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The Red Army's march through Poland destroyed the nascent Polish state utterly. Though the Polish attempted a heroic defense in the Battle of Warsaw, Soviet forces triumphed and pushed west. The Soviets attempted to spread the revolution to Germany, but were stopped by an impromptu coalition between German and Entente forces. The new alliance pushed the Soviets back to the pre-war border between Russia and Germany, and it was on these borders that a ceasefire was set. The Soviets succeeded in maintaining a communist state in Hungary, but everywhere else they were contained.Instead, the Soviets turned their efforts to other parts of the world. The Middle East was swept up by socialist revolutions, and when the Republic of China collapsed, the People's Republic of China emerged, with the Japanese taking a few bits and pieces along the way. Europe turned inward and fearful of the Soviet menace, even losing a series of small wars against Japan and independence movements out of fear that overt commitment to these conflicts would give an opening to the USSR. Meanwhile, Britain and America turned inward, focusing on their own affairs and leaving the rest of the world behind.
By 1975, the primary conflict is between the European Security Council and the International Soviet. The ESC has been radicalized by decades of red scares and the losses of colonial empires, and is dominated by fascist politics. The Fascists of Italy were the first, followed by Action FranΓ§aise in France and the NSDAP in Germany. Though all of these parties planned a great crusade against Bolshevism, the rivalry between the parties let no common plan come to fruition before the first Soviet nuclear test. Now, the ESC is united and has abandoned internal rivalries, instead pursuing their nationalisms internally.
The International Soviet remains under Soviet domination. Under the leadership of Leon Trotsky, the Soviets pursued a policy of spreading communism worldwide, with the Soviets themselves as the "global revolutionary vanguard." The Soviets' greatest achievements are India and China, both anti-democratic communist states within the Soviet model, but these powers are starting to grow stronger. Moscow may lose control of them soon, especially as India liberalizes and China discovers the ideas of one Joseph Stalin, a Soviet exile who wrote very critical pieces on the Trotsky regime from Madrid.
The British and Americans remain isolationist. Being powerful capitalist democracies separated from conflict zones by bodies of water, both states have pursued this policy to some success. The British Empire continues even after the loss of India, which gave the British the idea of granting more self-rule to some of its remaining colonies and giving independence (under friendly regimes) to others. Indeed, the British have pursued a policy of setting up friendly regimes in a post-colonial world to counter the Soviets, even if MI6 needs to terminate a few bad eggs. The Americans have stayed in the New World, exempting conflicts with Japan over the Philippines prior to that country's independence.
The Japanese Empire is starting to crumble. Though the militarism and the Japanese supremacy has died down, the GEACPS is still overwhelmingly pro-Japanese to little benefit from everyone else. The warnings of neo-colonialism rings hollow when Japanese trade with the British and Americans is at an all-time high. The Japanese are turning to pan-Asianism and anti-communism to save them, and with China and India backing communist factions in the Japanese sphere, this tactic is becoming more credible by the day.
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Comments: 38
Whiteshore1 [2016-10-15 03:20:33 +0000 UTC]
Is Manchuria some sort of "Qing Empire" which claims the entirety of the PRC, which returns the favor?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-10-15 03:47:47 +0000 UTC]
No, but the PRC does claim Manchuria.
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InfernoMole In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-15 12:11:57 +0000 UTC]
OK. Now give me a serious answer.
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RvBOMally In reply to InfernoMole [2016-08-15 13:56:49 +0000 UTC]
Madagascar was colonized IOTL. I don't see any reason to change this.
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InfernoMole In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-15 14:04:54 +0000 UTC]
Madagascar also had a considerably developed pre-colonial kingdom IOTL, which also tried attempts at modernization and had pretty good resources for doing so, namely chromite, coal, iron, cobalt, copper, nickel, natural gas and oil, and large sapphire reserves. Your answer is like drawing a modern map with a still-colonized Morocco and saying "Morocco was colonized IOTL. I don't see any reason to change this".
As you may have noticed, I'm a bit of a Kingdom of Merina fan.
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RvBOMally In reply to InfernoMole [2016-08-15 14:09:52 +0000 UTC]
They may be developed, but they didn't have machine guns. The Europeans, in this case, do, and they often do in my maps. A modern colonized Morocco would have to sidestep decolonization. Your analogy doesn't work.Β
Yeah, I noticed. I'm not.Β
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InfernoMole In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-15 14:45:48 +0000 UTC]
A modern colonized Madagascar would also have to sidestep decolonization. I know.
I know this too.
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RvBOMally In reply to InfernoMole [2016-08-15 16:08:26 +0000 UTC]
I tend to slow down decolonization for some maps. This also has French Algeria.
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InfernoMole In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-15 17:22:46 +0000 UTC]
I know, but Algeria, Morocco and Tunisia had a large number of Frenchmen (Pied-Noirs) and Algeria was considered part of the metropole. As far as I know, Madagascar didn't have a large French population and was not considered part of the metropole.
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Whiteshore1 [2016-02-25 03:28:26 +0000 UTC]
1. Did Uncle Joe meet his end at the hands of an ice-axe wielding assassin or did he die of natural causes?
2. Is Apartheid or something like that policy in South Africa?
3. What is the liberalization of India like? Is it PRC-esque economic reforms or is it closer to Destalinization?
4. How horrible are the French? Are they closer to the Nazis or the Italians in terms of nastiness?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-02-25 03:49:07 +0000 UTC]
1. Shot.
2. Yes.
3. PRC.
4. Not as bad as either.Β
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Eheucaius17 [2015-04-09 22:10:48 +0000 UTC]
I'm surprised that the USA and GB are doing so well. Usually the US turns into some sort of far right jesusland and the UK becomes an American puppet or something. Who is president pin this universe right now? Did segregation ever end in this TL, or is it still going on for some reason? Also, what about the Arab oil embargo? Does that still happen in this TL, especially considering Iran, Iraq and Syria are communist states?
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RvBOMally In reply to Eheucaius17 [2015-04-11 01:29:50 +0000 UTC]
The president of the United States is someone who never existed IOTL.Β
Segregation ended in the 1960s.Β
The OTL Arab oil embargo never happened.Β
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TwisterAce [2014-07-14 21:52:18 +0000 UTC]
Did the Holocaust still occur in this timeline? And have fascist France and Italy conducted any similar killings?
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RvBOMally In reply to TwisterAce [2014-07-15 05:43:45 +0000 UTC]
No, although there has been mass persecution and ghettoization of "undesirables." With the ESC counting on Anglo-American backing in case of a Soviet invasion, the fascist regimes are wary about conducting something on the scale of the Final Solution.Β
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Void-Wolf [2014-07-14 14:15:53 +0000 UTC]
So, this is interesting. Not sure what is the different outside that the US and Britain don't seem to do much regarding here... and that the US didn't make its alliance with Japan. Another map-sterpiece well done
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RvBOMally In reply to Void-Wolf [2014-07-15 05:42:33 +0000 UTC]
Thanks. The Americans and Japanese are, in this era, natural rivals for the East, given their conflicting interests over China. Remember, it was the Japanese that brought the US into WWII IOTL.
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Void-Wolf In reply to RvBOMally [2014-07-16 05:16:15 +0000 UTC]
True. How sad though. It means no manga or anime for the U.S... *sadface*
But I love how your maps encourage me to research on some of these events.
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RvBOMally In reply to Void-Wolf [2014-07-16 12:45:41 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad to be an inspiration for further research.
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PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-07-14 13:30:51 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, I don't think I would want to live in this world if the Germans follow what I think they do. And that's dispite the stronger looking/seeming British Empire/Commonwealth
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AnataraKentara In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-07-14 18:00:04 +0000 UTC]
The divergence seems to be the first Polish-Soviet war, since apparently UK and France didn't declare war on Germany.
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PersephoneEosopoulou In reply to AnataraKentara [2014-07-14 18:26:22 +0000 UTC]
I know that but NSDAP ruling Germany was mentioned and that is/was the Nazi party...
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RvBOMally In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-07-15 05:41:14 +0000 UTC]
TTL's Nazi Party has a slightly different history from ours, but it's still recognizably the Nazi Party.Β
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PersephoneEosopoulou In reply to RvBOMally [2014-07-15 05:43:05 +0000 UTC]
Any attempt at a final solution or did they just kick the Jews out ?. I figure Trotsky leading the USSR would have made the anti-Semitism even worse then OTL
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RvBOMally In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-07-15 08:42:56 +0000 UTC]
Mass pogroms and deportations to Britain and the US, but no labor or death camps.Β
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PersephoneEosopoulou In reply to RvBOMally [2014-07-15 10:26:08 +0000 UTC]
What's the Soviets policy regarding the Jews and such ?
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RvBOMally In reply to PersephoneEosopoulou [2014-07-15 10:37:38 +0000 UTC]
Officially, antisemitism is banned. But society is still discriminatory against them.
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hlovell [2014-07-14 12:56:38 +0000 UTC]
I bet the Soviets might just be more than a little pissed at the Japanese over Sakhalin.
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RvBOMally In reply to hlovell [2014-07-14 12:58:17 +0000 UTC]
Oh, certainly. But for most of the time, the West was the greater threat and was seen as more susceptible to communist revolution.Β
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hlovell In reply to RvBOMally [2014-07-14 13:56:49 +0000 UTC]
Gotcha.
What's the scoop on Uganda?
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RvBOMally In reply to hlovell [2014-07-15 05:41:51 +0000 UTC]
Under a local strongman who mentions a good thing about socialism every once in a while to get Soviet guns to maintain his regime.Β
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hlovell In reply to RvBOMally [2014-07-15 18:56:32 +0000 UTC]
Gotcha. Though I was wondering why it's split up into 4 different states.
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meloa789 [2014-07-14 09:51:29 +0000 UTC]
Is China more cooperative with USSR than in the OTL?
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RvBOMally In reply to meloa789 [2014-07-14 10:00:29 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but that is starting to change.Β
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