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[I edited the text a bit since, there where small misunderstandings about what the pic is about]Sorry for coming up with this again, but I am a bit confused.
Not really want to offend anyone, just quickly did something that came into my mind lately. Sad part is, that I really don't see the point why I have to repeat myself over and over again, because there are a few Hellsing fans who only think they know this two characters better than their own creator, Kouta Hirano.
My fancomic supports the original manga, and Hirano's work, his characters with their personality. In the manga, nothing romantical is happening between these two, and neither will in my fancomic. Even Hirano confirmed that their relationship is not romantical, and now I'm reaching my point ->
There is no problem about writing fanfics and pictures about these two getting together. If you like it, do it! Fanfictions are about that. I am not a big Anti-SerasxAlucard, there are fanfictions that I really like. But it's not canon, and I hate when a rabid fan starts to harass me about it, that it's canon and it's happening, and I'm not a real fan if I don't see it.
I've read the manga like 500 times, watched every OVA like 100 times. I think I understand the characters, their personalities and the meaning of their presence in the story enough to tell, that there is ABSOLUTLY NOTHING SEXUAL between the Master and his fledgling. I'm a hellsing fan, and not a fan of a made up pairing. But that doesn't make me the enemy of that pairing, there can be amazing, lovely, nice stories made of these two, BUT don't tell me that you are 100% sure that this is going to happen, because it's fanfiction, and every fan has his right to belive what they think is going to happen.
If you want me to respect your viewpoint, you also have to respect mine. It's nothing bad being an AxS fan. But please accept it that it is not more than a fanpairing. I have enough of it that some crazy bastards try to disfigure every scene in Hellsing where these two are talking to each other.
*sigh*
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I really don't mind seeing AxS supporters, but few disrespectful people are making me Anti-AxS. I am beginning to hate myself as I am starting to dislike a whole group just because of few, small egoistical morons. Sigh...
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Yes, I know the feeling. Don't be upset 
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Hehe if anything it was probably a shabby rundown cheap coffin Integra ether bought/Alucard stole/ or got 'borrowed' from the local cemetery just before Seras got nailed into it. (So wish they had shown that bit in the OVA, it would have been hilarious.)
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Yes, I was really upset, that it wasn't shown in the OVA
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As a huge Alucard/Seras fan, may I just say - bravo! I hate it when scary AxS shippers start giving the rest of the supporters a bad name... heck, I get annoyed when any shippers in the Hellsing fandom do this.
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Thank you very much! Yes, those guys can get pretty annoying sometimes 
Thank you again!
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I love such rabid fans for one reason only. They make grand trolling material, specially when you bash on their fav couples
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Hahaha! I never thought like that! XD
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lol I just always thought he was teasing her about sex and she went into the coffin and he nailed it shut and she fell asleep in it on the ride over XD
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LOL 
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No problem 
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hello, can i ask when hirano confermed that these two relationship was not romantic? please tell me?
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Hello, of course I will answer your question, but only if you belive me that I'm not up to destroy you pairing. I'm here with honest intentions as a Hellsing fan and a fan of Hirano.
Now, to answer you question. There was an interview made with him in 2006, where he was questioned about the relationships between Alucard and Seras. In this interview he said that the relationship between them "is complicated, since many things mix together".
He was asked about theories like master/servant or father/daughter. Weird part is that during the interview he both disclaims and reinforces both these theories at the same time. Which is confusing but understandable. He probably don't want to upset any side of the fans. Hirano answer "There is no way we could tell how they feel about their relationship, maybe it's comeradry, because of being the same kind. On Seras' point of view, Alucard is a master, a teacher." He also said that there can be some kind of feeling of love, but that can be also something more closer, like the ties of familyship.
So that's it, he described their relationship as "complicated", which isn't actually romantical. In the other hand, there was an other interview where he stated the relationship between Integra and Alucard as "master and servant, and twisted/sick love" (depends on transalation). Of course that is not romantical either, since this "sick love" is only based on Alucard's fanatical respect towards Integra. To think about it that Alucard's respect and Integra's trust towards her servant was enough to consider this pair as "sick love", and at the same time the situation between Seras and Alucard wasn't even considered that way, just simply "complicated" explains that Hirano approves IxA but don't really care much about SxA, which doesn't mean he is against it, it just means that is not the way he wanted to make it look like in the manga. So, even if there is something between them that is at most "platonic" just like the relationship of Integra and Alucard. Neither SxA or IxA is actually happening in the manga, nor in the OVA. That is the canon explanation.
Strickly my opinion here :If it would be anything more than teacher/ apprentice;father/daughter; master/fledgeling, I belive he would have stated it, I'm sure of that. Whoa... you made me write.
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hi
thank you for answering my question friend.
but i will be honest when i say that i think its his coffin ^^ i'm the one who actualy started the seras in alucard's coffin subbliminl message. with my youtube video ^^ just look it up XD. but again, thank you for answering my question...maybe the reason no parings are actualy cannon is because hirano wants the audiance to use thier imagination? thats probably why there are so many fan arts and fanfictions XD what do you think?
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I glad, you see it this way. It's true, time first time I've seen Hellsing I became obsessed with it, and I just realized once that I start to image total side stories. Of course I always had a wild imagination, when I don't like something in a movie, or a book, I always started to wonder how I would've ended it. But Hirano and the way he paints the story like a ballad, I was able to learn how to built up a character. Many things remain obscure, it doesn't matter if we don't know many things about the character, all it matters is the way they act while they are on the screen. At first I thought that the relationship between Seras and Alucard is more... emotional. I actually drawed some AxS fanarts. But when I've read the manga to the end, I saw Seras more like a daughter character. I mean... Alucard came back after 30 years and what was the first thing to do? Go to Integra. And when Seras came in Alucard just said angrily "you are noisy as always" :rolf: Like an angry daddy whos private time has been disturbed by the annoying child. Besides that, I don't think Alucard deserves Seras if she is only the second girl in his life. But of course like you said, we can see these characters different ways. It is possible that Alucard visited Integra first just out of respect.
About the coffin, the situation is two sided, if we look at the color. It is not perfectly Seras' nor Alucard's coffin. It is miscolored. I only did this poster because, when I pointed out to this (that it's not perfectly Alucard's coffing because of the edge, and the brown coffing can be easily changed by a "nightcolor" layer on the film) someone started to fight with me about it, and told me that is 100% sure that this is Alucard's coffin because of..blahblah. No, in the manga it's clearly Seras' coffin.
Like I said: okay, maybe it is, but it's NOT 100%. The right to belive it is present. I just don't like when some people try to force their opinion down on my throat. I glad you are not one of them!
Thanks for the great comment!
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your welcome ^^
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Totally agree with this they have more of a father/daughter relationship(i loved when he patted her on the head i kept replaying that scene). Besides anyone who has read Dracula would know that Alucard is not capable of feeling love.
IxA shippers are just as bad if not worse I really can't see where people get romance from hellsing. Romance in horror stories is very distracting, horror with no romance are usually the best stories.
Man i hate the extreme fantards in any fanbase they just like shove their views down people throats.
70in plasma TV derp
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My OC will be very sad to read this since i made a fanfic that has romance
*shoots self* but not the mushy type
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If you like writing fanfics then go ahead write that fanfic
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Having a bit romance in a story is not bad. 
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HAHA!!
Nah, if you want to know , you can check my Hellsing Fanfic in my own fanficiton profile
The link is in my Journal if you like
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Okay 
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I hope you will like them
Please tell me your opinion about it
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Well, maybe the Dracula in Bram's can't feel love.
But I would not say that Alucard can't, because he could not have a father/daughter relationship then.
A father loves his daughter, too ^^.
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well... it can also be all sick and twisted father-daughter relationship. if you know what i mean... :]
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True but we mostly mean the romance type of love lol
Love for a family memeber and love for companionship are two different types of love
you don't love your mother like you love your boyfriend/girlfriend XD
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Hirano disclaimed both romantic; father/daughter and master/servant descriptions and and stated their relationship as "complicated". Maybe that's the reason why. There are no fix statements about it, we just try to figure it out.
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Exactly. These fans don't really analize the personality of these characters or actually are brainwashed by romantic-horror movies...
Ha! Do i see a *TFS* reference?
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i blame the media for this vampire romance cliche nonsense
lol yeah that *TFS* ref was random
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true words
SxA fans often say that Integra never loved Alucard. But Seras doesn't love him either.
Poor Seras... After I saw OVA 7 I didn't like sexual pictures with Seras. (Well, I never liked them)
*+fav*
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Exactly! Thank you so much! I glad that we have something in common
Neither do I. Never liked it when they picture her like a that.
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I'm glad too
I actually never like it when picures are like that. I mean, it says Deviantart and not Deviantporn.
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LoL! I understand the problem perfectly
Thank you for the devwatch!
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you are welcome ^^
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Everyone knows Pip's been the only one inside of Seras if you get the pun XD
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It took me looking at that pic five times to get the point, LOL. I agree, their relationship is not romantic. Speaking in terms of canon, I can't think of ANY Hellsing characters that have a truly romantic relationship (Save pip/seras post mortem...)
I can only think of a handful of characters having even one-sided romantic (or lustful) intentions for that matter... (Schrodinger towards seras springs to mind, but that is definitely unrequited in her end.)
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Thanks because Hellsing is based on action and horror. Horror novels are the best when they barely have anything romantic in them. I guess Hirano wanted to create that style in the manga!
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Totally agreed, just ignore those overly blind fans v.v....
I mean, I can see how they misunderstood that as a subliminal message, but they should take a look at the manga ... and they will se both coffins in the hotel room ~.~.
Plus, she is sleeping in HER OWN coffin.
=> [link]
Seras could not survive that trip without her OWN coffin and no ''blabla but her master's coffin has his powers blabla'', that doesn't count ... maybe if she would have been born in Romania, too, but she isn't @_@ .
Also, he is so ''in love XD'' with his coffin, do they really think he would share it with her ?
She was rather upset that they have forced her into a coffin, so I do not think he would have wanted a raging fledgling in his precious coffing 
By the way, IF Alu would have been sexual / romantical interested in Seras, I bet he would have shown it and made his point CLEAR, since Pip is also interested in her and we all know how obsessed he was of Mina.
And, if I recall right, he LOVED Mina ... and he DID make his point clear.
So far, I never saw that in the manga with Seras, though we did see the obsession scene with Mina or rather the defeat scene of him vs. Abraham, where Abraham is telling him that she (Mina) does not belong to him.
Some fans are just too blind to see or do not want to see, that they made a few mistakes in the OVA's ... like in the Abraham scene, were Alu is wearing his sealed gloves (which he didn't in the manga), etc..
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Yes it's rather unlogical wearing a glove with "hellsing" on it, before he was captured.
According to the novel of Bram Stoker, it's true. Seras needed the soil of her own birthplace. Also Did you noticed, that we can actually never see him sleeping in his coffin? I think Alucard's coffin it's not empty. In the novel he could only travel and stay strong if he had some of his motherland's soil with himself. I think the coffin is filled with earth from Transylvania.
Besides that, the point of Bram Stoker horror novel is to paint Dracula as a monster. A Monster without the ability to feel anything human, since he is dead... inside and out. Dracula didn't loved Mina. He just wanted her from instinct, like a dog wants a chew toy. After Dracula would have captured Mina, she wouldn't mean more to him than the other 3 draculinas, brides or daughters whoever we belive what they were, that is not stated in the book.
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Hmmm, well I do not really think he needs to actually sleep in his coffin, but you could be right about the soil.
Anyhow, it is a long time ago since I went into Bram Stoker's, though I think he do love Mina, because he looked like his dead wife or ?
Correct me if I am wrong here, but as far as I know he wanted her because of that and well, he loved his wife (again, if I remember right).
Though, everybody can have their own opinion ^^.
But picturing Alu loves or sexually wants Seras is a bit too much.
By the way, in Hellsing he does show humanish traits, otherwise he would not feel pride or sadness (like with Seras in the last published OVA or when Anderson died).
Well, but that is the Hellsing Dracula of course.
I think he likes to picture himself as a monster, to hide his shattered (human) self, because he is ashamed that he gave away his life just because he was too afraid/proud/embittered to die.
....
Though, long story short : They are wrong about the subliminal message, but let them live their fantasy dreams and just try to ignore them.
If they can't accept the truth or another opinion, so be it =/.
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Whoops, I did some typos .... actually I meant SHE looked like his dead wife XD ...
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Well... no, nothing like that is in the book. And Hirano used the story of the book as the base of the manga and the personality of Alucard. That "Mina looks like his dead wife" is only a made up element of some Dracula remake movies like the one made in 1992. This movie is called "Bram Stoker's Dracula" but Dracula's motives are totally rewritten, it has barely to do anything with the Dracula from the book. They turned the horror novel into a horror-tragic-romance thing...
By the way, even in the book he shows some pride, sadness and anger. But never love. Not any kind of it
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