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Something that's been sitting on the to do list, and I figured it would be good to get some brainstorming going. WW1.5 goes for the 2014 = 1914 route, but Mr.J suggests in these two posts that the early 21st century is more like the 18th century. So, in the spirit of WW1.5, let's take that to its (il)logical conclusion and see what the world is like two hundred years in the future, their analogue of the early 20th century. Unfortunately, this will be my only map for a while, since I've run through my backlog of completed work.---
The 21st century saw a shift of global power back to the East. After a series of economic crises and unwinnable wars in the Middle East and North Africa, the United States retreated from world affairs; the giant went back to sleep, its society becoming more insular. The European Union, which once showed such promise for progress, stagnated and weakened during the latter half of the 21st century and through most of the 22nd. Throughout the West, a pseudo-Luddite sentiment arose, seeing technological progress as destabilizing to society and ultimately unnecessary for the maintenance of Western dominance. Western space programs shriveled up and disappeared, even as an Eastern space race began.
Meanwhile. the East rose. India and China competed for new markets in Africa and the Middle East, while colonizing near-Earth orbit, the Moon, and beyond. Dynamic new technology transformed the Eastern economies. Increased automation, seen as a threat in the West, increased living standards in the East and allowed the Eastern powers to outproduce its competitors. The East did have its share of violence. The first offworld war, the Lunar War, was fought between India and China in the 2050s. Luna declared independence from India in 2076, and the Chinese Revolution of 2089 shook the world, bringing almost the entire world into 25 years of war and destroying the Russian Federation.
The new ideology of technocracy and its war with the old republics would define the 22nd century. In 2130, the People's Republic of China was replaced once again by a technocratic government. Elements of technocracy became part of the Indian government, which became fearful of technocratic revolution within its own borders. Technocracies became the most popular form of government offworld and in the newly independent states, such as the former Russian Federation. New colonial empires were built in the outer Solar System, primarily by India, China and Japan. The South American Union became a new threat to the East, as it was seen as and presented itself as a force of old-fashioned republicanism. The West continued its decline. Europe became the "Sick Man of Terra," and the United States not only suffered from a major civil war, but was also humiliated in wars against China and India where it was no match for the Eastern powers.
But what transformed the 22nd century, and defines the 23rd, is the rise of the Arab Union. The Arabs were always disunited, despite sharing a common language, and Arab lands were always a battleground for more powerful empires. This all changed when the Union of Arab States arose in former Saudi Arabia and began a long campaign to unify all of the Arabs. This was challenged by the other great powers, but they could do little as the Arabs outmaneuvered them and even used them to forge a greater union. Although a republic, the UAS is informed by modernism, and is behind only India as the premier technological power in the Solar System. The rise of a united Arab people has shifted the Solar System's alliance system, into one centered on the Arabs and one dedicated to containing them.
The Shanghai Pact is made up of traditionally rival states which have little in common except for their mutual fear of the UAS. The Indians are the most powerful member, as they are the greatest empire on the planet. Though their holdings on Earth are comparatively paltry, the Indians rule the stars, owning about a quarter of off-world territory. They still retain many colonies on the Moon, and have used Mars as a giant prison until recently. The Indian Star Fleet is the most powerful in the world, and can attack any point in the Solar System. Though a republic, India is rather modern and open to technocratic ideas. The Chinese, once India's rival and once the most powerful on a planetary scale, has been knocked down a few pegs after the Sino-Arab War of 2170. They desire vengeance against the Arabs, particularly for several asteroid colonies the Arabs took after China's defeat. The Chinese are no longer a radically technocratic state, but they are a strange ally for the South American Union. This relatively backwards, anti-technocratic power was a rival to both China and India in the recent past. However, the diplomatic bungling of the recent Arab president has pushed South America into the Sino-Indian fold. Though backwards, the South Americans still have a massive military that must be contended with.
Not to be outdone, the Arabs have formed their own alliance: the Terran Alliance. This alliance is dominated by the Arabs, who are the dominant planetary power nowadays. They too are a republican union, but a somewhat liberal one, and their orbital buildups are what has led India to see them as a premier opponent. Although 21st century futurists always imagined a caliphate, and the Islamic State did survive for quite a bit as an example, the UAS is a secular state with many religious groups living in relative peace within its borders. Aligned with the Arabs is the West African Republic, an old, shaky federation of many different ethnicities that all despise one another. Their suzerainty over Gabon is rather shaky. The Arabs' other allies are the Eastasians. A union descended from ASEAN, the Union of Eastasia seeks to emulate the other successful unions, despite the country's lack of automation. Militarily, the Eastasians are seen as useless, but they did defeat the West Africans in some orbital conflicts.
Then there are the other powers. The old United States has finally been overthrown, replaced with the new American Technocracy in 2211. This technocracy is having a lot of trouble keeping its house in order, and between the warlords, Easterners, and the Mexicans, things aren't looking too good. Meanwhile, Mexico has embraced modernity, at least technologically, and under their new emperor is seeking to expand all throughout the Americas. They've already defeated the Americans in several wars, and their defeat of the South American Union in 2305 proved to the world that they are a great power. The EU is still considered a great power, but has lost a great deal of territory, and has become an Arabian satellite state thanks to their dependence on the Arab economy. And on the Moon, the Technocratic States of Luna looks down on Earth and sees a chaotic world it wants nothing to do with. Being the most powerful economy in the Solar System, it sees no reason to involve itself in any petty wars.
The 23rd century has seen many innovations. Fusion has become the energy source of choice, leading to quite a few helium-3 booms on the Moon. Self-sustaining colonies are present all throughout the Inner Solar System, and some have even been established on the Jovian moons. Man has stepped foot on Titan and Triton (both were Indian missions), and plans for helium-3 fueling in the Jovian moons are underway. Orbital railguns orbit the planet, watching out for asteroids, space debris, or intentional attack from orbit (and of course, to rain death down in case of war). Automation has revolutionized everything: most careers are in managing or repairing machines, and management can be done through direct neural interface. Some rudimentary AIs exist, many passing the Turing test, but apart from some supercomputers none can match, let alone exceed, a human. Most militaries are automated too, with armies and fleets of machines ready to bring death to their enemies as soon as the order is given. And with the recent assassination of the West African vice president in Libreville, they may get their chance to fight in a system-wide conflict.
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Comments: 122
3892 [2021-02-28 19:53:02 +0000 UTC]
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RebelOfGod In reply to 123456789JD [2018-10-23 13:54:46 +0000 UTC]
Well looks who's talking mr"jews can do nothing wrong" thinks that I "can't take a joke", just because I disagree with his views. Man up baby
Besides your excuse doesn't work, because that clearly wasn't a joke.
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RebelOfGod In reply to 123456789JD [2018-10-23 16:01:01 +0000 UTC]
Who's triggered, I'm literally lauging my ass off at your stupidity.
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RebelOfGod In reply to 123456789JD [2018-10-24 11:40:31 +0000 UTC]
Whatever my point still holds.
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RebelOfGod In reply to 123456789JD [2018-10-25 04:08:02 +0000 UTC]
Yeah says the guy who sucks jew cock. Keep on sucking.
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AltruisticHedonist [2017-03-21 20:25:44 +0000 UTC]
The amount of question-spamming in the comments is atrocious .
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InfernoMole [2017-02-12 09:12:47 +0000 UTC]
RvBomally?
What are those states between the Turkic Technocracy and Greater Nenetsia?
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qwertz89 [2017-02-08 05:38:21 +0000 UTC]
Does India consider itself a successor to the British Empire?
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Whiteshore1 [2016-08-07 11:29:02 +0000 UTC]
Do the political parties in Brazil do what the mega-corps tell them to do?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-08-08 00:15:07 +0000 UTC]
No, they're more populist.
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Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 01:49:48 +0000 UTC]
Wait a minute...I had a Flyover Republic in one of my maps too! Did you take that from my map? Don't misunderstand, I don't mind. Just curious.
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RvBOMally In reply to Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 01:56:53 +0000 UTC]
Yes, I took it from your map. It's a good idea, and I needed a Mongolia.
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Meerkat92 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-06 02:37:27 +0000 UTC]
God, that map was old enough to have gotten into an MOTF contest back in 2012. It's actually kind of embarrassing, considering that I was a flaming anarcho-capitalist when I wrote that. Kind of cool to see it living on beyond my cafeteria ideology-shopping, though.
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RvBOMally In reply to Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 02:51:51 +0000 UTC]
Heh, I was a rather ardent ancap at around that time, too.
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RvBOMally In reply to Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 04:13:40 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, the undercurrent of anti-statist thought is prevalent throughout my work. I just never made ancap front and center because that sort of preachiness in fiction really turns me off.
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Meerkat92 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-06 05:10:53 +0000 UTC]
Broad sorts of anti-statism get respect from me, even if I don't advocate it too strongly. I still think ancap stuff might work, but only in a very stable, homogeneous, high-IQ culture. So basically nowhere
Incidentally, the self-righteous preachiness of ancapism is what turned me off. Whenever I tried to talk to someone it seemed like we'd always just end up going around in circles about the evils of taxation or whatever. It got boring. Eventually I grew up a little and got a real job, and realized that the problem was with me instead of the rest of the human species. Still, a certain amount of skepticism towards the state is just common sense.
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RvBOMally In reply to Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 05:19:06 +0000 UTC]
I've always been skeptical of ancap, as I am of all ideologies, since humans have a way of fucking those up and creating some horrible autocracy. Which is another theme you'll see in my work. Ancap is something that I think works on a philosophical level, which is another way of saying I don't think it will work in practice. Too many bad apples. At this point, I see the state as a necessary evil, emphasis on both necessary and evil.
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Meerkat92 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-08-06 05:31:33 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I agree. That comment wasn't even taking into account the borderline-sociopathic "let them eat GDP growth" ideology that always seems to hitch itself to ancapism and related ideas.
I feel like that guy from The Producers--"WHO YA GOTTA FUCK TO GET A DECENT FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN THIS STINKIN' TOWN!?!"
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RvBOMally In reply to Meerkat92 [2016-08-06 17:31:05 +0000 UTC]
Callous disregard to human life tends to hitch itself onto any ideology, I have noticed. At some point, the ideas become more important than the people.
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Whiteshore1 [2016-04-27 11:22:56 +0000 UTC]
Will an American Academician have himself "elected" via credit cards with 5,000 rupees being given to Congressmen and bring the Norfolk Technocracy into disrepute?
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BagelBagelBagel [2016-04-14 17:37:56 +0000 UTC]
I assume San Fran is Hong Kong.
What's that white line mean in the American west?
Any indication where the future Taiwan is, which will serve as the remnant of the technocracy in the 2250s?
Also the prospect of the cold war being South America vs. the Moon is really cool. They're be a peaceful and economically powerful Mexico, South American rule of central america and much of West Africa, an anglo-hispanic split, and after the Moon wins there will be a Washington Monument massacre and a Terran Union centered around the Indian Ocean in the eastern hemisphere with it's capital in Seoul.
Hopefully even further on when efficient travel to other star systems is pioneered the Moon and the Terran Union won't lag behind, otherwise come 2500 other planets including Earth's western hemisphere will be dividing it into spheres of influence and it'll be turtles all the way down.
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RvBOMally In reply to BagelBagelBagel [2016-04-14 18:44:40 +0000 UTC]
Yes.
Deseret's claimed territory.
Future Taiwan may be Hawaii.
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metalheadjohn [2016-03-11 16:59:22 +0000 UTC]
great. now i am going to imagine the Martians from war of the worlds with Australian accents
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InfernoMole In reply to metalheadjohn [2016-04-14 21:12:19 +0000 UTC]
"G'day, cobber! We're thinking to move from Deimos, but those ugly frog Earthmen are pretty much everywhere on Alkmenos! Seriously, they make me angry! I hate them."
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InfernoMole In reply to metalheadjohn [2016-11-04 09:41:14 +0000 UTC]
You're wrong.
I assume that the large state to the north of Turkestan is Brazil.
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Whiteshore1 [2016-02-25 03:22:55 +0000 UTC]
1. Was the Eastasian taking of the EU's only off-world colony analogous to the Italian-Ottoman war of 1911?
2. Is Ukraine the Portugal to Russia's Spain?
3. What do you think of the fact I made Aztec revival stuff analogous to Japanese Militarism/"Bushidoism"?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-02-25 03:47:35 +0000 UTC]
1. Yes.
2. I guess.
3. It's cool I guess.
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Whiteshore1 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-02-25 14:17:23 +0000 UTC]
Will Ukraine fight tooth and nail for their off-world colonies when they start demanding their independence and where is Ukraine's *Macao and *Goa then?
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Whiteshore1 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-02-26 13:59:23 +0000 UTC]
Is San Diego being white in the map a mistake or is it the Macao analogue (basically Ukraine's American enclave and a point of pride for many Ukrainians)? And what will be analogous to "Portugal is not small"? "Ukraine is not insignificant"?
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RvBOMally In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-02-26 19:10:06 +0000 UTC]
No. It's just an artifact of the Deseret outline.
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Whiteshore1 In reply to RvBOMally [2016-02-27 02:20:40 +0000 UTC]
What then is the analogue to "Portugal is not small"?
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InfernoMole In reply to Whiteshore1 [2016-04-14 21:16:37 +0000 UTC]
Probably some nationalist poster in Ukranian, saying "Ukraine is relevant!" and putting up a map of the meteors and chunks of planets they own, arguably making them as big as Earth.
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Whiteshore1 [2016-01-20 12:48:57 +0000 UTC]
Will Indian republicanism by the end of the 23rd century be essentially a joke with India being a technocracy with the trappings of a Republic?
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metalheadjohn [2016-01-14 22:40:01 +0000 UTC]
what are the different states on the moon called? (american state analogs)
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metalheadjohn In reply to RvBOMally [2016-01-15 19:57:53 +0000 UTC]
i didn't mean the names of the 50 different states, i just meant what they were called (I.E, sectors, provinces)
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