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Punk-Noir — Angels of Redemption Terminator w Assault Cannon

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Description As a secondary army next to my Grey Knights I'm planning on doing a all terminator Deathwing list. But since I A. don't like the bone color on Deathwing and B. at some point might even get some marines or bikes in my army, I like to keep it coherent. On top of that; Painting white as well as a half/half color scheme was a interesting thing to try out for now.

I did enjoy it a lot, so I'll have another 23 or so terminators to go (seeing as I have 7 done).
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Diffes [2012-04-24 14:55:30 +0000 UTC]

Awesome mate! Looks lot better than my Terminators.. xD

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chaotea [2012-04-24 14:39:55 +0000 UTC]

my friend does dark angels, and hes desided to do the full deathwing. the fool XD

This looks realy cool. i love the angels of redemption colours.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-24 14:52:54 +0000 UTC]

Well, considering you can still get terminators for rather cheap, it's not that stupid, lol.

Those Black reach terminators go for less than half the price than a box of normal terminators on ebay.

Which also is the route I'm going for a part. Out of 30 terminators, 15 will be those Black reach ones.

As for painting... I believe we've seen enough bone color terminators already. Angels of redemption don't get enough love despite their nice scheme. Now, just hope I don't run out of paints before I'm done, since GW overhauled their paintrange. I want back my Knarloc Green!

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-24 15:32:50 +0000 UTC]

lol, just 30? The entire death wing is 100 terminators. It was 30 of them which partisipated in the grand last stand that made the chapter change the deathwing colours, but the full force is 100. I think hes up to 50 ish. (hes doing the entire company after all)

Ive never been a great fan of most half and quater paint schemes. Though i agree with you on the paints. My most used paint is deneb stone. Fortunally i have 3 pots of it left. 2 untouched.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-24 15:38:06 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, just 30... that'll make up about 1700 points... add in an HQ and some minor stuff and you're up to 2000. I wont play a lot more than those pointsvalues, especially since the only person in my area (as in, living around the corner) just started 40k, so expecting him to up full company and apocalypse battles might be a bit too much to start with, lol.

Besides that, in my area, most people play around 2000 points, even in local stores, so having 100 around and not using them... I might invest in other hobby's as well

From what I've seen in the GW stores, I think Rakarth flesh comes closest to Dheneb stone. But I did hear that Vallejo has an extensive range, so I might look if they have something similar.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-24 16:35:00 +0000 UTC]

Hes quite the hardcore DA fan though, i think he just wants to do it more than have plans to play with them alot.

I have around 6000 points of chaos now, but at least 2000 is stuff i got cause i wanted it, not because i think ill play with it. I wish i had someone local to play with, as i tend to go to stores about once a month at the most.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-24 22:47:39 +0000 UTC]

Sounds like me years ago. Roughly 7000 pts of Chaos. But I had it spread out over 5 armies (each of the chaos gods & undivided). And I had some friends who liked apocalypse, so we'd end up in 7000 points each 1 on 1 battles which took us a day, lol.

The way I solved it, is to convert someone into getting into the hobby. Of course, having friends helps a lot, to start with.

But to be honest, I didn't really start it to game that much. I just wanted to paint a bit, I got in talks with a friend and he was like "Oh... it looks like fun, could you help me out to get started?" So that's how my friend got into it.

I don't have any local stores around to play... the nearest store to play is a GW store in germany. Which in general is fine... IF they didn't put their f'n rulebooks and rules in german. It's quite confusing to play against those guys there, seeing a lot of germans aren't that good in english, and none of them are packing english rulebooks. I rememeber ending up explaining a staffmember what the rule did, so he told me what it was called in german...

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-25 08:20:29 +0000 UTC]

I hate playing with models that arnt painted, so more than half of my choas dont get used most of the time. And my tau, nids and imperial guard arnt even primed.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-25 10:35:35 +0000 UTC]

That's why you shouldn't stock up on that much

Or just indulge on 20+ hour painting sprees during weekends, lol

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-25 11:21:42 +0000 UTC]

i like moddeling more than anything though. Still got loads of forge world to make.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-25 16:27:23 +0000 UTC]

Chances are if I could get a hold of Forge world easier, I'd be having some more of their stuff around. In the past I've bought some of their stuff on Games day though.

But even then... Painting an army in 2 weeks wasn't that far off... on top of having a fulltime job. I'd pretty much cut back on hours of sleep and paint with zeal, lol

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-25 16:51:43 +0000 UTC]

I get all my forge world stuff from games day. ive only been to two, but i spent around £200 each time.

As for work, i agree that having a job is a double edged sword. i have the money to buy models, but limited time to make and paint.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-25 17:13:24 +0000 UTC]

That's usually with work and anything. The moment you can buy whatever you want, you rarely have the time to enjoy it as much as you want to, lol.

Meh, I'm probably more of a guy who will obsess over painting and forget everything else... and do a terrible job at my work because I'm either tired of still wandering through my paints in my mind, lol.

As for games days, yeah.. I've been to only two as well. Didn't spend THAT much... believe it would be around 150 pounds or so one time, 200 the other (and that was with an order for someone else included).

I'm bummed out my creditcard company messes up a bit @ forgeworld. From what I've understood there's a few companies that do Mastercard transactions, and some are not supported by all stores. Guess what Mastercard I have, lol. That got me to have 2 rejected FW orders in the past. Which might be good, because that nerdcrack will get me broke way to fast, lol

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-26 10:35:31 +0000 UTC]

if i spent as much time painting as i did playing Dota2 id be fine. Ive clocked 220 hours so far XP

I just lack motivation for it. Though im managing a squad a week generally.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-26 11:13:28 +0000 UTC]

lol... that's why I rarely play videogames. I usually end up playing games when I have nothing to paint and I'm totally broke XD

It always strikes me as odd with a lot of people. "I lack motivation to paint". Weirdly enough most people never have a motivational issues to go to the store and get tricked into buying new stuff by employees at the local GW store, lol.

But I can see how having a job isn't really a big motivator to get a lot of stuff done, which requires you to be active... and which is probably also why a lot of people still end up on the couch watching tv.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-26 12:34:26 +0000 UTC]

well, most of the time i just cant be bothered to spray things. One of the issues holding me back from doing my forge world models is i cant be bothered to wash them.

At the moment im painting while watching Star Gate SG-1 (im on season 3 out of 10).

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-26 12:56:04 +0000 UTC]

Oh right... washing the resin... I washed it when I had stuff around, but it wasn't that much luckily. As for spraying... I spray a lot of stuff, not just my warhammer figures. That kinda comes with making the occasional prop for graphic work.

I usually listen to podcasts while painting... kinda need my eyes on the models, not on the screen, heh

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-26 16:19:38 +0000 UTC]

well, thats true, i tend to get about 20 mins painting in a 40 mins epesode, but as i was going to watch the episode anyway, its 20 mins extra painting XD

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-27 10:05:23 +0000 UTC]

Maybe I should start Stargate as well, as soon as I start a new army, lol...

Or if it's a horde army, go through all seasons of the simpsons... oh wait, I went through 19 seasons already, lol.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-27 11:57:11 +0000 UTC]

i think i need to put in some sessions just painting. Just to get it done.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-27 13:24:34 +0000 UTC]

And cut back on sleep a bit

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-27 13:50:45 +0000 UTC]

nooooo, ma sleeps :3

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-27 20:17:56 +0000 UTC]

Sleep is for the weak!

However... my bed sometimes is really seducing me, lol... darn Slaanesh infused bed. Hope I never wake up next to a daemonette... however, with the Keeper of secrets of theirs... everyplace is like vegas (what happens in vegas, stays in vegas)

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-30 08:47:30 +0000 UTC]

I pulled some good painting time this weekend. Got a squad finnished. its my best squad to date, using all of the techniques ive learnt. The look so cool.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-30 13:52:07 +0000 UTC]

I pretty much ran out of models, lol. That's what I get for doing it A. on a budget and B. in general, not buying new models until I have painted what I have around.

I have some terminators inbound by the mail but mail fails me... should've had them in already -_-

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-04-30 14:22:02 +0000 UTC]

i bought a plastic hive tyrant and trygon at the weekend. The trygon will get the tyrants wings and become a (forgot name, basicaly big gargoyle thing. begins with H, i think).

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-04-30 16:04:21 +0000 UTC]

Haridan? Hierodule? There's probably one more with an H in there, lol

Nid armies with big bugs are awesome though. Thought about it a bit, but I don't really think it can be done A. cheap and B. without hordes of gaunts.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-02 09:07:27 +0000 UTC]

it can be done, but it is expensive and hard to play (though if your opponent thought they where up against a hoard army and took high shot low strenth weapons youd be fine.)

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-02 10:57:31 +0000 UTC]

That's the same deal I might suffer with my Grey Knights. As long as I don't encounter horde armies I'm fine mostly.

I think nids in general expensive. Big bugs are expensive on their own, and a decent swarm of gaunts (as in a maxed out squad) easily costs that same amount (and you'd still have only half the points of a big bug). The idea of tervigon spam looked interesting, but you need a lot of gaunts on the field, a lot of gaunts as "generated units" by the tervigon... it's not really cost effective.

Someday, if I have 500 bucks to spare... I might. But then again... when do I ever have 500 bucks to spare, lol. Besides; whenever that happens I'm quite sure a box of gaunts at least is doubled in price.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-02 11:36:10 +0000 UTC]

yea, its not cheep, but costs considerably less if you get the starter boxes.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-02 11:38:09 +0000 UTC]

Only if you need all the models, lol (at least, I think you mean the battleforces)

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-02 14:10:12 +0000 UTC]

yea, but the nid one is full of models for a hoard army.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-02 14:40:24 +0000 UTC]

Talking horde armies, I'm toying around with the idea of a marine horde army, lol. From what I figured out I can easily cram 90 marines in 2000 points, lol. I don't think there should be that many 3+ save models in one army in a normal sized game.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-02 16:44:56 +0000 UTC]

screw that, do a hoard necron army, with as many scarabs as you can fit in.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-02 17:03:08 +0000 UTC]

Do scarabs count as scoring?

Cause otherwise... that's an excellent idea ^^

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-03 07:56:47 +0000 UTC]

i think theyre still fast attck, but if you kill all the enemy, scoring doesnt matter XD

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-03 11:28:52 +0000 UTC]

I rather play missions instead of "just kill the enemy". Capturing table quarters, capturing points, stuff like that... that's why I rather have troops

On the other hand, having an army with a few troops and lots of other goodies will make sure your enemy will have less scoring units left.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-03 11:41:30 +0000 UTC]

see, i play alot of objective games (damn the dice gods), but i just end up trying to wipe the other player out. Probably why i dont win alot of games.

And im not syre, but i think scarabs are troops now.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-03 12:13:15 +0000 UTC]

That's not very tactical is it?

I checked, scarabs are fast attack, thus you can only take 3 x 10 bases. Still 40 attacks (or 50 on the charge). 3 wounds. So it's good to tarpit any squads that might be dangerous. And even though they have WS2 and S3, they do have that entropic strike rule which pretty much wrecks vehicles.

Well placed templates however, will have a go at it. "vulnerable to templates"

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-03 12:32:00 +0000 UTC]

true. probably just best to stick with guants.

though, how much is a ten man marine squad. You can get 10 chaos marines for 150 points, and take up to 20 per squad, so they might be good for hoarding. Plus the come ready with both bolders and bolt pistols & chainswords.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-03 12:38:00 +0000 UTC]

Pointswise, marines go for 170, and you get a free missile launcher & flamer.

Moneywise... I'd still go regular marines. 10 bucks for 10 marines is way better than the 25 to 30 for 10 chaos marines, lol

Rumour has it there's a new chaos book coming this year, so I can imagine there'll be some changes with their bolt pistols, chainswords AND bolters.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-03 13:59:10 +0000 UTC]

cash wise, chaos marines and space marines cost the same.

I dont recon theyll change the bolt pistols, chainswords & bolters, simply because of how the box sets are at the moment and how people have modelled for so long.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-03 20:37:29 +0000 UTC]

In general yes, they cost the same, unless you look on ebay and get the Black reach models that's how I'm doing most of my terminators.

About the bolt pistols and all... it does give chaos +1 attack, but yeah... they don't have that "And they shall know no fear" rule, so I guess it makes up for something.

But modelling in the past is no measure for GW... heck, there are units that pretty much disappeared over years. With their logic they think "people wil buy new models" thus, it's more sales, lol

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-04 07:21:25 +0000 UTC]

true enough i suppose.

I dont like the idea of getting to many of the black reach models. Even the terminator. There just so static and boreing.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-04 10:19:08 +0000 UTC]

Unless I do a lot of modelling myself normal terminators aren't less static I think. Besides, get a box of black reach ones, get a box normal ones, swap around the arms, that'll get you some variation. Believe the Terminator general for Chaos was decently posable, or at least his legs were a bit more "multipart".

Besides, I don't really want to spend 35 euro for a box over and over if I can get cheap deals here and there. Also, on 30 terminators, I pretty much include 2 sets of black reach terminators. On 6 squads that means one or two terminators that are a bit more static. I can live with that.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-04 11:40:08 +0000 UTC]

for me modeling is my primary interest, so i tend to go for the more expensive option.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-04 19:17:56 +0000 UTC]

To each their own I guess not that I hate it, but I have other hobbies as well... musical instruments cost me an arm and a leg, lol... playing Magic: the gathering might cost me a bit, as well as a not so stable financial situation currently... hence, I'm a bit on a budget regarding Warhammer. Still if opportunity arises, I'll buy a box of normal mini's instead of snap-fit ones, just filling in gaps to cut back a bit as well as the fact that I just need the models (and a load-out of weapons might be the same as the boxed set).

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-08 09:09:23 +0000 UTC]

i buy alot of games, so i know how you feel. Still, i do enjoy the occassional 'project' which tends to be very expesive. My current one is taking the wings from a plastic hive tyrant and putting them on a trigon to make that giant gargoyle carrier.
Also, with what we were talking about with the scarab hoards earlier, you could also take afew toms spiders, and use the to add more bases to the scarabs.

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Punk-Noir In reply to chaotea [2012-05-08 14:27:07 +0000 UTC]

I'm a bit more budget I guess, lol

If a single conversion costs me say... a 100 bucks, chances are I'm not going to start it. And if money wasn't the issue, I could've just ordered a Haridan from forgeworld... but looking at their site; that piece is 228 pounds, lol. So relatively speaking your project is budget, lol.

Spiders with that might be an idea, especially since you need more than just scarabs. But I"m not too thrilled about the necron troops choices. Besides, I believe spiders fall under heavy support, which I rather fill up with Monolith spam

But the necron thing, I think wont really get off the ground. First finish my Angels of redemption, then start a gaming table and then I'll see where I'll go with armies.

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chaotea In reply to Punk-Noir [2012-05-08 15:29:24 +0000 UTC]

necron troops are very good. They used to be uber hard core, but now they're not so much, but much more sensible in points cost. 4+ armour sv with a 5+ roll of 'we'll be back'. 4 toughness is good to and all necrons have 10Ld.

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