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Published: 2012-01-06 23:32:02 +0000 UTC; Views: 11315; Favourites: 63; Downloads: 123
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This is from someone else's scenario on soc.history.what-if ( [link] ): basically, the US Socialist movement does rather better, Eugene Debs wins the Presidency on a Socialist ticket, the panicked right tries to prevent him from taking office, and there is a genuine revolution as a result...For the curious, Poland broke away during the Soviet near-collapse in the late 90s, has turned its back on Communism more thoroughly than any other ex-Soviet puppet and has a hardline nationalist and Very Catholic government, although not actually a theocracy. Spain as OTL had a civil war in the 30s, and with Germany, Italy, France and the UK (gone a bit red scare bugshit after the US went Red (or at least a dark shade of pink)) supporting the Franco-equivalent, Spain went *fascist: they later sent troops into Portugal when revolution threatened their right-wing allies in Portugal, and apparently forgot to leave.
The Catholic Pact is a new political creation, with Poland allying with the most ideologically compatible nation in Europe, and Parguay, one of only two remaining rightist juntas in Latin America (propped up by xenophobia re their neighbors) jumping on the bandwagon in hopes of getting a bit of aid. The Columbians aren't taking the risk of offending anyone by joining, and anyway the Spanish and the Poles consider them waay too feckless.
Iberia is a bit of a right-wing "north Korea", poor, isolated, and armed with WMDs: it's a bit better off in that it at least has local capitalism and there isn't actual starvation (farming can be done at a profit), although the continued growth of the population (birth control is illegal, as is abortion) may change this in time.
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Comments: 19
BrutalityInc [2022-08-09 22:52:46 +0000 UTC]
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SomeRandomMinion [2022-06-11 16:12:24 +0000 UTC]
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BrutalityInc In reply to SomeRandomMinion [2022-06-25 15:02:54 +0000 UTC]
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BrutalityInc [2022-06-06 20:32:28 +0000 UTC]
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grisador [2015-11-04 17:58:25 +0000 UTC]
This world isn't seem 'bad'... Is it better than OTL ?
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paikal26626 [2014-01-17 19:57:34 +0000 UTC]
Seriously, i can't tell the differences in this maps. In the end, they looks all reds to me.....except Iberia thus, he give me more chill than the reds.
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AmongTheSatanic [2012-01-08 04:53:39 +0000 UTC]
Never thought I'd see the day you made a map on this premise...
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QuantumBranching In reply to AmongTheSatanic [2012-01-12 05:50:16 +0000 UTC]
Why not? Do I come across as Republican?
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AmongTheSatanic In reply to QuantumBranching [2012-01-12 21:39:17 +0000 UTC]
Not at all. I just never thought I'd see anyone make a map of an democratic-socialist America. Debs was always someone I'd like to invest my time in learning about and only managed to come across with scant details...
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Planken [2012-01-07 10:22:15 +0000 UTC]
USA even has democratic now and not just two big parties who no-one exept USAnians see a difference in? hmmm. One is very rightwinged. The other is even more rightwinged. Thats the more or less Difference i see . Anyway. Myself live in Norway The ''other democratic/at least bribe the opposition rather than shooting them'' part of the world. if i saw it left(because right is wrong and left is correct).
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QuantumBranching In reply to mdc01957 [2012-01-12 05:52:01 +0000 UTC]
Somewhat less democratic: one party does win most of the time. Say as democratic as modern Japan?
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TomBombardier In reply to QuantumBranching [2012-01-12 10:01:53 +0000 UTC]
Less democratic than being able to dissolve the Legislative Branch?
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mdc01957 In reply to QuantumBranching [2012-01-12 07:47:13 +0000 UTC]
Or perhaps modern Singapore?
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Kollateralschaden [2012-01-06 23:45:47 +0000 UTC]
Too many shades of red. It's kind of hard for me to make out the different groups.
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QuantumBranching In reply to Kollateralschaden [2012-01-12 05:50:48 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, that is a problem, but it would be a bit of a headache to redo...
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