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First of all, 99% of the time, no babies are killed during abortion. Most abortions are carried out when the fetus is just a non-sentient fetus. The few times when they happen during late-term pregnancies is to preserve the mother's life, or when the baby won't survive childbirth.There are, however, loads of instances in which anti-abortionists have directly and indirectly killed actual people. There was that tragedy with Savita Halappanavar, who was refused abortion, and died as a result of a miscarriage: [link] .
There have also been many accounts of anti-abortionists first-degree murdering/injuring doctors and bombing clinics/hospitals (just naming some examples):
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In addition, any attempt to illegalize abortions will just result in making abortions unsafe. Unsafe abortions kill 70,000 women a year. On top of that, an average of 300,000 women die from childbirth each year.
No one who values life would support any of this.
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Comments: 494
LemonBang In reply to ??? [2013-07-11 19:01:41 +0000 UTC]
I feel sorry for the doctors and clinics that have to go through pro-lifer bullshit.
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punctual3 In reply to LemonBang [2013-07-12 02:05:20 +0000 UTC]
I know People who dedicate their lives to saving lives should never have to face this.
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Hawkbri In reply to ??? [2013-07-11 04:41:09 +0000 UTC]
Also: your 'anti-abortionists kill more people than abortion' is NOT fact, just a random 'he said she said' deal. Please gather ACTUAL facts before posting this kind of idiocy.
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-22 17:09:15 +0000 UTC]
Oh, the hypocrisy, it burns.
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Hawkbri In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-07-23 12:54:55 +0000 UTC]
Which hypocrisy? i don't believe i stated any factual paperwork nor posted any links nor quoted any medical paperwork
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-23 15:15:37 +0000 UTC]
And yet you are trying to prove a point.
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Hawkbri In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-07-24 08:00:15 +0000 UTC]
Quite true, quite! But by which is the hypocrisy? the destruction of fetus or the abandonment issues? Personally, i think some women have no taste in men. Simply going for 'the hunk' instead of the actual LOVER. The Lover who will stay, no matter what. I know I'm one of those, and yet... it's the women who leave me because they're too damn stupid to know what's in front of them! "Oh noes this hunky guy just made love to me and now i'm pregnant! I should TELL HIM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!" =.= So many movies based off this line alone. So many single-moms out there because of lines of thought JUST like this. So many it's dizzying to just think about it!
If you're a woman, find the right guy, not the easiest lay or the 'cutest looking hunk'. OR maybe find a girl to play with. Less chance of getting pregnant when it's pussy-on-pussy.
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-24 16:32:36 +0000 UTC]
I think I know exactly why girls don't like you.
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Hawkbri In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-07-24 20:49:14 +0000 UTC]
Oh, you'd be surprised how many girls like me they just wont date me because they prefer cuter lookin guys. And I'm not pretty or handsome by any standard, just rugged, maybe a little ugly, nothin to brag or talk much about, nor am i saying anything 'bullshit' call-worthy
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-25 06:11:49 +0000 UTC]
Even if you are ugly, I don't think girls are really repelled by that. It's probably your ugly personality that's scaring them away
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-11 06:18:05 +0000 UTC]
The actual facts are right there in the description. Please LOOK at the ACTUAL facts that are right in front of you before you accuse others of posting idiocy.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-11 21:53:49 +0000 UTC]
ok then: Why do you support abortion so much?
Also: did you not read the entirety of what i typed in my first comment and read about some of the logical views and learnings?
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-12 01:56:45 +0000 UTC]
1. Because it saves lives.
2. I read your first comment. It was poorly written and irrelevant.
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Hawkbri In reply to ??? [2013-07-11 04:39:31 +0000 UTC]
mmmk... ?
So... yeah... did Savita have a good doctor or was she mishandled so roughly that makes it LOOK like she died from miscarriage instead? Sure, women die from childbirth every year, but how many little babies do women come to learn to train THEIR kids to not have sex in jr high and highschool/middleschool? or rather... how many of those possible teachings have come to deaf ears because some ignorant little child didn't want to learn her lesson about 'safe sex' or 'celibacy'?
How many children are created from a rape session? quite a few, sure, most definitely a lot. How many children are conceived in the womb from a girl getting STUPID, and usually drunk, in jr. high and highschool/middleschool? Maybe 50 plus-times as many. How many little girls in our generations from the 80's, 90's and early 2000's even, are TRYING to get pregnant or just fooling around and 'accidentally' getting pregnant?
I say: Let em learn their lesson.
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DayDreamingOtaku In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-22 16:46:18 +0000 UTC]
Sir or madam, I'd like to point out that it takes two to "tango". No need to go slut shaming...
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Hawkbri In reply to DayDreamingOtaku [2013-07-23 12:42:51 +0000 UTC]
So true, so true. Good thing I was never much of a slut in school then i was always the gentlemanly outcast.
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-11 06:17:23 +0000 UTC]
1. It's been confirmed, from all sources, that Savita died from a miscarriage which the doctors refused to abort. There's no denying it.
2. Your second argument has nothing to do with what's being discussed on this stamp.
3. Neither does your third argument.
4. I say: you need to learn some lessons of your own.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-11 21:52:32 +0000 UTC]
"Mebbe, mebbe... but i have yet to see man outsmart bull-it."
Theory, theory, theory. Nothing is real, everything is permitted.
This is the internet. And why are you so focused on Ms. Savita? Was she a friend of yours?
Yes, i know, i quoted a couple of things right up top of this comment.
And to counter your 2-4's: You'd be surprised that i am. I'm a 'pro-lifer'. I think kids who always think of suicide might need some mental help, maybe a little indoctrination to having a more proactive LIFE instead of using a puny razor to end their lives. I also think that we should get rid of a few... ahem... FDA... groups so that restrictions on medications to actually CURE things can be made and what-for, as well as possibly even find cures for women who die from miscarriage. Also: Doctors have a certain rule about abortions: if you are 'so-far' along into a pregnancy, aborting can be dangerous, not JUST for the fetus, but the would-have-been mother, and MOST, if not all, doctors follow this, unless they're illegals, unlicensed, mad or whatnot, but all SAFE and licensed doctors follow that rule.
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-12 02:03:05 +0000 UTC]
Sorry, but I can't understand half of what you're saying. If you want to get your point across, you're going to have to work on your word choices and punctuation.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-12 07:52:35 +0000 UTC]
Get a degree in pharmaceuticals and get yourself a cure for miscarriages.
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-12 20:37:46 +0000 UTC]
There is no cure for miscarriages. During these, a fetus has to be expelled naturally, or surgically.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-13 09:49:01 +0000 UTC]
You would be surprised. Now: go get a doctorates' degree and save some lives!
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-14 17:58:52 +0000 UTC]
Abortion saves plenty of lives
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-14 19:59:50 +0000 UTC]
well, go get a doctorate's and save MORE lives, children and stupid, or smart, women alike! That way you can help them make the mens suffer! Or make them happy by making them help raise children
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-15 04:50:00 +0000 UTC]
^ Ya see what happens when kids lie about their ages to get dA accounts?
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-15 14:17:50 +0000 UTC]
Hah. Do some research and you'll find out how old I really am, but of course, you're just a troll yourself. Probably a liberal buffoon who only thinks 'condemn everybody who doesn't think exactly like i do! Burn em all!' So hypocritical like just about 95% of the rest of the liberal community with a desire for the mob mentality. I wonder if people started thinking more of the REAL future instead of JUST their own... we could finally get to the stars instead of still being stuck on this damn rock of a planet.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-16 00:15:25 +0000 UTC]
you have a god? Which one? is it Allah or Buddha?
Liberal folks usually dont have a god to believe in, they just know something is out there and they don't want to believe in anything so... yeah... please excuse my change of subject, but you DID do the 'omg' which should just be left the stupid Believer-girls who just want acronyms to be lazy for inciting their gods'/goddess' name(s), because they're too damnable stupid and lazy to write/type a complete "Oh my God/gawd!"
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-17 05:19:05 +0000 UTC]
Hah. I didn't even NEED to try
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-18 00:32:08 +0000 UTC]
It shows. Spewing nonsense takes no effort. Speaking coherently, however, does.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-18 04:17:37 +0000 UTC]
Yeah yeah, let's see you, put the words of your OWN onto the page showing scientific facts, hmmm?
At the moment, I'm suggesting you get a PhD/Doctorates degree in medical sciences though, which shows coherency that you aren't understanding, to help out women in general with ever-more advanced sciences. Imagine curing miscarriage and ending abortion all-in-one go, hmmm?
For me, I'm a man of the stars but i want the future of our race(human) do what i want to aspire to. Spaceships and other highly advanced sciences working towards getting off this rock. End abortion, upgrade our learning requirements for advancing to the next levels, advance colleges and help them earn the stars of a brighter future.
TA-DA! Coherency! You can suck it!
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-18 20:33:53 +0000 UTC]
Yep, you're certainly a great example of humanity's progression. Lulz.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-19 04:35:29 +0000 UTC]
So... let's see how YOU do, hmmm? Show the world how smart you REALLY are by attempting to get a PhD, hmm? *yoda giggle*
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-22 13:44:00 +0000 UTC]
Awww how kyuuuute! You're using meme-style gifs! I prefer the older way of emotic
/me lawls his balls off at your cute actions
Anyways: I can see why your submission got onto the I-Call-Bull group's list.
And just one last thing: if the women who got pregnant actually got GOOD guys instead of just the 'cutest jock on the varsity team', they'd be able to get the guys who actually CARED. Girls who get pregnant by the football team in highschool usually end up losing those football guys and having to raise a kid themselves with only their family to help. They end up becoming like you. Resentful and distrusting, and end up making the same stupid mistake of finding another 'cute boy at a bar' and getting pregnant again. Find the guys who actually care, then you can break the stupidity-cycle of getting pregnant and then losing the guy 'of their life'.
That's the other half of the stamp, so... ta-dah! It's all the girls' fault.
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punctual3 In reply to Hawkbri [2013-07-25 06:17:07 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, there's really no wonder my stamp got into I-Call-Bull, with me submitting it to the group and all.
Again, as dumb as you comment is, it's also completely irrelevant, therefore I have no interest in arguing.
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Musicahiro In reply to punctual3 [2013-08-20 20:32:24 +0000 UTC]
It's okay, Punctual. I read all of it and I congratulate you on trying to have a battle of wits with this unarmed git, Hawkbri. I just love how he tells you to get a PHD, while acting like his dick is the equivalent of having one. Watching his flimsy argument deteriorate was just beautiful. Everything about what he said just screamed that he's still stuck in high school, butt-hurt over the fact that women just don't want someone with such an ugly personality quipped with a lack of logic or common sense.
To me he just admitted that guys are so weak-minded and weak-willed that they are completely incapable of just saying "No" to a girl, drunk or sober.
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Hawkbri In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-26 00:20:28 +0000 UTC]
"Again, as dumb as you comment is, it's also completely irrelevant, therefore I have no interest in arguing."
your*
Keep your head, keep your cool, I've been laughing through this entire thread, dude.
I always have fun. Comes with some mental... well, i'm not sure if i could call them dispositions, so... feel free to put a helmet on... and then jam it on hard, maybe use a hammer. And if you know what i am referencing, you deserve a cookie!
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ZS3 In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 06:01:14 +0000 UTC]
Sometimes I support abortion simply out of spite for these crazed dumbfucks...
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ZS3 In reply to punctual3 [2013-07-10 21:49:11 +0000 UTC]
What? I said SOMETIMES. I'm pro-choice all the way, BTW.
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VoltaliatheMajestic In reply to ??? [2013-07-10 01:39:45 +0000 UTC]
I confess that I am pro-life, but the only thing I believe is that any fetus, no matter the circumstances, should have a lease at life. But I do respect those who are pro-choice. If they believe abortion is the answer because of complications, I am totally fine with it. Personally, I don't think I could go through with an abortion because I might as well never live it down. Still, I leave well enough alone.
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punctual3 In reply to VoltaliatheMajestic [2013-07-10 21:00:36 +0000 UTC]
As long as you don't act invasive towards someone else's personal decisions, that's fine by me.
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