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Looks like a gorilla on steroids. A knuckle-dragging Silverback.
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I think that is just exactly what they were going for.
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Thanks for your comment! You're absolutely right. A lot of people commonly refer to it as "the gorilla walker." And that's no accident or coincidence. As I understand it, the designers took their inspiration for this vehicle directly from gorillas. They did this as a way of making a clear departure from the classic AT-AT walker design introduced in the Empire Strikes Back (while still keeping the general aesthetic and many of the design cues from the original.)
FYI, the ridges (cable slashers) along the fronts of the legs were included on the AT-M6 to suggest that the Empire/First Order had learned from their failures at the Battle of Hoth, and had designed this new vehicle to be able to deal with cable/tripping attacks. While I don't think the AT-M6's were utilized particularly well in the movie, I do think that overall it is a pretty cool and successful design that pays appropriate homage to the AT-AT while stretching the design in some interesting new directions.
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I can't be the only one who looks at that and sees' a Gorilla.
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Did you scale this to the Rebels AT-AT? That's even bigger than the standard AT-AT! i.redd.it/2x983y9ucfvz.png
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Yes, I did! As you said, the Rebels walker is larger than the ESB walker, although there seems to be some debate about exactly how much larger. Some sources suggest that it is only slightly larger than the ESB walker, while other sources, (like the picture that you linked) suggest that it's quite a bit larger.
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The source I provided was made by me a while ago. The Star Wars website posted an image of the AT-AT scaled next to the AT-DP walker, which we already have a height for. With some rough measurements, I determined that the height for the new walker is about 26.75 meters. Again though those are rough measurements.
By the way, is there anywhere I can download that model? The AT-AT from Rebels gets so little love. There's like no fan art or anything, it doesn't even have a name. This one looks amazing though. Maybe I can like 3D print it or something. It's cool if you don't want to share it though.
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Yeah, I'm with you! I really like the classic Empire Strikes Back AT-AT, but I LOVE the Rebels AT-AT. I love the wrap-around cockpit windows, and that neat tail turret, among other things. It's the coolest! So that's why I created all these images.
I'm not sharing 3D models at this time. Like most of my models, this one is set up for rendering, not 3D printing, so it wouldn't really work well for that anyway. Sorry, . . . and thanks for understanding.
Hey, thanks so much for your interest, and for all of your nice comments! Please be sure to check back in with my art and comment again some time!
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Yeah, it's way bigger! Early stills from the movie show the new walkers marching into battle side-by-side with the old Imperial-style AT-AT's. That scene should be a very effective way to communicate to viewers just how big these new behemoths are. Additionally, it seems to suggest that the First Order still has access to old Imperial-era equipment, which they still evidently employ in the field. Either that, or maybe they are manufacturing new AT-AT's based on older Imperial designs. I guess we'll have to watch and find out. Hopefully they'll explain the details of all this either in the movie itself, or perhaps in support materials such as the cross-sections books, etc.
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And I notice that the First Order made the same mistake that the Empire made with the AT-AT Mark II (the Battle of Hoth era ATs): no back/rear mounted anti-air weapons to defend against airspeeder and starfighter attack runs. The Empire made that mistake by replacing the AT-AT Mark I (ie the Rebels series ATs) and seems the FO is repeating the same mistakes.
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Yeah, you make a great point! If I were going to spend a bazillion credits constructing a behemoth walking war machine, I think I'd put a couple turrets on it to fire to the rear, to the sides, and especially down below, (where presumably most of the enemy will be.) I also think it would be cool if they included some scenes showing tank-troopers (of some sort) inside these turrets, looking out and blasting away at the approaching Resistance fighters. They might be reminiscent of tank/gunner scenes from WWII movies, or maybe like B-17 bomber gunners. Of course, those turrets could all be automated, but showing gunners might be more interesting.
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Especially when you see how poorly the AT-AT armour withstands Starfighter laser canon fire in the Star Wars comics by Dark Horse Comics and with the AT-ACTs at Scarif. In the Dark Horse X-Wing comics, it showed AT-ATs being blown up from X-Wing laser fire, and in the first Dark Empire comic series, a AT-AT was taken down by fire from one of the Millennium Falcon's two Quad laser cannons.
Look how quickly the AT-ACTs were taken out once Blue Squadrons X-Wings and U-Wing arrived in the air of Scarif. Sure, their armour could shrug off the personal arms fire and the shoulder-fired missile fire, (and probably could of withstood anti-vehicle/armour laser fire from ground mounted weapons emplacements like those used by the Rebels at Hoth Base) but they were taken down in minutes by Blue Squadron. While the Rogue One Ultimate Visual Guide does specifically state that the AT-ACT were not meant for direct combat and assault as they were primary cargo-hauling walkers, it also states that their armour was heavier and thicker then regular AT-AT armour so to protect the cargo carried in them, so it should of held up better then standard AT-AT armour. Yet three were taken out by the X-Wings themselves and the fourth was taken down by the U-Wing's side-door pivot-mounted heavy ion blaster.
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You've made your points very effectively and persuasively! All of the examples that you point out are very strange in light of Luke's comment, "That armor's too strong for blasters!"
It seems like the fact that walkers were originally created with blaster-proof armor was just really inconvenient to writers of subsequently created comic-books, video games, and Rogue One, so they sort of cheated it.
I've always felt that the solution to this problem (that would maintain better consistency) was to have the heroes (in the comics, video-games, and Rogue One) fire proton torpedoes at the walkers. Proton torpedo hits shook the Death Star, so it seems like they are more powerful than blasters. So it makes sense that torpedoes might be effective against "blaster-proof" Imperial walker armor. With this approach, Star Wars writers could maintain the impressive claim of walkers as being "blaster-proof" but then give the heroes (in the comics, video games, and Rogue One) a way to take them out using a readily available weapons system, (a weapon that coincidentally was not available on Luke's snowspeeder, but is available on the Millennium Falcon, X-Wings, Y-Wings, and most other starfighters.) So maybe we can just pretend that this is exactly what happened, but that the comics, video games, and Rogue One just inaccurately depicted those scenes. They mistakenly showed blasters working against walkers when these ships were actually firing torpedoes.
Another apparent technical inconsistency in Star Wars is the fact that new First Order TIE fighters are supposed to have shields. And yet in one awesome scene in The Force Awakens" Poe Dameron blasts 10 TIE fighters out of the sky in about 20 seconds. Each TIE seems to instantly go up in smoke. So do TIE's have shields, or not? I suppose we might say that they have weak shields, or maybe all 10 of the TIE's that Poe blasts had already had their shields knocked down to very, very low levels. But it just seems to me that if you're going to go to all the trouble of telling the world that TIE fighters have changed, (They have shields now!) Then you shouldn't be including scenes that seem to fly directly in the face of that claim. Anyway, the scene of Poe blasting 10 TIE's was admittedly AWESOME, so maybe it doesn't matter that much, but it always sticks in my craw just a little bit.
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