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Description Abortion is not birth control. It is an invasive medical procedure that becomes even more invasive as the pregnancy progresses. The descriptions of what both fetus and mother experience, especially in later term pregnancies, can be disturbing for many people.

The truth is that most women who have an abortion don't want to have one. It's hardly a desirable experience. And obviously anyone who empathises with the fetus doesn't want abortions. So, what's the solution?

Most abortions are done because of unwanted pregnancies. Therefore, reducing unwanted pregnancies will reduce abortions.

Unfortunately, some people who are anti-sex have unintentionally increased the number of unwanted pregnancies and abortions by restricting sex education and birth control. They believe that education and contraception encourage sex and that is what leads to unwanted pregnancies. However, the human sex drive is what leads to sex, not knowing about sex or using birth control. Someone can know nothing about sex and still desire it because it is part of our instincts.

The irony is that many people who are agaisnt abortion are responsible for abortions. While some people like to focus on rape, it's quite rare and most unwanted pregnancies are a result of consentual sex, as is the case with abortions. So, parents who demand schools don't teach about safe sex, businesses who refuse to allow their employees birth control, and the Catholic church's stance against contraception, have all continued to abortion. In these cases, they are not truly pro-life, but simply anti-sex.

Even if abortion were outlawed, some women would still find a way to have an abortion, but it would be dangerous or even deadly to her. If your reaction to this is that she deserved to die because she was going to have an abortion, you are not pro-life. Likewise, there would be an increase in unwanted children, an already epidemic problem and, if you feel that is acceptable, you are also not pro-life.

Unwanted pregnancies must first and foremost be reduced to reduce abortion before all else. This can be tackled multifold:

Learning Self Control:

Our society tends to place a burden on females to protect their virginity and learn to keep males from having sex with them. All males are expected to do is listen when she says no and put on a condom if she insists. This one-sided approach demonizes females with a sex drive as "sluts" and "whores" while encouraging males to simply find a way to trick females into sex. However, males must also learn self control and females must no longer be demonized for not being male.

While testosterone means that males tend to be more sexually aggressive on average and most rapists are male, it's not all biology. From an early age, boys are expected to be rough and cruel and sensitive boys are teased until they conform.

But males must be taught how to control sexual urges and this must start right at puberty, when the male sex drive is at its highest and self control at its lowest. This can be two tiered, both with a psychological approach and a biological approach, since some people have higher sex drives and so dietary changes can be made to make it easier to manage.

We should never place the entire burden of avoiding pregnancy on one sex because it takes two to become pregnant. This is basic biology.

Learning About Sex:

Self control is important, even for those who do have sex, as someone may inadvertently hurt their partner or have sex with them against their will. Date rape and even spouse rape is a real phenomena and should be prevented through education.

Imagine you care about the millions upon millions of children already born and in need of homes. Not becoming pregnant means you are more likely to be able to adopt and open your home to those children.

So, let's say you are either not ready for a family or are ready but wish to adopt. You may still desire the intimacy of sex with your partner or spouse. This is where learning about birth control and safe sex come into play.

Rushing into sex unprepared can lead to one partner not enjoying it or even being hurt or can result in an unwanted pregnancy. So, before anyone actually comes to the point where they are going to have sex, we must educate them about sex, both what it would be like for them as well as for their partner, and the preparations and potential consequences. The more taboo and off-limits we make sex, the more exciting it sounds. The more straight-forward and realistic we are, the more it can be understood and the safer we make it.

MakingΒ Birth Control Available:

Sex, when done right, can be a beautiful bonding experience that, biologically speaking, is primarily for uniting parents and creating a child between them. However, this world is already over-populated and filled with orphans. With birth control, couples do not need to spend their entire lives avoiding sex just to avoid pregnancy.

There are several methods, ranging from one-time approaches like condoms and oral contraception, to more permanent methods like tube tying or sterilization. The problem is that all of these cost money and the cheaper the method the less effective it is.

It's no coincidence that people with lower income on average have children sooner and in greater numbers than those wirh higher income. Not only does a higher income mean easier access to effective birth control but also not giving birth early and having to raise a child ensures that they keep high income. Whereas, being poor means not affording overlapping effective birth control and so becoming pregnant and either having an abortion or giving birth to more children and at a younger age. This means they will have to work more, have no time for a higher education and are stuck in poverty, typically for life. This poverty is also often passed on to those children.

Therefore, to prevent this, we must make effective overlappingΒ contraceptive methods available to anyone free of charge, possibly by a universal healthcare method. This must of course be coupled with proper sex education which includes methods of mutual self control as a primary focus. Contraception by itself without such education would be short sighted. In fact, education in itself is part of birth control.

Some people complain about poor people having access to safe effective birth control, saying it places a financial burden on society. However, contraception is vastly cheaper than the social and financial burden of unwanted children, not even considering all the resulting abortions it prevents. Besides, such complaints are not pro-life or logically sound, but based on fear and contempt. Fear of sex and animosity toward others is powerful, but in the end no better than promoting casual unprotected sex.

Only through these and other methods can we all work together, whether pro-life or pro-choice, to reduce unwanted pregnancies and thereby reduce both unwanted children and abortions.

What are some methods you would add?

Also of note: US Abortion Rate Hits Lowest Lovel Since 1973, Primarily Due To Increased Birth Control Access

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Comments: 70

Rogue-Ranger In reply to ??? [2018-12-16 11:21:27 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome! Yes, preventing painful and heavy periods is another good use for birth control, thank you!

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StarryEyedPolitician In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-12-16 18:38:33 +0000 UTC]

^^

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tultsi93 [2017-12-30 08:31:31 +0000 UTC]

I hate how pro-choicers think pro-lifers "oppose birth control", just because they find abortion immoral.

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StarryEyedPolitician In reply to tultsi93 [2018-11-23 03:18:55 +0000 UTC]

Thank you, I'm pro-life and I'm on the pill.

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to tultsi93 [2018-01-03 23:31:45 +0000 UTC]

It turns out they think that because there are actually some people who identify as pro-life who are against birth control. In fact, that's still the Catholic church's official stance, to be pro-life but against birth control. So, it's important to spread the message that we don't all believe that.

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RensKnight In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-07 03:54:04 +0000 UTC]

I definitely support birth control.Β  I am very uncomfortable, however, with IVF, because of the "leftovers" that get destroyed in most cases (though I have heard of occasional success in unfreezing one and their being carried to term even years later).

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to RensKnight [2018-08-13 09:19:44 +0000 UTC]

I am personally agaisnt IVF and would rather the couple adopt a child rather than go to such lengths as to try to fertilize a bunch of eggs and create the unnecessary risk of ending up with too many fetuses and either having too many children to care for or aborting them. While I've also heard of successful unfreezing too, I just feel there are so many children right now who need homes that adoption just makes so much more sense.

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RensKnight In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-08-13 18:08:58 +0000 UTC]

My parents almost adopted...then they conceived me naturally right as they were about to give up. But yeah, you have pretty much summed up why I don’t like IVF.

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tultsi93 In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2018-01-17 13:16:12 +0000 UTC]

The Pope is a moron.

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to tultsi93 [2018-01-26 07:06:36 +0000 UTC]

There are things I disagree with him on, but I don't think the pope is a moron, as he doesn't really come off as dumb. People all have different opinions and sometimes something has been repeated to someone all their life to the point it's very difficult to question it. I've found people often don't question things until they have to, be it because of life challenges, a moral dilemma, radical life change, or some other event or circumstance.

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NeversideFaerie [2017-11-29 22:49:55 +0000 UTC]

You're so right that self-control is the best way to stop abortions, by preventing them in the first place. That's what I think too.

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to NeversideFaerie [2017-12-13 07:24:49 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! Sorry for the late reply.

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LiquidSquidz [2017-05-14 14:57:14 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! Use birth control and you won't get unborn babies killed. It's that simple, really.

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to LiquidSquidz [2017-09-16 22:18:35 +0000 UTC]

*fetus

Not an "unborn baby"

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to LiquidSquidz [2017-05-16 06:58:40 +0000 UTC]

Since most abortions are performed because of unwanted pregnancies and birth control reduces unwanted pregnancies, that's exactly right.

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2017-09-16 22:17:50 +0000 UTC]

Except in cases of rape and incest when that isn't wanted.

Then there's also the fact other people, namely pro-lifers, shouldn't be telling people how to have sex or when. If someone doesn't want to or doesn't like using condoms, abortion should be accessible to them. Im against late term except in emergencies of course and I'm not saying someone should wait until the end of their second trimester to abort unless they have to, but policing how and when people have sex is idiotic and offensive. To "save" a fetus which, as my signifigant other put rather plain and simple, doesn't feel pain or anything until much later than the pro life agenda would make people think.

The argument of "life starts at conception" is as factless and ignorant as saying a pinecone is a grown fir sapling. Or that a egg is a bird.

So telling people they "should only have unprotected sex if they want a baby" is stupid all the same.

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Lukacabra [2017-03-23 12:25:44 +0000 UTC]

I'm not entirely sure you understand what "pro-life" is. From reading this you're for reducing the need for abortion, not banning it entirely or denying women the right to abort, if that's correct then that is indeed "pro-choice." The pro-life movement is a movement aimed at banning abortion completely, which takes "choice" out of the equation, forcing women to go through pregnancy no matter their circumstance, not to mention that would also be removing a medical procedure that can in fact save lives. So yeah I really hope you just lack understanding on this subject, I can't respect a pro-lifer.

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-06 14:33:16 +0000 UTC]

We only want to ban abortion if the mother's pregnant from consensual sex and not in any danger.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-06 22:04:11 +0000 UTC]

That's still fucking idiotic. You can't force someone to become a parent, that is a huge responsibility and could literally ruin someone's lives. You people only care about the damn fetus, sorry but no I'll never respect that.

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-07 13:08:40 +0000 UTC]

Nobody's forcing anyone to become a parent, if somebody doesn't want their baby there's no reason they can't give it up for adoption.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-07 13:49:27 +0000 UTC]

Still forcing them through the birthing process and pregnacy, not to mention the adoption system is aweful, yeah let's overcrowd it with more unwanted kids, sounds great -.-

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-07 14:05:30 +0000 UTC]

Still better than getting murdered.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-07 22:56:33 +0000 UTC]

Lol abortion isn't murder, sure the fetus is human, but it isn't a person yet, not to mention the pro-life propaganda that they can feel pain and such is false and moronic; the proper neuro pathways don't form until week 28, so those videos showing a fetus writhing in pain as its aborted is garbage. Sorry but; grown woman > fetus. No exceptions.Β 

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-08 17:07:01 +0000 UTC]

They feel pain long before that point, and the majority of pro-choicers I've argued with claim the deadline should be earlier than that. You're upping the ante.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-09 10:02:03 +0000 UTC]

Probably because they think once it has a spine and a brain at 8 weeks it feels pain. Which isn't true because even though the systems are there they've not yet made the proper connection. Also fyi you're arguing with someone who majored in biology but to be fair I wouldn't even care if it did feel pain mother > fetus. Probably the only exception Id make to that is she CHOSE to put it before herself. Β 

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-09 13:12:54 +0000 UTC]

If you don't care about the fetus feeling pain, then you're a sick bastard and I don't want anything to do with you.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-10 00:52:35 +0000 UTC]

Good, you'll find I don't want anything to do with pro-lifers like you either

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-11 13:57:06 +0000 UTC]

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-12 08:39:30 +0000 UTC]

lol nah.

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LadyLambdadelta In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-12 13:24:33 +0000 UTC]

You're a sick twisted fucker, do the world a favour and jump off a cliff.

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-16 22:08:26 +0000 UTC]

Oh and uh, don't tell my boyfriend to kill himself because you're a salty emotionally unstable little bitch, kay hon? Where i'm standing he's nore worthy to be around than you are, espexially with your god awful behaviour and attitude ;^)

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-16 16:41:42 +0000 UTC]

Stop denying fact for your pro life shit. You dont help your cause what so ever, in fact any logical person who does rely on hardened solid fact and proof would tell you the same. Sorry but your fantasy isn't reality, so stop making up facts.

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-16 16:37:33 +0000 UTC]

Says the one telling anothwr person to kill themselves. You have serious. Serious issues kid.

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Lukacabra In reply to LadyLambdadelta [2017-09-12 13:47:58 +0000 UTC]

Haha no thanks, my life is pretty fucking amazing right now, I wouldn't wanna cut it short

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to Lukacabra [2017-09-16 22:10:10 +0000 UTC]

Damn right baby. I said my piece to the little cunt. I dunno who she thinks she is saying that shit to you but it doesn't fly with me.

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to Lukacabra [2017-03-23 12:37:56 +0000 UTC]

I realize many people use the term pro-life in a very specific context and suddenly become indifferent to life once abortion isn't an issue and the child is born, but can you really not respect someone because they are pro-life? I don't identify with a cause or group, but consider my views personal. I'd just like people who are pro-life to consider the big picture, that valuing life doesn't have to mean hating sex or contraception. To me, life matters and so, yes, I'd like fewer abortions, but I'm realistic about the approach and I count women as part of that life I support. To me, it makes sense, but then everyone thinks a little differently.

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Lukacabra In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2017-03-23 13:08:01 +0000 UTC]

Then Id suggest using a term that doesn't associate you with that cause/group, and yes I can, I don't respect anyone who infringes on the rights of others let alone campaigns for others rights to be removed, I see pro-lifers as scum no better than anti-LGBT, racists or sexists- in fact actual pro-lifers are technically sexist as their movement goes against a woman's right to body autonomy. No pro-choicers would argue that fewer abortions would be ideal; we simply state the fact that abortion is a procedure that needs to be kept legal and safe, and that woman should have the right to choose to go though with a pregnancy or not; pregnancy shouldn't be made into some sick punishment.Β 

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StarryEyedPolitician In reply to Lukacabra [2018-11-23 03:23:23 +0000 UTC]

I'm a pro-life woman

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Lukacabra In reply to StarryEyedPolitician [2018-11-23 05:47:47 +0000 UTC]

Guess what? I couldn't give less of a fuck.

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StarryEyedPolitician In reply to Lukacabra [2018-11-23 15:44:14 +0000 UTC]

Yeah well no one gives a fuck about you, if you hate pro-lifers so much just go you don't have to be here.

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Lukacabra In reply to StarryEyedPolitician [2018-11-23 23:39:23 +0000 UTC]

Look at the date of my comments. The debate is long since over, I said my piece and have since moved on. You have commented purely to try and be antagonistic, you are the one that brought me back here. So how 'bout you take your own advice, huh?

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to Lukacabra [2017-03-24 06:18:53 +0000 UTC]

I'll try to consider another term. I chose pro-life because I value all life, the woman and the fetus, animals, am against the war and the death penalty, etc. You know, life in general. But I definitely agree that pregnancy shouldn't be punishment. Thank you for your feedback.

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Lukacabra In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2017-03-24 10:17:38 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I can understand that- in fact pro-life is a rather unfitting name for the movement since they do completely disregard the mothers life. Another term would be good, probably an overall term for like you said; valuing all life, not just focusing on the abortion debate. No problem.

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Graeystone [2017-01-16 17:40:07 +0000 UTC]

Even if abortion were outlawed, some women would still find a way to have an abortion, but it would be dangerous or even deadly to her.

Even legal, 'back ally abortions' still happen. Oh, and if a person can't afford a $10-$12 box of condoms, then having sex shouldn't be their first priority!

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TheCaptainsMate In reply to Graeystone [2017-09-16 22:21:05 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. But typically someone would want a safe accessible abortion, those only happen in places where abortion is restricted or in individual cases where the pregnant person faces ostracization from fsmily and such because of radical pro life shit.

Newsflash. You don't tell someone how and when to have sex. You don't govern their lives and have no place doing so.

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to Graeystone [2017-01-17 00:13:41 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for making that point about back ally abortions still happening, as it shows just that unwanted pregnancies are the primary and persistent problem. And, yes, ideally people shouldn't make having sex their first priority, especially when the cheaper the contraception the less effective it is and our society seems to feel only rich people should be allowed to have sex or eat healthy or educate their children. Unfortunately, we don't live in an ideal world, so no potential ways to reduce unwanted pregnancies should be overlooked in my opinion. The significantly higher abortion and birth rate among the poor is not a problem to tackle halfheartedly, as most people do because society blames people for being poor and believes they should be punished.

Your comment made me realize something I left out, which was that contraception needs education that includes self control with it. I had thought that the order and flow would make it obvious, but it wasn't, so thank you for your comment. I've modified it to be more clear. After all, just as I say sex education needs self control, contraception needs that education.

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Graeystone In reply to Rogue-Ranger [2017-09-18 14:39:49 +0000 UTC]

But typically someone would want a safe accessible abortion

As someone who has gone under the knife three times - There is no such thing as a '100% safe procedure'. Even an operation that has 99.9% success rate still has a 00.1% chance of failure. And in an operation, that failure can greatly screw up a person's life. This nonsense about abortion being 100% safe and harmless is just plain BS. No matter how 'safe' PP can make their places there will still be a failure rate.

When it comes to my comment about affording condoms,Β I grew up 'working poor' and my parents drilled into my teenage thick skull that getting a teenage girl pregnant is one of the worst things to do especially when I wouldn't have been able to properly provide for a family.

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LotusFelix [2017-01-15 05:11:02 +0000 UTC]

I'm not pro-life but I suppose I understand why people are.Β 

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Rogue-Ranger In reply to LotusFelix [2017-01-15 12:37:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for being understanding. A lot of times the issue of abortion can be very divisive, but I think there's room for common ground when it comes to reducing unwanted pregnancies.

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gdpr-19335497 [2017-01-15 00:01:56 +0000 UTC]

I've NEVER once encountered a pro-lifer who wants to ban birth control.

No, we just want you to pay for the shit yourself.

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