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Description "Religin is bad and it sucks! its responsible for all the worlds wars! if we got rid of religin, there would be no mar warz and thered be world piece! derp"


Even if we were to abolish and do away with religion, there would still be plenty for us to war and feud about. Take away religion and you'd still have greed, power struggles, corruption, and zealous bigotry, politics. Feuding and ambition is in human nature. Don't be naive, religion isn't solely to blame for wars. If you have this kind of thinking, you are part of the problem.

Intolerance, ignorance, bigotry, hatred.

Not to say, of course, that religion hasn't caused wars, just look at Jihad. All I'm saying is that religion isn't the root cause. Human nature is.


"im glade im not in their family, f'n loooneys"
-actual comment by a poster responding to a short news blurb about a family who chooses not to celebrate Halloween because of their religious beliefs. Because the only ones who are closed-minded, intolerant, hateful bigots are totally only the religious, amirite?


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Comments: 536

TFFII In reply to ??? [2014-02-25 06:50:03 +0000 UTC]

You don't have to say it. Your actions speak volumes. 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to ??? [2014-02-25 04:45:03 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, I know. Sadly, most people who are into religion are like this. Not all, but most. 

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BNZG In reply to ??? [2014-01-26 09:24:54 +0000 UTC]

People tend to forget war figures like Stalin exist and like in many of the past years, its mainly become territory and ethnic conflicts than anything else. Like you said, its in Human nature; people think way too highly of themselves if they think eradicating religion will bring about world peace.

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AgentBabycakes In reply to ??? [2014-01-14 18:44:25 +0000 UTC]

Could not agree more. People will find other things to fight about.

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OpinionsProfile In reply to ??? [2014-01-02 15:43:59 +0000 UTC]

I actually wrote something on this subject: opinionsprofile.deviantart.com…

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Panhead13 In reply to ??? [2013-12-03 03:26:49 +0000 UTC]

Well, according to HBO's resident atheistic vulture, Bill Maher, that's what this world needs. No Religion.


Then again, Bill Maher is a puffed up idiot. S.E. Cupp, an atheist, respects the need for religion.

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animedisneyluver809 In reply to Panhead13 [2013-12-19 04:11:54 +0000 UTC]

Religion will never fade as long as there are believers. Even if Christianity (my religion) was banned, i would still praise God and not give a single fuck who cares.

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Flare18 In reply to animedisneyluver809 [2014-06-05 16:58:33 +0000 UTC]

I agee with you.

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to animedisneyluver809 [2014-02-09 03:50:42 +0000 UTC]

Religion is fading every day. It'll never go away completely, but it is definitely becoming the minority. Logic over fairytales.

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KashaDude In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 17:07:17 +0000 UTC]

 You sure about that?

Most religions are either stable or growing with their numbers. The Islamic religion is becoming huge, with at least 2 billion people sharing the religion. And it's still growing.

 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to KashaDude [2014-02-28 20:42:28 +0000 UTC]

Er, no. Most religions, ESPECIALLY Christianity is declining. Just go to Google. 

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KashaDude In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 21:39:40 +0000 UTC]

I did.

And I looked.

Not what I saw, buddy. Albeit Christianity does seem to be decreasing, that's not the case for most other religions, it seems. Again, most major religions seem stable.

And even if religion does disappear, what does it matter? 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to KashaDude [2014-02-28 22:06:33 +0000 UTC]

You didn't look enough, buddy. 


Before, I wasn't even talking about religion outside of the US. I was talking about the major ones, including Christianity which ARE decreasing every year in number of people who believe. While there are some religions that are holding, they are decreasing as well still. Some faster than others, some not.


And I'm not saying religion will disappear. It won't. It will (and is getting this way) diminish so significantly that it is not the major thing in this world. And it matters, because religion is one of the biggest things that hurts humanity and slows it down. It's stupid, and pointless. It makes people blind sheep. That's why it matters. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 03:21:35 +0000 UTC]

Says who? The arrogant fucktard too mentally retarded to give evidence and make logical claims? 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 03:44:56 +0000 UTC]

Says statistics. Facts. Multiple articles. Look them up, cunt. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 03:46:04 +0000 UTC]

You've got the time to do do, shouldn't you have all this data within your reach? 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 04:41:41 +0000 UTC]

Aw, what happened? Did logic, reason, and the realization that you are a lazy idiot finally get to you?


Good. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 12:14:51 +0000 UTC]

No, I got tired of your arrogance and inability to debate. 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 12:24:17 +0000 UTC]

Nope, exactly what I said happened, happened. You questioned my facts, and I told you to do something that would literally take you ten fucking seconds, and would prove you wrong. But you won't do it because you're scared, lazy and a coward. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 12:50:52 +0000 UTC]

Biased sites will give me no reliable info. 

Biased information has no worth. 


So step up your game, do something intelligent, and actually attempt to have an intelligent debate. 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 20:41:21 +0000 UTC]

Your stupid fucking assumption is that they are Biased. They can't be biased when they give EXACT QUOTES FROM THE BIBLE. That's the problem with all you religious idiots, every site that you don't agree with seems to be biased.


Do something intelligent, and actually attempt to have an intelligent debate. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 20:55:17 +0000 UTC]

No, I would consider them if they analyzed it from a middle ground view. Acknowledging that they may be wrong or right. You cannot do that unfortunately. 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 22:08:13 +0000 UTC]

No you wouldn't. I just told you what to do to find a large number of articles, and you wrote ALL of them off as biased. You're a stupid fucktard. And in this case, I am not wrong. Your own stupid book tells you not to ignore ANY of the scripture. Do what I fucking said. Stop being a lazy moron, take 10 seconds of your life to copy and paste what I gave you into Google. You will get a large number of sites detailing what I have told you.


Stop being a stupid cunt. 

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 22:24:50 +0000 UTC]

I didn't even look at your articles. 


Are we debating, or not? 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 22:29:13 +0000 UTC]

 NO, because you won't even do the very fucking essence OF debating, which is looking at evidence! You stupid fucking moron. How many times do I have to spell it out for you?

I told you that your own book says not to ignore any of the scriptures. You said that wasn't true. I told you specifically where to go to find out for yourself which would take no time at all. You refuse to do so.

This is not a debate. This is you being a coward.

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Enemom In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-28 23:47:43 +0000 UTC]

This isn't a debate, just you being a coward as well. So, hey kettle! 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-03-01 01:19:03 +0000 UTC]

The only one being a coward is you, my friend. I have done nothing cowardly. You accused me of being wrong, I pointed you towards proof and YOU IGNORED IT.


You are the coward. Not to mention ignorant, a sheep, a hypocrite and an idiot.

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Enemom [2014-02-28 03:56:56 +0000 UTC]

I gave you a link and the exact thing you need to put in Google. YOU'RE ON THE FUCKING INTERNET. It'll take you no more than 10 seconds, and you'll get a multitude of sites that show you proof. The ONLY reason you're not doing this, is because you're too much of a coward. Too afraid to be proven wrong.


It's within YOUR reach too, fucktard. You got the time.

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-24 16:06:40 +0000 UTC]

In your world, it is.

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 00:40:11 +0000 UTC]

You're an idiot. Look up some statistics. It's a fact. More and more people are becoming non-religious every single day. Religion is becoming the minority. It's dying. And that's a good thing. So why don't you stop being a moron and pick up a book that isn't the hate filled Bible. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 02:48:17 +0000 UTC]

May I have soild proof from a non-biased website please, or are you gonna flame and act like a 5 year old? Because that's what you are doing

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 04:44:19 +0000 UTC]

How about you stop being a lazy fuck and do some research? And I suggest you learn what flaming is. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 04:56:16 +0000 UTC]

How is anyone going to take you seriously if you insult anyone who questions you? Oh wait no one has.


"Lazy fuck and do some research" 

This is about your logic being total bullshit. Lemme guess, what you said just came from you. You have nothing to back it up and asking for  this proof if what you're saying is true or not is making you insult me. Are you that insecure? So sad


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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 05:16:49 +0000 UTC]

Also, do you seriously expect me to give you articles? You want me to give you unbiased articles, but yet any article that I give you that shows undeniable proof of what I'm talking about you are going to automatically ignore once you find out it doesn't agree with you and you're going to call it biased. Anything and everyone that doesn't agree with you is automatically biased in your stupid head. That is how most religious minds work. You don't agree? BIASED. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 05:51:39 +0000 UTC]

You never GAVE me articles. Other than that it looks like more 5 yr old like bashing. Bash some more, you may get smarter!

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 05:55:20 +0000 UTC]

YES, I KNOW. I never said I did! 


And if you seriously think that I won't bash something that hurts humanity like religion does, you have another thing coming. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 06:08:32 +0000 UTC]

Religion is a thing not a person.

It's idiots like you who make people turn against each other and cause war

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 06:15:51 +0000 UTC]

"Religion is a thing not a person."


Not shit, Sherlock. It still hurts humanity, and I can still bash it if I want to. I suggest you try reading next time. 

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 05:06:22 +0000 UTC]

Don't be a lazy fucking idiot and you won't get called one. You are a prime example of what's wrong with religion and it's blind sheep. "Oh, there's contradictory evidence? I wonder if I should do some research...NAAAAH, I'll just continue living my life in ignorance, not really knowing anything about what I stupidly believe." 


That's you. That's idiocy. You go around, professing that there is a God, someone brings up actual facts and you ignore it, just like you do the entire Bible. You want others to do the work for you, and even if they fucking do, you take no notice because you want to remain willfully stupid. That is idiocy at its finest. 


Also, the fact that religion is declining especially Christianity isn't logic. It's a fact. It's just pure common sense. I have entire scientific articles to back me up, but you're too fucking lazy and willfully stupid to simply type a few letters and push enter in a browser. And you call ME insecure? LOL


There is a reason 95 percent of all scientists are atheists and agnostics, the former being the lesser. And there's also a reason you're not a scientist, and could never be one. XD

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 05:43:14 +0000 UTC]

Ok so you have no proof. I get it you can' stop making a fool of yourself now. 


Basically you wasted my time  with two replies (yes like that will make you win) of you bashing me and my religion, when I simply asked for proof from an article of your insanely high numbers,further proving you are living in your own little world. 

I highly recommend you look up the word "ignorance" because you are use nothing but that like it is your only tool to winning. NEWS FLASH! It never does. 

What your doing is simply "I'm an atheist  so everything I say= fact" 


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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 05:54:28 +0000 UTC]

I do have proof, you're just to idiotic to find it. 


Basically you wasted your own time. You have no fucking desire to look for the truth, to look for actual facts. You want to remain ignorant. You want to remain unaware of reality around you. And you stupidly complaining about me bashing you and your religion...Okay, if you don't want anyone to bash you or your religion, here are two things you can do:


1. Don't be a total idiot.

2. Don't believe in a retarded religion that's based on no facts, evidence or proof whatsoever.


Number 1 is probably an impossibility for you, but number 2 you can never achieve, as no religion in existence has ever had any facts, evidence or proof to back it up. 


And here's more proof of your idiocy: "I simply asked for proof from an article of your insanely high numbers". I never gave you any numbers for my initial statement, moron! I simply said that religion is fading  Where in there do you see some fucking numbers?  XD


I highly recommend that you take your own advice, look up the word ignorance, because you, and most everyone involved in religion is just that; ignorant. Case in point, I never said I was right about everything, nor have I ever claimed such. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 06:30:51 +0000 UTC]

Then SHOW me. You seem you be the lazy one here


Idiot

Ignorant


That's all you have  said.  You aren't even willing to look up those words. You just telling me to look  them up. I know what they mean, and unlike you, I know how you use them.

Are you basically telling me to STOP believing in God? 

Ok that's it. You are just scum of the earth. All you have done is spew bullshit and you can't back an ounce of it. When you try to, you go " you look it up". You think you can enlighten people like that? You wouldn't last 17 seconds in the real world. 

You wasted way too much of my time. Then again I think I am an idiot for trying to talk to a thick minded simpleton like yourself 

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TFFII In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 06:51:48 +0000 UTC]

Because you blocked me like a fucking coward, I have to use my alt account. You expect me to show you things, but it's really hard to do that when you resort to cowardice. 


LOL, a Christian calling someone lazy. XD


And if you weren't so ignorant, you'd realize I've said more than that. I've told you some facts, yet you can't even be bothered to check for yourself. It isn't about me giving you articles, it's about you lacking the balls to defy your own religion, to defy your own beliefs for a few moments so you can maybe realize that you might be wrong. But you have no balls. I have proven this. 


But here's the kicker. I don't NEED to back up what I say. I don't fucking have to. Know why? Because of the articles out there. They are all over the place. They exist, and they prove you wrong. I don't need to give you shit, because I'm not the one craving satisfaction here. YOU are the one with no proof. No evidence. No facts. And you can't stand to even think that may be a possibility. And yes. Stop believing in God. It's stupid. Retarded. Backwards. It's slows down humanity, and causes it more harm than good. If you seriously believe that an invisibly skydaddy created everything with magic, then you are seriously fucking ill and need to get looked at. And the facts are, you know nothing about your own religion. It's sad, but us atheists know more about religion than the religious. That says a tremendous amount, and should make you fucking think. But it doesn't, because you are a blind sheep.


And I wouldn't last in the real world? I've sadly been living in it for 24 years and have been doing quite well to be honest. But that has no bearing on this conversation. You should be very concerned, because here you are, believing magic created the universe, believing that there was a great flood, and believing that somehow killing your own son is supposed to accomplish anything for humanity, yet you are calling me a thick minded simpleton. 


Get a clue, idiot. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TFFII [2014-02-25 07:26:30 +0000 UTC]

Lovely, shoving your believes down my throat flaming harder and saying that you are right and there is proof. All you have said you my every word is put in short "I don't need you show you anything, you look for it" 

That shit is not in my browse history. Shut the fuck up about me being lazy and show me these "true" articles that you have at your disposal. Oh wait, these don't fucking exist.  

I blocked you because you are fucking hopeless, so much so, you deny words of their meaning just to fucking make a point against me. They are still called fucking theories even if there is a slim chance it is not true. Most scientists thought certain things were unachievable throughout history just to have 1 or 2 find out how to achieve it. 

And really you blatantly tell me what to believe in. I'm guess you have been alone all your life. 

Again you are just useless to humanity.

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TFFIII In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-26 00:08:36 +0000 UTC]

I'm not shoving anything down your throat, idiot. I'm simply telling it like it is, and if you don't care to hear it, then I don't give a fuck. I am right, and there is proof. Tons of it. But you fail to do any research for yourself because you are a lazy fuck. There is tons of evidence and facts to back up the decline of religion, hell, even so that many religious people know it! But you, you're a different case. You are one special breed of retard. I don't need to show you anything. It is up to YOU to find out for yourself. It's YOUR religion, and if someone says something like it's declining that should make YOU concerned, and YOU should find out for yourself. But apparently, like spelling and grammar you just don't give a fuck about your own religion. Shows how much you care about the actual facts. 


And no, I will not shut the fuck up about you being lazy, because you are a PRIME example of a lazy fucking retard. 


And the only reason you blocked me, and then blocked me again is because you are a coward who can't handle the truth. That's it. I have not denied any words, you have. You stated that theories can not be facts, and I PROVED to you otherwise, and then you started agreeing with me because you realized that you were an idiot! 


Also, no retard, no. I never told you what I believed in. I only every expressed the facts and what I do NOT believe in. Learn to read. And I suggest you stop doing guesswork, as I'm not alone. I have a pretty good life. 


P.S. You don't get to block me like a coward. You are not going to win this conversation. I will not let you. The only way you can stop this conversation, is if you stop talking. 

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TFFIII In reply to Dan-Habiki [2014-02-25 23:58:16 +0000 UTC]

I'm not shoving them down your throat, moron. I'm telling you to stop believing in nonsense, and if you don't? Well I don't give a fuck. And I am right, there is proof about religion in decline. Fuck, even a good majority of the religious know it! It's time for you to stop being a moron. 


And no, you've thus far basically ignored everything I've ever said. Laziness at its finest. Do your own research. I'm not an atheist for no fucking reason, idiot. Neither are the MILLIONS of others. Those articles exist, and the fact that you're saying they don't without even fucking bothering to find out for yourself is extremely fucking pathetic, and I pity you. 


You blocked me because you are a coward, that is the only reason. The only person denying the meaning of words is you. You pointed out how a theory doesn't mean fact, and when I showed you that it did you turned around and agreed with me because you looked like an idiot! Theories can be facts! 


And I've never told you what I believe. I've only told you what I don't believe, and what the facts are. You are just useless to humanity if you can't really fucking do any research at all and stop expecting others to do it for you. 


P.S. You are not going to continue to speak and block me like a coward. I will not, and never will let that happen. If you want to be so fucking pathetic then stop fucking talking. That is the only way this conversation is going to end. You don't get to continue your idiocy. 

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Dan-Habiki In reply to TFFIII [2014-02-26 00:19:11 +0000 UTC]

Lol what. I did stop talking and I blocked you. You are still carrying on and crying like a fucking baby. You are a total rock. I really don't give a fucking rats ass bout what you believe. Yet you care  about what I believe in so you make 3 fucking accounts. What a loser you are.


Right now you show that you know none of the words or phases that have been used. 

You can't do shit to me. I recommend you go outside. It will help you understand the real world that you have missed for 24 years.

I wish you good luck.

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TheFreebornFanatic In reply to TheFreebornFanatic [2014-02-25 05:07:35 +0000 UTC]

Ooooh, spelling mistakes. Better take note of that before the religious people try and stupidly use that against me, as if that matters or justifies their ancient and nonsensical belief whatsoever. XD

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StrengthLovePower In reply to animedisneyluver809 [2014-01-02 09:44:33 +0000 UTC]

Agreed +1

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Panhead13 In reply to animedisneyluver809 [2013-12-19 13:49:46 +0000 UTC]

Their argument? It's primitive.

But then again, so is eating.

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