: Angrily calls Sonic out, runs off, eventually calls him out properly and physically attacks him.
179/FInding out that Sonic just used Fiona, despite her issues with trusting him: Immediately forgives Sonic.
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While all that can be more or less true(not dismissing it completely), it's the fact that the characters actually have that potential at all in the comics, while in the games, everyone has just been set aside for Sonic. What you described here though, sounds similar to Superman and how he's only as powerful as he needs to be, but he's still the Man of steel no matter what(and I don't even like him), but my point is, it's better to have some potential, even off and on, rather then completely losing it all like in the games. Even then, the games have done the characters, the main 4 really, more wrong then the comics, especially Amy and Knuckles, who are FAR off better in the comics.
Also, 155 was wrttin by Ken Penders, and in 179, that happened all after Tails fight with Sonic, which he even got in the first punch via sneak attack, and once Tails yelled about Fiona, Sonic said to beat up on him them, then admitted that he ran to Fiona because he was still feeling down about Sally.
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Amy's only better off in the comics because FLynn's turned her into a pet character whereas in the games they treat her with the respect a blind fangirl warrants. And Superman being as strong as he needs to be is within the arc, not between issues.
I know all that, but that still doesn't justify it. All it says is that Flynn screwed up on remaining consistent with what came beforehand.
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Inconsistent or not, it's the point that under Flynn, the characters have more potential overall, while the game were completely rebooted for the not to. Also, Amy treated with respect? Until Heroes....
I wasn't justifying everything there, but you seem to only call Ian Flynn out on that, and even then, stated that Tails just forgave Sonic despite all that happened in order for it to get to that point. Could all this be better, sure, maybe, but it's much better then the games, and as a fan, I want better for the series, and I see the comics as better, as well as Fleetway, and if someone comes along and do better then them, then hey, more power to us, but for no reason at all, those are the mediums that get shafted the most. Oh wait, there is a reason, people who can't accept them as their own canon cause they can't get over that their not suppose to be like the games(Even if Fleetway is). XD
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Flynn's very good at squandering that potential, especially in the characters he could develop without SEGA bitching him out. Β Every member of the Suppression Squad bar Scourge springs to mind, as does Fiona.
FLynn having good moments makes his bad moments look massively worse. I know that the games an comics are different, but SEGA don't seem to.
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*chuckle* and people actually prefer Lost World's story over the Comics. I dunno whether to feel for such a lost soul or pray to the pagan gods for their atonement.
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that would be cool if tails was more like that in the games.
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That's not even going into the pre-252 material or Fleetway.
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Yeah, I can agree. Tails, and really, everyone else in the franchise except Sonic, have been doing nothing important in the games, and really shine in the comics. That being said, Sonic Boom looks promising to them cast.
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It does, but it still seems like they're going to go for that childish writing from Colors. Also, you might wanna read this: conflictingviews.wordpress.comβ¦
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Well, I don't really mind a childish tone for something like the TV show, so long as the writing is good. Like, a tone similar to like Power Puff Girls, or Penguins of Madagascar. While I would prefer a tone more along the lines of Ninja Turtles, I still like those shows and don't mind their tone. Very lighthearted and cheerful, but serious when it feels like it. That being said, something tells me that they're going to go for a more serious tone in the game then the show, which only makes it more appealing to me.
I really don't like reading things from him, if that is the same guy I read the one article from. It looks like it, but I might be mistaken. Because there was this one article I read where the guy was talking about how he wanted Sonic to take itself seriously, and be a serious franchise, but eventually it just kinda delved into "IF YOU LIKE SONIC AS A LIGHTHEARTED SERIES, YOU SUCK!" Which I found slightly humorous, because he titled those people as X-sers, people who came into the series in X and felt that it got too dark afterwards. I came in on Sonic X and Heroes, and I turned out the opposite of those. Then again, that might just be a different guy, it wouldn't surprise me if it was.
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No, it's the same guy actually, lol. The problem is that people want the series to be so kiddy and light hearted that it turns around and forget to actually entertain the viewer, and most people realy aren't into that kind of entertainment, except little kids wathing the curretn generation of cartoons, many of them being nowhere as good as the toons we got back in the day. You coming in during Sonic X and coming out the opposite doesn't really counter the argument, it just makes you an anomonly. You may not like the things he has to say but he reads between the lines of what they were saying, and really, don't you think it's weird that the guy completely the question about if Knuckles would be an idiot again?
About the game, there was another interview where one of the guys behind the game said they wanted to bring the writers over from the show so the characters can be the same way in the games. That right there just tells me to expect a slightly interesting story with Lost World style wrting, but I hope I'm proven wrong.
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Well, I know I can't be the only person to have come in during X and came out liking the more dark, serious toned stories, because if I am, Holy F@#$, how am I the only one outta the millions of fans like that? Well, whatever. I forgot to mention that I've seen people who are the opposite, people who have been with the franchise since the beginning and kinda hold the same stand point as the "X-sers". Eh, then again, those people might just be few and far between and I know one of those people. Regardless, on the subject of cartoons from back in the day, there are still plenty of good cartoons on today, it's just that... well, there's a lot of s@#% on as well. But some shows, like Kung Fu Panda and the latest TMNT series are pretty good. Buncha other shows too, but that would be getting into a whole other debate. Besides, in that single trailer had me laughing more then the entire game of Colors or Generations, so they're doing SOMETHING right.
Well, something also tells me that there were a couple of problems with the writing of the story of Lost World, because there was a lot of stuff that they could have worked on in that game. And it really felt like it was trying to take the right turns, but it felt like it was being held back by something. So something tells me that there was some sort of executive meddling going on there. Either that, or they can really make something feel like it should have more bite to it when it doesn't.
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